Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Suggestions for Merchandise

2011-09-14 Thread Gordon Joly
On 13/09/2011 22:14, Andrew Gray wrote:
 On 13 September 2011 13:58, Richard Symonds
 richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk  wrote:
 +1. I very much like this idea! Does anyone know who set that up/who was in
 charge of that idea?
 Commons has the PDFs here (which are bizarrely distorted by mediawiki,
 but there you go):

 http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia_Commons_Postcard.pdf
 http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia_Commons_Postkarte_(sw).pdf

 You can probably chase down the original details via the author (or
 just by asking WMDE directly)

If you download the PDF files (from Commons), they are not distorted. 
Must be in the inline reader...


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[Wikimediauk-l] Third Sector's Driving Donations Through Social Media Online Masterclasses

2011-09-14 Thread Gordon Joly

FYI

Gordo

***

Dear Gordon,

So which charities have really increased donations through social media? And 
how did they go about it?

Join the hundreds of charity professionals already confirmed for Third Sector's 
Driving Donations Through Social Media Online Masterclasses to hear the secrets 
behind the most lucrative charity social media case studies of 2011, such as:

-   The Big March - Beatbullying - increased website traffic by 3000%
-   The Battle of Britain - RAF Benevolent Fund - doubled online donations
-   Baby Joey Appeal - Childs i Foundation - raised £10,000 on day 1
-   iPhone app - BackCare - was the most downloaded charity app

Plus more - view the full speaker list @www.donationsthroughsocialmedia.com

Driving Donations Through Social Media

Streamed live to your desk on 1st, 3rd and 8th November 2011

At a time when social media offers more potential to charities than ever, these 
masterclasses are designed to give you cost-effective access to information 
that will help your charity unlock the full donation-driving power of sites 
like Facebook, Twitter and YouTube. Full details of the masterclasses can be 
found atwww.donationsthroughsocialmedia.com

Sharon Williams, who attended last year said; the format was great and much 
easier than attending a physical event. Even though we were doing some stuff 
with social media before, the case studies gave me loads of ideas that are 
already generating demonstrably more funds for our charity.

I hope that you can take part. If you have any questions at all about what's 
involved, please feel to contact me on the details below.

Best Wishes,


Shreena Shah
Senior Content Executive
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Third Sector's Driving Donations Through Social Media Online Masterclasses

2011-09-14 Thread Chris Keating
We will be using our participation in the Wikimedia fundraiser to promote
our social media presence and vice versa, but I'm not sure training from
Third Sector is going to help. ;-)

Chris

On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 2:03 PM, Gordon Joly gordon.j...@pobox.com wrote:


 FYI

 Gordo

 ***

 Dear Gordon,

 So which charities have really increased donations through social media?
 And how did they go about it?

 Join the hundreds of charity professionals already confirmed for Third
 Sector's Driving Donations Through Social Media Online Masterclasses to hear
 the secrets behind the most lucrative charity social media case studies of
 2011, such as:

 -   The Big March - Beatbullying - increased website traffic by 3000%
 -   The Battle of Britain - RAF Benevolent Fund - doubled online
 donations
 -   Baby Joey Appeal - Childs i Foundation - raised £10,000 on day 1
 -   iPhone app - BackCare - was the most downloaded charity app

 Plus more - view the full speaker list @
 www.donationsthroughsocialmedia.com

 Driving Donations Through Social Media

 Streamed live to your desk on 1st, 3rd and 8th November 2011

 At a time when social media offers more potential to charities than ever,
 these masterclasses are designed to give you cost-effective access to
 information that will help your charity unlock the full donation-driving
 power of sites like Facebook, Twitter and YouTube. Full details of the
 masterclasses can be found atwww.donationsthroughsocialmedia.com

 Sharon Williams, who attended last year said; the format was great and
 much easier than attending a physical event. Even though we were doing some
 stuff with social media before, the case studies gave me loads of ideas that
 are already generating demonstrably more funds for our charity.

 I hope that you can take part. If you have any questions at all about
 what's involved, please feel to contact me on the details below.

 Best Wishes,


 Shreena Shah
 Senior Content Executive
 Third Sector Online Events
 Email:shreena.s...@haymarket.com
 Tel: 0208 267 4281







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[Wikimediauk-l] August report coming out tomorrow - has anything been missed?

2011-09-14 Thread Michael Peel
Hi all,

The draft Wikimedia UK report for August is on the wiki at:
http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Reports/2011/August

Please let me know if there's anything that's been missed out - the report will 
be sent around tomorrow.

Thanks,
Mike
P.S. the September report is in embryo form at 
http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Reports/2011/September - please add things that 
have happened/are happening this month to that rather than the August report. 
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] August report coming out tomorrow - has anything been missed?

2011-09-14 Thread Deryck Chan
I took the liberty to add myself onto the list of WMUK presenters at
Wikimania. I think James Forrester and Tom Morris belong to the list too,
having been on Ironholds' panel!
On Sep 14, 2011 10:32 PM, Michael Peel michael.p...@wikimedia.org.uk
wrote:
 Hi all,

 The draft Wikimedia UK report for August is on the wiki at:
 http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Reports/2011/August

 Please let me know if there's anything that's been missed out - the report
will be sent around tomorrow.

 Thanks,
 Mike
 P.S. the September report is in embryo form at
http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Reports/2011/September - please add things that
have happened/are happening this month to that rather than the August
report. :-)


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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Question: UK versus regional branding

2011-09-14 Thread Brian McNeil
On Tue, 2011-09-13 at 12:15 +0100, Thomas Dalton wrote:
 On 13 September 2011 09:22, Fae fae...@gmail.com wrote:

  Are there any views for or against using an image of Wikimedia in
  Scotland rather than just the WM-UK logo? My concern is that some
  will resist joining in a UK branded programme but would rush to
  support a country specific initiative. If it gets better results, we
  could follow a similar pattern for Wales and avoid appearing to push
  UK in every document (or teeshirt).

 Before signing the chapters agreement with the WMF, we were careful to
 amend it to include permission for us to call ourselves Wikimedia
 Scotland (etc.) in order to leave our options open for this kind of
 thing. You could, therefore, use a Wikimedia Scotland logo (with some
 small print making clear that both Wikimedia Scotland and Wikimedia UK
 are trading names of Wiki UK Ltd. on anything more important that a
 t-shirt).

 The downside of that is that it harms brand recognition, since neither
 brand is getting used as much as a single brand would be. The only
 question really is whether the benefit from appeasing Scottish
 nationalists outweighs the harm from splitting our brand. I don't know
 enough about Scottish nationalism to know, but I can believe that it
 would be.

A simple illustration of the view from this side of the border was
expressed in today's freebie paper, the Metro. Surprisingly, it's
near-identical to one I personally used over ten years ago when living
in Belgium:

Scottish first, European second, and British last. That, as I'd hope
people south of the border understand, is because to much of the rest of
the world Britain = England.

All three of the major UK political parties are looking seriously to, at
a minimum, devolve their Scottish presence and give it far more
autonomy. Further to that, a recent survey found that over 30% of the
population expect to see a truly independent Scotland in their lifetime.

Scottish national identity, and political awareness, has come a long,
long way since I was a student chucking past-their-sell-by-date duck
eggs at the Iron Lady.




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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Question: UK versus regional branding

2011-09-14 Thread Bod Notbod
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 7:59 PM, Brian McNeil
brian.mcn...@wikinewsie.org wrote:

 All three of the major UK political parties are looking seriously to, at
 a minimum, devolve their Scottish presence and give it far more
 autonomy.

The impression I got, in the case of the tories, was that the Scottish
tory MPs wanted to re-brand and distance themselves but their English
counterparts weren't keen on them splitting away. I'm not sure that's
looking to devolve.

But I guess this point is not particularly relevant to Wikimedia UK's
merchandising...

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] August report coming out tomorrow - has anything been missed?

2011-09-14 Thread Andy Mabbett
I've tweaked the wording on ARKive and added something on QRpedia.

On 14 September 2011 15:32, Michael Peel michael.p...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:
 Hi all,

 The draft Wikimedia UK report for August is on the wiki at:
 http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Reports/2011/August

 Please let me know if there's anything that's been missed out - the report 
 will be sent around tomorrow.

 Thanks,
 Mike
 P.S. the September report is in embryo form at 
 http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Reports/2011/September - please add things that 
 have happened/are happening this month to that rather than the August report. 
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[Wikimediauk-l] uk. or gb.

2011-09-14 Thread Andy Mabbett
The Scotland vs. UK debate has reminded me that we're using
uk.wikimedia.org which is, strictly speaking, the Ukrainian
sub-domain; and should be using gb.wikimedia.org

Is this something we should rectify sooner, rather than later,
choosing some pain now over more pain later?

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] uk. or gb.

2011-09-14 Thread Chris Keating
I don't see what gb.wikimedia.org has to do with anything, to be honest. We
are very definitely not Wikimedia Great Britain.

Ideally we would make greater use of wikimedia.org.uk but we have promoted
uk.wikimedia.org well enough that we should probably deflect
uk.wikimedia.org to wikimedia.org.uk when we make the move.

Chris

On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 10:40 PM, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.ukwrote:

 The Scotland vs. UK debate has reminded me that we're using
 uk.wikimedia.org which is, strictly speaking, the Ukrainian
 sub-domain; and should be using gb.wikimedia.org

 Is this something we should rectify sooner, rather than later,
 choosing some pain now over more pain later?

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] uk. or gb.

2011-09-14 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 14 September 2011 22:40, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:
 The Scotland vs. UK debate has reminded me that we're using
 uk.wikimedia.org which is, strictly speaking, the Ukrainian
 sub-domain; and should be using gb.wikimedia.org

 Is this something we should rectify sooner, rather than later,
 choosing some pain now over more pain later?

It is correct.

x.wikimedia.org subdomains use country codes (ISO 3166).
x.wikipedia.org subdomains use language codes (ISO 639). uk is the
language code for Ukrainian. In country codes, it is a recognised
alternative code for the UK [1].

We prefer uk to gb since it is actually an abbreviation for the
name of our country, rather than being an abbreviation for the name of
an island that makes up part of our country.

1. 
http://www.iso.org/iso/support/country_codes/iso_3166_code_lists/iso-3166-1_decoding_table.htm#UK

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Question: UK versus regional branding

2011-09-14 Thread Thomas Morton
Devolution is a good idea; though with care taken to make sure links are
strong and it is not seen as a division but as a recognition of you're
much better placed to organise this area of our outreach.

Wikimedia in Scotland is a great idea for focusing the brand.

There is no rule that says we have to use a single Wikimedia UK brand, and
in the current climate (especially in Scotland) companies are now quite
successfully leveraging a Scots targeted sub-brand. If this makes things
more palatable north of the border - lets do it :)

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] uk. or gb.

2011-09-14 Thread Richard Symonds
In answer to Andy's original question: I'd rather sort it out later, after
the fundraiser. There is quite enough on our collective plate at present,
and perhaps this should wait until after the CEO is in position and the
fundraiser is comfortably set up.

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Subject: [Wikimediauk-l] uk. or gb.

The Scotland vs. UK debate has reminded me that we're using
uk.wikimedia.org which is, strictly speaking, the Ukrainian
sub-domain; and should be using gb.wikimedia.org

Is this something we should rectify sooner, rather than later,
choosing some pain now over more pain later?

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] uk. or gb.

2011-09-14 Thread Thomas Dalton
On Sep 15, 2011 12:11 AM, Andrew West andrewcw...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 14 September 2011 22:50, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  x.wikimedia.org subdomains use country codes (ISO 3166).
  x.wikipedia.org subdomains use language codes (ISO 639). uk is the
  language code for Ukrainian. In country codes, it is a recognised
  alternative code for the UK [1].

 That's not quite true. uk has been exceptionally reserved at the
 request of the United Kingdom, as it is required in order to support
 a particular application, as specified by the requesting body and
 limited to such use; any further use of such code elements is subject
 to approval by the ISO 3166/MA.  Therefore it should not be used in
 applications of ISO 3166, and is not a recognised alternative code --
 gb is the only official country code for the United Kingdom.
 Nevertheless, the use of ISO 3166 country codes for wikimedia
 subdomains is just a wikimedia convention, and there is no law against
 us squatting on Ukraine's country code.

While you may be right that it isn't strictly accurate to call uk an
alternative country code for the UK, it is definitely incorrect to call it
Ukraine's country code. That is ua. uk is Ukrainian's language code, but
that it a completely different standard.
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] uk. or gb.

2011-09-14 Thread Thomas Dalton
On Sep 15, 2011 12:16 AM, Richard Symonds 
richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:

 In answer to Andy's original question: I'd rather sort it out later, after
 the fundraiser. There is quite enough on our collective plate at present,
 and perhaps this should wait until after the CEO is in position and the
 fundraiser is comfortably set up.

Please don't sort anything out. It's fine how it is. We are, and should be,
Wikimedia UK. It would be confusing for us to use gb for our subdomain.
Especially since our primary url uses the country top level domain, uk.
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] uk. or gb.

2011-09-14 Thread Andrew West
On 15 September 2011 00:37, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote:

 While you may be right that it isn't strictly accurate to call uk an
 alternative country code for the UK, it is definitely incorrect to call it
 Ukraine's country code. That is ua. uk is Ukrainian's language code, but
 that it a completely different standard.

Of course, thanks for pointing that out -- I must have confused myself
half way through writing that.

Andrew

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] August report coming out tomorrow - has anything been missed?

2011-09-14 Thread Deryck Chan
Wright Challenge finished this month, and therefore belongs to the September
report.
On Sep 15, 2011 4:52 AM, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:
 Also, shouldn't there be something about the results of the Wright
challenge?

 On 14 September 2011 21:38, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk
wrote:
 I've tweaked the wording on ARKive and added something on QRpedia.

 On 14 September 2011 15:32, Michael Peel michael.p...@wikimedia.org.uk
wrote:
 Hi all,

 The draft Wikimedia UK report for August is on the wiki at:
 http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Reports/2011/August

 Please let me know if there's anything that's been missed out - the
report will be sent around tomorrow.

 Thanks,
 Mike
 P.S. the September report is in embryo form at
http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Reports/2011/September - please add things that
have happened/are happening this month to that rather than the August
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