Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Urgent: Drinks with Sue Gardener, Garfield, Asaf & WMUK

2012-10-08 Thread Katie Chan
On 08/10/2012 16:40, rexx wrote: Asaf posted a message on the wiki a few days ago regarding his availability . Did you take up his offer? -- Experience is a good school but the fees are high. - Heinrich Heine

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Urgent: Drinks with Sue Gardener, Garfield, Asaf & WMUK

2012-10-08 Thread FT2
1/ I see. It's terrible that when you have a few hours unexpectedly spare to meet people, one might not use 6 of them travelling to Manchester and back to hold your (negative duration?) social just before waking up bright and early for the (very early) transatlantic flight from the same city where

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Urgent: Drinks with Sue Gardener, Garfield, Asaf & WMUK

2012-10-08 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 8 October 2012 17:15, rexx wrote: > I don't mind being criticised for many things, but a lack of psychic powers > is not one of them. I knew you were going to say that. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikimedia UK m

[Wikimediauk-l] September 2012 report

2012-10-08 Thread Stevie Benton
Hello everyone, Just a gentle reminder that if you have anything to add to the WMUK report for September 2012, please do so this week. I'll be sending the report out at the beginning of next week. You can find it at http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Reports/2012/September Many thanks, Stevie -- St

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Urgent: Drinks with Sue Gardener, Garfield, Asaf & WMUK

2012-10-08 Thread rexx
I think it's fairly symptomatic of the London-centricity of many people. What is relatively easy for those living in the City to do is probably a three-hour journey or more each way for those of us who live further afield and needs planning. I simply find it discourteous (sorry) to exclude us provi

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Urgent: Drinks with Sue Gardener, Garfield, Asaf & WMUK

2012-10-08 Thread FT2
That's a bit of a crappy line to take (sorry). "Sommone can't really care to meet people or it would have ben pre-arranged". Quite likely it wasn't expected there would be much chance at all to meet generally, a lot of things like this are last minute because of time constraints or because someth

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Urgent: Drinks with Sue Gardener, Garfield, Asaf & WMUK

2012-10-08 Thread Richard Symonds
I think she extended her trip by a day, after being here for Jimmy's wedding. Her flight is (very) early tomorrow morning! Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.11445

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Urgent: Drinks with Sue Gardener, Garfield, Asaf & WMUK

2012-10-08 Thread Chris Keating
> Sue Gardner, from the WMF, is in our office today, along with a few others > (Garfield and Asaf from the WMF). She's keen to meet UK Wikipedians for a > drink - is anyone available for drinks in the Old Street area of London > this afternoon/evening? If so, drop me an email directly! > > I'll be

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Urgent: Drinks with Sue Gardener, Garfield, Asaf & WMUK

2012-10-08 Thread rexx
If she were actually keen to meet UK Wikipedians, shouldn't she have given us a bit more than a couple of hours notice? -- Doug On 8 October 2012 15:52, Richard Symonds wrote: > All, > > Sue Gardner, from the WMF, is in our office today, along with a few others > (Garfield and Asaf from the WM

[Wikimediauk-l] Urgent: Drinks with Sue Gardener, Garfield, Asaf & WMUK

2012-10-08 Thread Richard Symonds
All, Sue Gardner, from the WMF, is in our office today, along with a few others (Garfield and Asaf from the WMF). She's keen to meet UK Wikipedians for a drink - is anyone available for drinks in the Old Street area of London this afternoon/evening? If so, drop me an email directly! Richard Symon

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Proposal of trustees collective responsibility

2012-10-08 Thread John Vandenberg
Was this resignation offer and decision minuted publicly? John Vandenberg. sent from Galaxy Note On Oct 8, 2012 6:22 PM, "James Farrar" wrote: > For their reasons, of course. A claim of protection implies a wilful act. > On Oct 8, 2012 12:15 PM, "Thomas Dalton" wrote: > >> On Oct 8, 2012 11:43

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Proposal of trustees collective responsibility

2012-10-08 Thread James Farrar
For their reasons, of course. A claim of protection implies a wilful act. On Oct 8, 2012 12:15 PM, "Thomas Dalton" wrote: > On Oct 8, 2012 11:43 AM, "James Farrar" wrote: > > > > Do *you* have any evidence for that? > > For their actions, or their reasons? Their actions are pretty clear to > any

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Proposal of trustees collective responsibility

2012-10-08 Thread Thomas Dalton
On Oct 8, 2012 11:43 AM, "James Farrar" wrote: > > Do *you* have any evidence for that? For their actions, or their reasons? Their actions are pretty clear to anyone that has been following the situations. I'm speculating about their reasons. ___ Wikime

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Proposal of trustees collective responsibility

2012-10-08 Thread Roger Bamkin
I am obviously unaware of the reasons why the board in camera rejected my offers of resignation. However I have confidence that it was rational rather than emotional. On 8 October 2012 11:43, James Farrar wrote: > Do *you* have any evidence for that? > On Oct 8, 2012 10:45 AM, "Thomas Dalton" w

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Proposal of trustees collective responsibility

2012-10-08 Thread James Farrar
Do *you* have any evidence for that? On Oct 8, 2012 10:45 AM, "Thomas Dalton" wrote: > It is clear that the board protected Roger. It is not clear that they did > so because of an overfamiliarity among the board. I think they probably > thought they were just being supportive colleagues. > On Oct

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Proposal of trustees collective responsibility

2012-10-08 Thread Gordon Joly
On 08/10/12 10:45, Thomas Dalton wrote: It is clear that the board protected Roger. It is not clear that they did so because of an overfamiliarity among the board. I think they probably thought they were just being supportive colleagues. Well put. Gordo _

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Proposal of trustees collective responsibility

2012-10-08 Thread Thomas Dalton
It is clear that the board protected Roger. It is not clear that they did so because of an overfamiliarity among the board. I think they probably thought they were just being supportive colleagues. On Oct 8, 2012 10:36 AM, "Gordon Joly" wrote: > On 08/10/12 10:35, David Gerard wrote: > >> On 8 Oc

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Proposal of trustees collective responsibility

2012-10-08 Thread Gordon Joly
On 08/10/12 10:39, David Gerard wrote: Yes indeed. However, this does not constitute substantiating evidence for your claim, as you have even quoted above. Do please try again. Sorry David. I will not try again. Many thanks for the offer. Gordo ___

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Proposal of trustees collective responsibility

2012-10-08 Thread David Gerard
On 8 October 2012 10:36, Gordon Joly wrote: > On 08/10/12 10:35, David Gerard wrote: >> On 8 October 2012 09:09, Andy Mabbett wrote: >>> On Oct 7, 2012 8:24 PM, "Gordon Joly" wrote: It seems clear that being friends allows a group to protect an individual, when that person (e.g.

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Proposal of trustees collective responsibility

2012-10-08 Thread Gordon Joly
On 08/10/12 10:35, David Gerard wrote: On 8 October 2012 09:09, Andy Mabbett wrote: On Oct 7, 2012 8:24 PM, "Gordon Joly" wrote: It seems clear that being friends allows a group to protect an individual, when that person (e.g. Roger Bamkin) should asked to consider his position. It appears th

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Proposal of trustees collective responsibility

2012-10-08 Thread David Gerard
On 8 October 2012 09:09, Andy Mabbett wrote: > On Oct 7, 2012 8:24 PM, "Gordon Joly" wrote: >> It seems clear that being friends allows a group to protect an individual, >> when that person (e.g. Roger Bamkin) should asked to consider his position. >> It appears that he was protected. > You've

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Proposal of trustees collective responsibility

2012-10-08 Thread Gordon Joly
Have I? Gordo On 08/10/12 09:09, Andy Mabbett wrote: You've obviously seen some evidence that the rest of us have not. Perhaps it's time you shared that with us. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk On Oct 7, 2012 8:24 PM, "Gordon Joly" >

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Proposal of trustees collective responsibility

2012-10-08 Thread Gordon Joly
On being social? Should Trustees, member and the wider community be social? I was very social with Roger Bamkin and everybody else at the AGM in Bristol in April (in the bar after the meeting). Many people have problems with being social (lack of money, social skills, phobias, being "cold s

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Proposal of trustees collective responsibility

2012-10-08 Thread Gordon Joly
On 07/10/12 22:34, Roger Bamkin wrote: Hi Gordan I thought your comment was a bit uncalled for. Good think that I did not make. Gordo ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Proposal of trustees collective responsibility

2012-10-08 Thread Andy Mabbett
You've obviously seen some evidence that the rest of us have not. Perhaps it's time you shared that with us. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk On Oct 7, 2012 8:24 PM, "Gordon Joly" wrote: > > > It seems clear that being friends allows a group to protect an individual, >