[Wikimediauk-l] Digest of board decisions regarding Monmouth, Gibraltar and QR codes
https://docs.google.com/document/d/13Latat1Ri4n4RwhGM2-smUVLvaHxkYuvRd6kPDWTbGU/edit A community member suggested I share this link with you. I thought it would be a useful idea to highlight exactly what happened in WMUK board and exec meetings regarding the issues around MonmouthpediA, GiibraltarpediA and QR codes so had this analysis made. If anyone spots ommisions please let Richard Symonds know. (I am on hols from Friday lunchtime) All this is of course available on the minutes on the wiki but it may be helpful. Jon P.S. Yes I know it is a google doc. I am evil and will be punished in wikihell. -- *Jon Davies - Chief Executive Wikimedia UK*. Mobile (0044) 7803 505 169 tweet @jonatreesdavies Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). Telephone (0044) 207 065 0990. Visit http://www.wikimedia.org.uk/ and @wikimediauk ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Digest of board decisions regarding Monmouth, Gibraltar and QR codes
Jon, You need permission to access this item. You are signed in as *deryckc...@gmail.com*, but you don't have permission to access this item. You can request access from the owner or choose a different account. *This* I call evil and should burn in wikihell ;) Deryck On 25 October 2012 13:07, Jon Davies jon.dav...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: https://docs.google.com/document/d/13Latat1Ri4n4RwhGM2-smUVLvaHxkYuvRd6kPDWTbGU/edit A community member suggested I share this link with you. I thought it would be a useful idea to highlight exactly what happened in WMUK board and exec meetings regarding the issues around MonmouthpediA, GiibraltarpediA and QR codes so had this analysis made. If anyone spots ommisions please let Richard Symonds know. (I am on hols from Friday lunchtime) All this is of course available on the minutes on the wiki but it may be helpful. Jon P.S. Yes I know it is a google doc. I am evil and will be punished in wikihell. -- *Jon Davies - Chief Executive Wikimedia UK*. Mobile (0044) 7803 505 169 tweet @jonatreesdavies Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). Telephone (0044) 207 065 0990. Visit http://www.wikimedia.org.uk/ and @wikimediauk ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Digest of board decisions regarding Monmouth, Gibraltar and QR codes
Sorry Deryck . My mistake in sharing a document that was simply a list of where QR codes, MonmouthpediA and GibraltarpediA were mentioned in board minutes. One person has a very strong objection and since it is all public anyway and accessible through the board minutes I responded to that person's honest objections by withdrawing what is an incomplete document. Hope I haven't spoiled your evening. Well done on the Cambridge event. Jon Back to wikihell. On 25 October 2012 16:41, Deryck Chan deryckc...@gmail.com wrote: Jon, You need permission to access this item. You are signed in as *deryckc...@gmail.com*, but you don't have permission to access this item. You can request access from the owner or choose a different account. *This* I call evil and should burn in wikihell ;) Deryck On 25 October 2012 13:07, Jon Davies jon.dav...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: https://docs.google.com/document/d/13Latat1Ri4n4RwhGM2-smUVLvaHxkYuvRd6kPDWTbGU/edit A community member suggested I share this link with you. I thought it would be a useful idea to highlight exactly what happened in WMUK board and exec meetings regarding the issues around MonmouthpediA, GiibraltarpediA and QR codes so had this analysis made. If anyone spots ommisions please let Richard Symonds know. (I am on hols from Friday lunchtime) All this is of course available on the minutes on the wiki but it may be helpful. Jon P.S. Yes I know it is a google doc. I am evil and will be punished in wikihell. -- *Jon Davies - Chief Executive Wikimedia UK*. Mobile (0044) 7803 505 169 tweet @jonatreesdavies Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). Telephone (0044) 207 065 0990. Visit http://www.wikimedia.org.uk/ and @wikimediauk ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org -- *Jon Davies - Chief Executive Wikimedia UK*. Mobile (0044) 7803 505 169 tweet @jonatreesdavies Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). Telephone (0044) 207 065 0990. Visit http://www.wikimedia.org.uk/ and @wikimediauk ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Digest of board decisions regarding Monmouth, Gibraltar and QR codes
On 25/10/12 17:11, Jon Davies wrote: One person has a very strong objection and since it is all public anyway and accessible through the board minutes I responded to that person's honest objections by withdrawing what is an incomplete document. But, of course, the document could have been copied and placed elsewhere. Gordo ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
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Or somebody could trawl through the board minutes and make their own summary. -- Doug On 25 October 2012 17:28, Gordon Joly gordon.j...@pobox.com wrote: On 25/10/12 17:11, Jon Davies wrote: One person has a very strong objection and since it is all public anyway and accessible through the board minutes I responded to that person's honest objections by withdrawing what is an incomplete document. But, of course, the document could have been copied and placed elsewhere. Gordo __**_ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-lhttp://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Digest of board decisions regarding Monmouth, Gibraltar and QR codes
Sorry, Jon, but if you'd put it on the wiki, it wouldn't have been (as much of) an issue, because people can and will edit it. It's also more public and doesn't require digging a URL out of an archive if somebody wanted to read it in the future (I'm assuming transparency was the aim of creating the document). Harry Mitchell http://enwp.org/User:HJ Phone: 024 7698 0977 Skype: harry_j_mitchell From: Jon Davies jon.dav...@wikimedia.org.uk To: UK Wikimedia mailing list wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Thursday, 25 October 2012, 17:11 Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Digest of board decisions regarding Monmouth, Gibraltar and QR codes Sorry Deryck . My mistake in sharing a document that was simply a list of where QR codes, MonmouthpediA and GibraltarpediA were mentioned in board minutes. One person has a very strong objection and since it is all public anyway and accessible through the board minutes I responded to that person's honest objections by withdrawing what is an incomplete document. Hope I haven't spoiled your evening. Well done on the Cambridge event. Jon Back to wikihell. On 25 October 2012 16:41, Deryck Chan deryckc...@gmail.com wrote: Jon, You need permission to access this item. You are signed in as deryckc...@gmail.com, but you don't have permission to access this item. You can request access from the owner or choose a different account. This I call evil and should burn in wikihell ;) Deryck On 25 October 2012 13:07, Jon Davies jon.dav...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: https://docs.google.com/document/d/13Latat1Ri4n4RwhGM2-smUVLvaHxkYuvRd6kPDWTbGU/edit A community member suggested I share this link with you. I thought it would be a useful idea to highlight exactly what happened in WMUK board and exec meetings regarding the issues around MonmouthpediA, GiibraltarpediA and QR codes so had this analysis made. If anyone spots ommisions please let Richard Symonds know. (I am on hols from Friday lunchtime) All this is of course available on the minutes on the wiki but it may be helpful. Jon P.S. Yes I know it is a google doc. I am evil and will be punished in wikihell. -- Jon Davies - Chief Executive Wikimedia UK. Mobile (0044) 7803 505 169 tweet @jonatreesdavies Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects).Telephone (0044) 207 065 0990. Visit http://www.wikimedia.org.uk/ and @wikimediauk ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org -- Jon Davies - Chief Executive Wikimedia UK. Mobile (0044) 7803 505 169 tweet @jonatreesdavies Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects).Telephone (0044) 207 065 0990. Visit http://www.wikimedia.org.uk/ and @wikimediauk ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Digest of board decisions regarding Monmouth, Gibraltar and QR codes
On 25 October 2012 17:47, HJ Mitchell hjmitch...@ymail.com wrote: Sorry, Jon, but if you'd put it on the wiki, it wouldn't have been (as much of) an issue, because people can and will edit it. It's also more public and doesn't require digging a URL out of an archive if somebody wanted to read it in the future (I'm assuming transparency was the aim of creating the document). Are you saying it was you that objected? If so, can you explain what your objection was? ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Gazette of board decisions on Monmouth, Gibraltar at QR.
Could you fill in the gaps and republish? It would be good to get the bits of the story that aren't in the public minutes included too. All this information is going to need to be collated for the independant reviewer anyway, so it might as well be published. On 25 October 2012 16:17, Jon Davies jon.dav...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: Dear all, I earlier today published a list of the decisions that had been made regarding theses areas as recorded on the public wiki. It has been brought to my attention that there are significant gaps e.g. Mention of the evolution of Qr codes in the Derby project which could make this digest misleading. However all the information is up there on the wiki. Apologies for any confusion this may have caused. It was done with good intentions in order to assist an understanding of what happened. Jon Davies. -- Jon Davies - Chief Executive Wikimedia UK. Mobile (0044) 7803 505 169 tweet @jonatreesdavies Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). Telephone (0044) 207 065 0990. Visit http://www.wikimedia.org.uk/ and @wikimediauk ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Gazette of board decisions on Monmouth, Gibraltar at QR.
I am afraid we don't have anyone with the time to redo that at the moment. If anyone wants to volunteer go ahead and put it in a wiki!!! The main criticisms of the googledoc version was that it did not go back far enough to include the Derby Museum work and that there may be reports to the board, mentioned in the minutes that were not included. I had to make a judgement on whether to leave up a document that I could not hand on heart say was completely accurate and might mislead people or remove it and let people revert to directly accessing the minutes. Not an easy decision but I erred on the side of caution. The independent review have had access to it as a starting point but I have explained to them its deficiencies. They will in any case being going back to zero and creating their own chronology. Jon. On 25 October 2012 18:13, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: Could you fill in the gaps and republish? It would be good to get the bits of the story that aren't in the public minutes included too. All this information is going to need to be collated for the independant reviewer anyway, so it might as well be published. On 25 October 2012 16:17, Jon Davies jon.dav...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: Dear all, I earlier today published a list of the decisions that had been made regarding theses areas as recorded on the public wiki. It has been brought to my attention that there are significant gaps e.g. Mention of the evolution of Qr codes in the Derby project which could make this digest misleading. However all the information is up there on the wiki. Apologies for any confusion this may have caused. It was done with good intentions in order to assist an understanding of what happened. Jon Davies. -- Jon Davies - Chief Executive Wikimedia UK. Mobile (0044) 7803 505 169 tweet @jonatreesdavies Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). Telephone (0044) 207 065 0990. Visit http://www.wikimedia.org.uk/ and @wikimediauk ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org -- *Jon Davies - Chief Executive Wikimedia UK*. Mobile (0044) 7803 505 169 tweet @jonatreesdavies Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). Telephone (0044) 207 065 0990. Visit http://www.wikimedia.org.uk/ and @wikimediauk ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Digest of board decisions regarding Monmouth, Gibraltar and QR codes
No. I'm not sure what gave you that impression, but I apologise if I was ambiguous. I don't know any more than you do. Harry Mitchell http://enwp.org/User:HJ Phone: 024 7698 0977 Skype: harry_j_mitchell From: Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com To: HJ Mitchell hjmitch...@ymail.com; UK Wikimedia mailing list wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Thursday, 25 October 2012, 18:10 Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Digest of board decisions regarding Monmouth, Gibraltar and QR codes On 25 October 2012 17:47, HJ Mitchell hjmitch...@ymail.com wrote: Sorry, Jon, but if you'd put it on the wiki, it wouldn't have been (as much of) an issue, because people can and will edit it. It's also more public and doesn't require digging a URL out of an archive if somebody wanted to read it in the future (I'm assuming transparency was the aim of creating the document). Are you saying it was you that objected? If so, can you explain what your objection was?___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Gazette of board decisions on Monmouth, Gibraltar at QR.
On 25/10/12 18:59, Jon Davies wrote: They will in any case being going back to zero and creating their own chronology. Jon. Like Pol Pot? Gordo ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
