Re: [Wikimediauk-l] London Bid for Wikimania 2013

2012-04-01 Thread WereSpielChequers
I've not been part of either team, though as someone who has been to three Wikimanias I've given some help to both. But then I've read most bids from the last couple of years and made suggestions or copyedits to practically all of them. I'm not convinced that it is good for a chapter to host

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] London Bid for Wikimania 2013

2012-04-01 Thread Gordon Joly
On 01/04/2012 00:50, David Gerard wrote: Crikey, a win for any UK bid would be a win for WMUK! And the community? Gordo -- Gordon Joly gordon.j...@pobox.com http://www.joly.org.uk/ Don't Leave Space To The Professionals! ___ Wikimedia UK mailing

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] London Bid for Wikimania 2013

2012-04-01 Thread David Gerard
On 1 April 2012 10:41, Gordon Joly gordon.j...@pobox.com wrote: On 01/04/2012 00:50, David Gerard wrote: Crikey, a win for any UK bid would be a win for WMUK! And the community? Well, *yes*, really obviously. However, the post I was replying to specifically concerned WMUK. - d.

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] London Bid for Wikimania 2013

2012-04-01 Thread Chris Keating
As Richard says, we took the position that we will support volunteer-led bids, but wouldn't drive one as a chapter. There are lots of reasons why it would be great to have Wikimania in the UK, but It's not something that is vital for our future as a chapter, and it's not something that's come up

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] London Bid for Wikimania 2013

2012-04-01 Thread Gordon Joly
On 01/04/2012 02:20, Anthony (AGK) wrote: Should WMUK not be involved in developing a Wikimania bid? (I don't follow WM governance very closely, and may misunderstand that aspect of the Chapter's purpose.) Job demarcation. WMUK may not take on a task that volunteer could do. Gordo -- Gordon

[Wikimediauk-l] London Bid for Wikimania 2013

2012-03-31 Thread Edward Saperia
Howdy y'all, Would anyone be interested in helping out with our bid to hold Wikimania in London in 2013? We've got a couple of weeks to refine the bid page, and there's lots of little areas that need attention... a fuller description of the venue, more accommodation options, more information on

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] London Bid for Wikimania 2013

2012-03-31 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 31 March 2012 22:10, Edward Saperia edsape...@gmail.com wrote: Howdy y'all, Would anyone be interested in helping out with our bid to hold Wikimania in London in 2013? We've got a couple of weeks to refine the bid page, and there's lots of little areas that need attention... a fuller

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] London Bid for Wikimania 2013

2012-03-31 Thread James Farrar
On 31 March 2012 22:57, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: On 31 March 2012 22:42, HJ Mitchell hjmitch...@ymail.com wrote: Without commenting on any other point or expressing any other opinions wrt either bid, I don't think the board has let us down at all (and I'm hardly known

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] London Bid for Wikimania 2013

2012-03-31 Thread Anthony (AGK)
On 1 April 2012 00:38, James Farrar james.far...@gmail.com wrote: You make the assumption that the people who had worked on the rejected bid would have shaken that rejection off to give their wholehearted support to the chosen bid. If the deadline for bids has passed then the practical issue

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] London Bid for Wikimania 2013

2012-03-31 Thread David Gerard
On 1 April 2012 00:42, Anthony (AGK) wiki...@gmail.com wrote: On 1 April 2012 00:38, James Farrar james.far...@gmail.com wrote: You make the assumption that the people who had worked on the rejected bid would have shaken that rejection off to give their wholehearted support to the chosen bid.

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] London Bid for Wikimania 2013

2012-03-31 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 1 April 2012 00:42, Anthony (AGK) wiki...@gmail.com wrote: On 1 April 2012 00:38, James Farrar james.far...@gmail.com wrote: You make the assumption that the people who had worked on the rejected bid would have shaken that rejection off to give their wholehearted support to the chosen bid.

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] London Bid for Wikimania 2013

2012-03-31 Thread Anthony (AGK)
On 1 April 2012 01:11, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: Paid employees of WMUK haven't been involved in either bid, that's part of what I'm complaining about. (Richard has been working on the London one in his spare time, but not as a WMUK employee). Should WMUK not be involved in

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] London Bid for Wikimania 2013

2012-03-31 Thread Richard Symonds
Not... quite. I've been advising on both, as a volunteer, but I can't bring myself to openly support either (as a volunteer or a staff member). It's simply too tricky. Steve Virgin (Bristol) is a fantastic person and a board member with a great bid, and Ed Saperia (London) is a fantastic

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] London Bid for Wikimania 2013

2012-03-31 Thread Richard Symonds
It's the Chapters role to support a successful bid - but the bids themselves should, we feel, be community-driven, not chapter-driven. The chapter has a policy that says we cannot do anything that a volunteer will do - we're here to support a volunteer-run bid with funding, advice and staff.