Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Process for admitting members

2008-12-01 Thread AndrewRT
On Dec 1, 7:05 pm, Gordon Joly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But really there are two: directors and members, surely? I suppose you could think about it like this, yes, but this could confuse people. Legally speaking the members are the owners of the organisation, who meet annually and elect the

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Fwd: Wikipedia quietly censored by Internet WatchFoundation

2008-12-07 Thread AndrewRT
It seems the IWF are getting so much flak they've put a front page statement on their website: Andrew ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] delay on the bank account

2008-12-08 Thread AndrewRT
On Dec 8, 12:09 pm, Thomas Dalton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/12/8 Tom Holden [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The Co-op are saying they can't open the bank account until we're approved as an official chapter of WMF. Damn. We've been trying to make it clear from the start that we're independent, they

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Location of AGM

2008-12-14 Thread AndrewRT
On Dec 1, 12:37 pm, Michael Shilliday wrote: I have never commented here before, but why the need for a physical AGM?  Incorporated companies have been having online AGMs for years now.  It may be necessary for a small group of people to be sitting in a room together,

[Wikimediauk-l] IWF issues and Wiki UK Ltd

2008-12-14 Thread AndrewRT
I just wanted to hear everyone's views about the role Wiki UK Ltd played in responding to the IWF issues. The general consensus among the Board was that we shouldn't really get involved as we didn't yet have chapter status. Individuals were encouraged to do what they could but the Board decided

[Wikimediauk-l] AGM - Agenda

2008-12-14 Thread AndrewRT
On Dec 14, 10:01 pm, Thomas Dalton wrote: ... I would hope WMUK AGMs will be more than just the membership quizing the board and will actually involve the membership having a say in how the charity is run (and not just by getting to vote for the board). Which opens

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] IWF issues and Wiki UK Ltd

2008-12-14 Thread AndrewRT
On Dec 14, 9:32 pm, Andrew Cates wrote: ... for this kind of thing I think you should feel we want you to speak and we'll let you know if we disagree. Even before we're officially a WMF chapter? Andrew ___ Wikimedia UK

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Minutes of the Wiki UK Ltd board meeting, 16/12/08

2008-12-17 Thread AndrewRT
On Dec 17, 10:19 pm, Mickey Conn wrote: Hi - The next board meeting will be in two weeks time, on Tuesday 30th December. Thanks for these minutes Mickey. KTC - would it be possible to see an early Agenda for the next meeting, so we can consider what items the Board may

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Minutes of the Wiki UK Ltd board meeting, 16/12/08

2008-12-21 Thread AndrewRT
On Dec 18, 8:39 am, Kwan Ting Chan wrote: There's nothing on there at the moment other than the standard items and matter arising from the last meeting. Thanks for that. With regard the Election

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Location of AGM

2008-12-21 Thread AndrewRT
Informed by the discussion we've had here, I'm going to propose that the next Board meeting on tuesday decide the location of the AGM so that we can start organising it. There seems to be a broad consensus that the location should be easily accessible by transport and should rotate around several

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Location of AGM

2008-12-22 Thread AndrewRT
On Dec 22, 12:53 am, AndrewRT wrote: Informed by the discussion we've had here, I'm going to propose that the next Board meeting on tuesday I should of course have said _next_ tuesday, i.e. 30th! Just confusing myself again

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Meeting tonight.

2008-12-30 Thread AndrewRT
On Dec 30, 6:45 pm, Gordon Joly wrote: I will be in the room, silent... like an elephant! Hope you enjoyed it! ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list

[Wikimediauk-l] Wikipedia Loves Art

2008-12-30 Thread AndrewRT
Hi all, I'm starting to get some more details together about the events at the Victoria Albert Museum that we're running as part of the Wikipedia Loves Art project. The VA are organising their launch event on Sunday 1st February - time to be confirmed. If you can come down that day or otherwise

[Wikimediauk-l] Attendence at AGM

2009-01-01 Thread AndrewRT
Hi all, Happy New Year to everyone! We're starting to look at the practicalities of the AGM and I though it'd be useful to get an idea of how many people might attend in person so we can book a suitable room. Bearing in mind: - all members will be able to vote - both for resolutions and for the

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Next meeting - Tuesday 13th Jan 2009, 8:30pm GMT

2009-01-01 Thread AndrewRT
Just to let you know the Board meeting today decided to call the next meeting in a fortnight's time, Tuesday 13th January 2009 at 8:30pm GMT/UTC. The Agenda is now available here: Please comment there if you

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Gift Aid - a further update

2009-01-02 Thread AndrewRT
On Jan 2, 4:22 pm, Andrew Cates wrote: Any progress on accepting direct debits? We will be able to accept standig orders as soon as the bank account is finalised which should be soon after Foundation approval next Sunday. I think the Board decided against direct debits as

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Manchester meetup

2009-01-04 Thread AndrewRT
On Jan 3, 7:31 pm, michael west wrote: Wikipedia is the encyclopedia *anyone *can edit. I have not been barred from editing and do edit under a wikiname that wouldn't  link me to my past. I think one of the strengths of wikipedia is that contributions are taken at face

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Gift Aid - a further update

2009-01-07 Thread AndrewRT
On Jan 5, 10:01 pm, Andrew Cates wrote: ... Can you accept CAF cheques yet? I'm afraid not. Looking at the CAF guidelines here: the charity must be registered with HMRC before they will pay out on any CAF cheques

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikipedia Loves Art

2009-01-08 Thread AndrewRT
On Jan 7, 9:41 pm, Gordon Joly wrote: Now, where are the rules of the game? Gordo The skeleton of the rules of the game are outlined on the wikipedia project page (en:WP:WLART) and the Flickr group ( groups/wikipedia_loves_art/) Quite a few of the

[Wikimediauk-l] Next Board meeting - Tuesday

2009-01-11 Thread AndrewRT
The next Board meeting will be held on Tuesday evening, 13 January at 20:30 GMT/UTC, in the irc:wikimedia-uk-board IRC channel. All are welcome to join and contributute in the irc:wikimedia-uk IRC channel. We will have heard the results of the WMF Board meeting so we will know whether we have

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikipedia Loves Art

2009-01-11 Thread AndrewRT
On Jan 10, 10:56 am, Gordon Joly wrote: How does that sound? Complicated... Can you suggest any ways of making it simpler? ...and the competitor cannot control stage 2. So it is no longer a scavenger hunt at that stage, Yes, I spoke to Pharos about this previously - he

[Wikimediauk-l] Encouraging new Board members

2009-01-14 Thread AndrewRT
After the Board meeting yesterday we had an interesting conversation in the IRC about whether different people would stand for election. As someone said, we have agreed on seven places on the Board, but will we get seven candidates?? This got me thinking - how can we encourage people to put

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Encouraging new Board members

2009-01-16 Thread AndrewRT
On Jan 15, 8:19 am, Michael Bimmler wrote: Many thanks for your reply here Michael - very interesting to hear your perspective on that! (In a perfect world, every board member would work the same amount of time for the chapter... I'm not sure that's even desirable.

[Wikimediauk-l] AGM location - update

2009-01-16 Thread AndrewRT
Just to update everyone, the Board decided on Monday to hold the AGM in Birmingham, or Manchester if it was not possible to find a free or low cost venue in Birmingham. The rationale was that Birmingham is a central location with good transport links to the rest of the country, London hosted the

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Election Rules

2009-01-16 Thread AndrewRT
It is intentional, yes. The idea is you have a completely new election, although we don't have to do it this way if we don't want to. On Jan 16, 5:02 pm, Thomas Dalton wrote: Details are here: Please let me know if you think they will be effective as drafted.

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Election Rules

2009-01-16 Thread AndrewRT
On Jan 16, 6:07 pm, Thomas Dalton wrote: I have no particularly strong feelings on it.. Likewise! ... Having two completely new boards within 2 months could be very complicated and confusing for all kinds of relationships. Obviously, those that won the original

Re: [Wikimediauk-l]

2009-01-24 Thread AndrewRT
On Jan 24, 12:45 pm, Michael Peel wrote: On 24 Jan 2009, at 12:37, Gordon Joly wrote: At 11:27 + 21/1/09, Michael Peel wrote: Chris, I assume you mean We're currently waiting for the WMF to set up a wiki for WMUK, which we hope will

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Uk Government consultation on copyright

2009-01-24 Thread AndrewRT
On Jan 24, 7:30 pm, Andrew Turvey wrote: The UK government are currently running a consultation on Developing a Copyright Agenda for the 21st century The website is here: and the deadline for

[Wikimediauk-l] Wikipedia Loves Art - the Goal List!

2009-01-31 Thread AndrewRT
The Wikipedia Loves Art project will start tomorrow, Sunday 1st February, with a launch event at the Victoria and Albert Museum at 1pm. The goal list has now been published at Hope as many of you can come along as possible - and happy

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Fwd: BBC Radio Wales interview

2009-02-01 Thread AndrewRT
Just had a listen - you did well, thanks for picking this up! I guess the main message was flagged revisions are not a fundamental change, just an extension of existing protection processes which you put across well, along with the impetus for action from the senators. Pity you couldn't get the

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Chapters Meeting

2009-02-10 Thread AndrewRT
On Feb 10, 8:47 pm, Thomas Dalton wrote: It's probably worth pointing out that at the moment less than 7 people have expressed an interest in standing for the 7 seats on the board, I don't think we should assume that this will remain the case. Out of the five current

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Social Entrepreneur awards

2009-02-16 Thread AndrewRT
Who's been leading the Wikipedia for Schools project in the UK? On Feb 16, 9:12 pm, Thomas Dalton wrote: 2009/2/16 Andrew Cates Is Wikipedia UK pitching for the HBOS social entrepreneur awards? I was kind of wondering about putting the

[Wikimediauk-l] Citing wikipedia

2009-02-23 Thread AndrewRT
Just reading the news online and came across this article: Look closely and you can see the picture cites wikipedia I know pictures often cite AFP like that - but is this enough under the GDFL? If not, what is the procedure for reporting copyright abuses? Andrew

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Citing wikipedia

2009-02-24 Thread AndrewRT
On Feb 24, 1:46 am, geni wrote: 2009/2/24 AndrewRT Just reading the news online and came across this article: Look closely and you can see the picture cites wikipedia I know pictures often cite AFP like

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] AGM Resolutions

2009-03-03 Thread AndrewRT
On Mar 3, 10:26 pm, James Forrester wrote: 2009/3/3 AndrewRT The Board has an action to register with the Charity Commission as soon as it's likely that our income will be more than £5,000 - which will be as soon were announced as the winning bid

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] AGM in Manchester

2009-03-08 Thread AndrewRT
The Board was very clear to me - only free or nearly free (i.e. £10) would do! If we're not able to get a free room, I guess we can start looking at non-free ones. On Mar 8, 12:38 am, Thomas Dalton wrote: 2009/3/7 Andrew Turvey Hi all,

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] AGM in Manchester

2009-03-08 Thread AndrewRT
Personally, I think a meeting in a pub or even a pub room gives a very different impression to a meeting in a university room, and we need to bear that in mind. Imagine giving a presentation or holding hustings. Although we're only small now, I hope this is the start of something big. I say let's

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] AGM in Manchester

2009-03-09 Thread AndrewRT
On Mar 9, 8:15 am, Gordon Joly wrote: At 13:19 + 7/3/09, Andrew Turvey wrote: Hi all, Unfortunately we've drawn a blank with finding a suitable free venue in Birmingham, so we've decided to move to plan B, which is Manchester. Does anyone have any contacts -

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Board meeting tonight + Wikimania bid meeting beforehand

2009-03-10 Thread AndrewRT
In case you don't have the addresses to hand: board meeting: #wikimedia-uk-board discussion: #wikimedia-uk wikimania: #wikimania-oxford On Mar 10, 6:40 pm, Thomas Dalton wrote: Reminder: There is a board meeting on IRC tonight at 8:30pm. My main reason for this email,

[Wikimediauk-l] Volunteer teller

2009-03-16 Thread AndrewRT
One of our tellers has unfortunately had to pull out, so the Board is looking for a replacement. Is anyone able to volunteer? We have one teller, so if no-one comes forward we'll just appoint a second person to count the votes at the AGM. However, it would be ideal if we could get a second teller

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Gift Aid update

2009-03-18 Thread AndrewRT
On Mar 18, 12:54 pm, joseph seddon wrote: I think that making preparations for both drafting a complaint to HMRC and preparing an application to CC should start now. Even if the preparations are only minor. Delaying either by any real length of time could

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikipedia Loves Art?

2009-03-20 Thread AndrewRT
Thanks for the nudge! I've been in touch with the organisers at the Brooklyn; they are currently working through each of the 11,528 images to check they are all copyright-compliant and otherwise ok. They haven't been able to tell me when they'll be finished, but I'll keep hassling them! Hope to

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Jimbo at the AGM

2009-03-20 Thread AndrewRT
Jimbo unfortunately has turned his facebook reply from accept to decline which I guess means he pressed the wrong button! Pity! Personally I'm most looking forward to the talks and the discussion on the chapter's priorities. The hustings should also be interesting as it will continue the debate

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Gift Aid update

2009-03-20 Thread AndrewRT
On Mar 18, 11:39 pm, Thomas Dalton wrote: ... CC [Charity Commission] will almost certainly want written confirmation (unconditionally, that is - what we have at the moment is all conditional on us winning the bid) The CC application form

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] BBC and Wikipedia - a thought

2009-03-20 Thread AndrewRT
Don't worry - it's being followed up! On Mar 20, 11:38 pm, Thomas Dalton wrote: BUMP! This seems to have been missed by the board - any comments? 2009/3/18 Steve Bowbrick Hi everyone, This is my first post here. I've been responsible

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimedia UK March newsletter

2009-03-21 Thread AndrewRT
On Mar 21, 12:24 am, Mickey Conn wrote: The March newsletter has been published at is copied below for your convenience: 2. Annual General Meeting and Board elections We are pleased to annouce that the first AGM of

[Wikimediauk-l] Anonymous editing on

2009-03-21 Thread AndrewRT
I've started a poll at on whether we should continue allowing anonymous editing on Please let me know your views. regards, ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list

[Wikimediauk-l] Becoming a Board member

2009-04-01 Thread AndrewRT
We had a chat at the Board meeting last night and there was a bit of nervousness at the fewness of people who have expressed an interest in standing for the Board. The applications are going straight to the tellers so the current Board members won't actually know who's applied until they're

[Wikimediauk-l] Reminder - deadline for Board nominations is Sunday!

2009-04-04 Thread AndrewRT
Just a reminder that there are only 25 hours to go before close of nominations for the new Board! If you are interested in running, all that is needed is a quick email to with the information requested at

[Wikimediauk-l] Media contacts

2009-04-08 Thread AndrewRT
One of the key things that the chapter does/will do is to do with media contacts. I've started a section and a page on the wiki - - to record what we do - please could you edit away! cheers ___

[Wikimediauk-l] Userpage template

2009-04-08 Thread AndrewRT
I've created a new template which members can add to their userpages to advertise WMUK and encourage other people to get involved. Please edit away if you can improve! Just add {{WMUK}} to the top of your English Wikipedia or Wikinews page (feel free to copy across to other projects as required)

[Wikimediauk-l] Membership drive template

2009-04-08 Thread AndrewRT
I've put together a proposed tempate for sending round everyone who's previously expressed an interest in the chapter but hasn't joined up yet. It's at Please let me know if yu have any suggestions for improvements. Cheers Andrew

[Wikimediauk-l] Board report for AGM

2009-04-15 Thread AndrewRT
We're planning to do a brief Board report (perhaps 1 or 2 pages) to the AGM summarising the acheivements of the initial Board. Has anyone got ideas for what they would like it to contain? If so, please comment here: Thanks

[Wikimediauk-l] Chapter Agreement

2009-05-01 Thread AndrewRT
The Wikimedia Foundation has recently published its proposals for a new standard Chaptar Agreement. They are hoping for all chapters to replace their existing chapter agreements with this new one by the end of June. They have agreed that we are ok to publish the draft in a public forum so our

[Wikimediauk-l] AGM pictures

2009-05-01 Thread AndrewRT
Has anyone got any pictures of the AGM? If so, could you upload them to the wiki at It would be good to have some pics so we can start to illustrate the site. Cheers! Andrew ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Next board meeting: this evening, with a different format

2009-10-21 Thread AndrewRT
How does everyone think it went on Tuesday? Personally I found the Skype part to be much more productive than IRC - it was a lot easier to discuss potentially contentious and complex issues over Skype than over IRC. The main negatives were the fact that it wasn't open to our supporters to listen

[Wikimediauk-l] Skeleton branches

2009-12-06 Thread AndrewRT
When we were recognised as a chapter by the Foundation we got permission to use names like Wikimedia Wales, Wikimedia Scotland (plus other language derivations) with the thought that some day they might be useful to have. We haven't yet had the need or opportunity to use them, but there are a

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Skeleton branches

2009-12-06 Thread AndrewRT
Thanks everyone for the comments. To respond to three points raised: On Dec 6, 5:11 pm, Thomas Dalton wrote: 2009/12/6 AndrewRT That's pretty much what I've been thinking, although I'm not sure we need it yet. I think we ought to let

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Skeleton branches

2009-12-08 Thread AndrewRT
On Dec 7, 12:31 pm, Thomas Dalton wrote: I don't think we need them until we are ready to use them fully. Do we have volunteers to be the regional chairs you mention? If they end up just being figureheads that things are done in the name of, I would be opposed. Why?

[Wikimediauk-l] Wikimedia UK Open decisions

2009-12-20 Thread AndrewRT
One of the things that a few people have mentioned as a real positive about the chapter is the way that decisions are made openly in consultation with members and supporters. The home page makes quite a bg deal about this: Open decisions As an organisation promoting open knowledge, we also want

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Open Knowledge Conference (OKCon) 2010: Call for Proposals

2010-01-30 Thread AndrewRT
On Jan 21, 7:39 pm, Isabell Long wrote: On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 06:24:29PM +, Jonathan Gray wrote: ~~ Open Knowledge Conference (OKCon) 2010: Call for Proposals ~~  * where: London, UK  * when: Saturday 24th April, 2010  * www:  * last