Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Open Source Schools conference, Nottingham, Monday 20th July

2009-07-15 Thread Cormac Lawler
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 4:11 PM, Andrew Turvey andrewrtur...@googlemail.com
 wrote:

 I'm pleased to share with everyone that I've managed to get myself in as a
 speaker in the Open Source Schools unconference in Nottingham next Monday
 20th July. Although it's primarily focused on open source software, they
 have agreed to extend it to talking about open source content as well.

 I'll be leading a session from 2:05 - 2:35 on the subject of using
 Wikipedia in Schools


Well done, Andrew. :-)

From my speaking experience*, audiences vary in their knowledge of, and
attitudes to, Wikipedia. You'll probably need to cover some of the basics -
i.e. how it works - but balance this with an educator's perspective: what
good is Wikipedia for my students, or for me; why should they or I use it;
how would they know if it's reliable or not?

The angle that I usually stress is that Wikipedia's transparent and
participative nature has profound implications for the construction of
knowledge, and becoming critical - educators trying to promote critical
thinking have a valuable resource in Wikipedia to show students how
knowledge is always contestable (and is contested!). (Some more at: 
http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Inside_Wikipedia.) And for those who just
want the (unvandalised) facts, you could mention flagged revisions as a
mechanism for ameliorating vandalism, and promoting reliability - as well as
the fact that dealing with vandalism is an extraordinary, distributed
effort, often using pretty sophisticated tools, as well as basic ones like
recent changes, history, watchlists, diffs, rollback (ie 'how it works').

Also, don't forget Wikipedia's sister projects - Wikibooks and Wikiversity
being the most obviously relevant ones. Teachers can write their own
textbooks or materials, or adapt those of others - the practice of teaching
has always involved sharing ideas amongst teachers. And students can give
feedback on resources, edit them directly, or create their own resources
that facilitate their learning processes, or simply document how they
learnt. One thing that educators often feel strange about is that someone
else could edit *their* educational resources - you can mention the ability
to 'fork' into derivative works, rather than necessarily edit the same
resource. These are cultural issues, and quite complex - but it's worth at
least helping people recognise the opportunities, as opposed to the threats
of free culture. This is a growing educational agenda now - taking the
initiative of 'open source' towards developing 'open educational resources'
(OER) - and Graham Attwell, who I've met, will no doubt be plugging this.

And yes, as Thomas points out, there are school-friendly Wikipedia resources
- and that we're always looking for ways of improving/extending/refocusing
them, and always appreciate help. ;-)

All the best,
Cormac

* Yup, will put my details on the wmuk speaker page now. :-)
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[Wikimediauk-l] Open Source Schools conference, Nottingham, Monday 20th July

2009-07-14 Thread Andrew Turvey
I'm pleased to share with everyone that I've managed to get myself in as a 
speaker in the Open Source Schools unconference in Nottingham next Monday 
20th July. Although it's primarily focused on open source software, they have 
agreed to extend it to talking about open source content as well. 

I'll be leading a session from 2:05 - 2:35 on the subject of using Wikipedia 
in Schools 

More details are: 

Session introduction: http://opensourceschools.org.uk/node/11659 
Conference programme: http://opensourceschools.org.uk/unconference09 
Venue: http://www.ncsl.org.uk/lcc-map.pdf 

If you are able to come along please do - it runs from 10-4 at a venue near 
Nottingham University. The cost is free for all school and local authority 
staff and presenters and £55 for others. The key note speakers are George 
Auckland , Head of Learning Innovation at BBC Learning and Graham Attwell , 
Director of Pontydysgu , an e-learning company. 

Please spread the word and please let me have any suggestions for the kinds of 
things I should cover. 

Regards, 

Andrew 
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Open Source Schools conference, Nottingham, Monday 20th July

2009-07-14 Thread Thomas Dalton
Great stuff! Take a stack of Wikipedia for Schools CDs (or DVDs,
whatever it's on these days) to hand out. I guess you need to spend
most of the time emphasising how to use Wikipedia properly and that,
if you do use it properly, it is a good research tool so shouldn't be
banned.

2009/7/14 Andrew Turvey andrewrtur...@googlemail.com:
 I'm pleased to share with everyone that I've managed to get myself in as a
 speaker in the Open Source Schools unconference in Nottingham next Monday
 20th July. Although it's primarily focused on open source software, they
 have agreed to extend it to talking about open source content as well.

 I'll be leading a session from 2:05 - 2:35 on the subject of using
 Wikipedia in Schools

 More details are:

 Session introduction: http://opensourceschools.org.uk/node/11659
 Conference programme: http://opensourceschools.org.uk/unconference09
 Venue: http://www.ncsl.org.uk/lcc-map.pdf

 If you are able to come along please do - it runs from 10-4 at a venue near
 Nottingham University. The cost is free for all school and local authority
 staff and presenters and £55 for others. The key note speakers are George
 Auckland, Head of Learning Innovation at BBC Learning and Graham Attwell,
 Director of Pontydysgu, an e-learning company.

 Please spread the word and please let me have any suggestions for the kinds
 of things I should cover.

 Regards,

 Andrew

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Open Source Schools conference, Nottingham, Monday 20th July

2009-07-14 Thread Andrew Turvey
- Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: 
 From: Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com 
 To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org 
 Sent: Tuesday, 14 July, 2009 16:50:09 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland, 
 Portugal 
 Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Open Source Schools conference, Nottingham, 
 Monday 20th July 
 
 Great stuff! Take a stack of Wikipedia for Schools CDs (or DVDs, 

I'll try! Hope they arrive on time. 

 whatever it's on these days) to hand out. I guess you need to spend 
 most of the time emphasising how to use Wikipedia properly and that, 
 if you do use it properly, it is a good research tool so shouldn't be 
 banned. 

Yes - I guess primary and secondary school teachers aren't going to be so 
focused on reliability issues compared to university teachers - but I might be 
proved wrong! 

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