Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Phorm opt-out for wikimedia.org.uk?
2009/4/30 Michael Peel : > A number of other chapters have already opted out. I would be very > surprised if WMUK didn't, although I'm still unconvinced that opting > out will actually do anything... Opting-out is onerous and flawed. But the opt-out campaign is proving very effective publicity against Phorm. So if the chapters opt out, then ORG can put it on their blog, we all look good, ORG looks good and Phorm looks like ... Phorm. - d. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Phorm opt-out for wikimedia.org.uk?
A number of other chapters have already opted out. I would be very surprised if WMUK didn't, although I'm still unconvinced that opting out will actually do anything... Mike On 30 Apr 2009, at 10:01, brian.mcn...@wikinewsie.org wrote: > I'd say Phorm could technically be seen as in violation of the WMF > privacy policy - which I assume WMUK has adopted for their own use. > > It'd delight me to see all chapters plus the WMF ensure they're > opted out, just to say 'no' to cooperating with a surveillence > scheme for advertising. I'd also say a release was needed on the > issue. > > Anyone from chapcom here who wants to chip in and say how the > others would go? even if purely symbolic, I'd even opt out > wikipedia.de - and then hit the press with it. if all the WMF sites > opt out too then that is newsworthy enough for a press release. > > > Brian. > > Original Message > Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Phorm opt-out for wikimedia.org.uk? > From: David Gerard > Date: Tue, April 28, 2009 3:02 pm > To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > 2009/4/28 Andrew Turvey : > > > When the Board discussed it last we said we'd wait until WMF > decided - but > > the feeling was in favour of opting out. > > I've added it to http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetings/2009-05-05/ > Agenda > > Let me know if you think it needs to be dealt with before then. > > > I'd say ask internal-l :-) > > > - d. > > ___ > Wikimedia UK mailing list > wikimediau...@wikimedia.org > http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l > WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org > ___ > Wikimedia UK mailing list > wikimediau...@wikimedia.org > http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l > WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Phorm opt-out for wikimedia.org.uk?
I'd say Phorm could technically be seen as in violation of the WMF privacy policy - which I assume WMUK has adopted for their own use.It'd delight me to see all chapters plus the WMF ensure they're opted out, just to say 'no' to cooperating with a surveillence scheme for advertising. I'd also say a release was needed on the issue.Anyone from chapcom here who wants to chip in and say how the others would go? even if purely symbolic, I'd even opt out wikipedia.de - and then hit the press with it. if all the WMF sites opt out too then that is newsworthy enough for a press release.Brian. Original Message ---- Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Phorm opt-out for wikimedia.org.uk? From: David Gerard Date: Tue, April 28, 2009 3:02 pm To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org 2009/4/28 Andrew Turvey : > When the Board discussed it last we said we'd wait until WMF decided - but > the feeling was in favour of opting out. > I've added it to http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetings/2009-05-05/Agenda > Let me know if you think it needs to be dealt with before then. I'd say ask internal-l :-) - d. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Phorm opt-out for wikimedia.org.uk?
2009/4/28 Andrew Turvey : > When the Board discussed it last we said we'd wait until WMF decided - but > the feeling was in favour of opting out. > I've added it to http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetings/2009-05-05/Agenda > Let me know if you think it needs to be dealt with before then. I'd say ask internal-l :-) - d. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Phorm opt-out for wikimedia.org.uk?
When the Board discussed it last we said we'd wait until WMF decided - but the feeling was in favour of opting out. I've added it to http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetings/2009-05-05/Agenda Let me know if you think it needs to be dealt with before then. Andrew - Original Message - From: "David Gerard" To: "James Forrester" Cc: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Tuesday, 28 April, 2009 18:07:08 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland, Portugal Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Phorm opt-out for wikimedia.org.uk? 2009/4/28 James Forrester : > Assuming all goes well, I'm about not to be (at least for > wikimedia.co.uk; if that works, we'll do .org.uk immediately > thereafter). Not sure about timings etc. Oh yes, any and all! > Happy to undertake any action which the Board requests of me, of course. :-) I'm thinking of the publicity utility of the phrase "The Board of Wikimedia UK unanimously voted that wikimedia.org.uk and wikimedia.co.uk should be opted out of Phorm, and a request has been sent to this effect." - d. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Phorm opt-out for wikimedia.org.uk?
2009/4/28 James Forrester : > Assuming all goes well, I'm about not to be (at least for > wikimedia.co.uk; if that works, we'll do .org.uk immediately > thereafter). Not sure about timings etc. Oh yes, any and all! > Happy to undertake any action which the Board requests of me, of course. :-) I'm thinking of the publicity utility of the phrase "The Board of Wikimedia UK unanimously voted that wikimedia.org.uk and wikimedia.co.uk should be opted out of Phorm, and a request has been sent to this effect." - d. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Phorm opt-out for wikimedia.org.uk?
2009/4/28 David Gerard : > Has James sent a Phorm opt-out email for wikimedia.org.uk yet? I ask > because wm.de and wm.fr have just opted out too. > > The canonical web address is now http://uk.wikimedia.org , but opting > out provides a nice public message. For publicity purposes, I'd > suggest the Board agree it should be opted out and James send the > actual message (since he's still registered contact). Assuming all goes well, I'm about not to be (at least for wikimedia.co.uk; if that works, we'll do .org.uk immediately thereafter). Not sure about timings etc. Happy to undertake any action which the Board requests of me, of course. :-) J. -- James D. Forrester jdforres...@wikimedia.org | jdforres...@gmail.com [[Wikipedia:User:Jdforrester|James F.]] ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Phorm opt-out for wikimedia.org.uk?
2009/4/28 joseph seddon : > I thought it only was for sites hosted outside the uk? Our site is hosted outside the UK. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Phorm opt-out for wikimedia.org.uk?
I thought it only was for sites hosted outside the uk? seddon -Original Message- From: David Gerard Sent: 28 April 2009 14:56 To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org; jdforres...@gmail.com Subject: [Wikimediauk-l] Phorm opt-out for wikimedia.org.uk? Has James sent a Phorm opt-out email for wikimedia.org.uk yet? I ask because wm.de and wm.fr have just opted out too. The canonical web address is now http://uk.wikimedia.org , but opting out provides a nice public message. For publicity purposes, I'd suggest the Board agree it should be opted out and James send the actual message (since he's still registered contact). - d. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
