Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Digitisation equipment

2009-08-28 Thread Gordon Joly
At 08:58 +0100 27/8/09, Michael Peel wrote:
>You're raising this for discussion _now_, amongst everything else 
>that's going on?
>
>If I recall correctly, the WMUK board meeting discussion was provoked 
>by a comment I made earlier in the meeting. My original thought was 
>that a flat-bed scanner or similar could potentially be very useful
>to museums in terms of digitizing old images/documents etc.

I believe that high volume digitization is done by a rostrum camera, 
not a scanner.

Gordo

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Digitisation equipment

2009-08-27 Thread Michael Peel
You're raising this for discussion _now_, amongst everything else  
that's going on?

If I recall correctly, the WMUK board meeting discussion was provoked  
by a comment I made earlier in the meeting. My original thought was  
that a flat-bed scanner or similar could potentially be very useful  
to museums in terms of digitizing old images/documents etc. I would  
imagine that a high-quality one of these would cost a few hundred  
pounds -- whereas the book scanning machine as described is either  
something that likely would cost tens of thousands of pounds, or  
would have to be created on a custom basis.

Of course, the real expense with digitization is not the machinery,  
but the costs involved with hiring someone to operate it, feed it  
material and process the results. The last part is where wikimedia  
can be of most use, IMO. It's an open question of how much more of  
the process we'd have to be involved in so that the digitization  
happens, which would vary depending on the current status of the  
digitization efforts at each institution and also the capabilities/ 
resources available at the institution.

Mike

On 26 Aug 2009, at 23:28, Andrew Turvey wrote:

>  { margin: 0; }
> We had a discussion at a recent Wikimedia UK board meeting about  
> potentially buying some digitisation equipment which could be used  
> to generate content for the Wikimedia projects. This recent email  
> to the EN-WP list sparked my interest.
>
> Does anyone have any experience with equipment like this, and could  
> you recommend anything? Any idea what the price range and quality  
> typically is?
>
> Also, is anyone else in the Wikimedia community currently doing this?
>
> Thanks,
>
>  Forwarded Message -
> From: "Steve Bennett" 
> To: "English Wikipedia" 
> Sent: Sunday, 23 August, 2009 10:55:32 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain,  
> Ireland, Portugal
> Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia reaches 3 millionth article
>
> On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 11:15 PM, David Gerard  
> wrote:
> > I believe they have machines to turn pages, and something to figure
> > out the distorted photo of the book and render it how it would  
> look as
> > a flat page.
>
> Yeah, there are videos of these machines. The book sits open, the
> scanner comes down and scans both open pages at once. As it goes up
> again, it sucks on one page, causing it to flip over. Then repeat.
>
> Oh, look, here you go:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlOQuuLYavY
>
> And while we're at it:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_scanning
>
> Steve
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Digitisation equipment

2009-08-26 Thread geni
2009/8/27 Andrew Turvey :
> - "Thomas Dalton"  wrote:
>>
>> 2009/8/26 Andrew Turvey :
>> > We had a discussion at a recent Wikimedia UK board meeting about
>> > potentially
>> > buying some digitisation equipment which could be used to generate
>> > content
>> > for the Wikimedia projects. This recent email to the EN-WP list sparked
>> > my
>> > interest.
>>
>> What do we want to digitise? I think that needs to be worked out
>> before we can determine what kind of equipment we need.
>
> The idea was books but it very much depends on how much it costs and what it
> can be used for.

Unlikely to be able to do much existing book digitalisation projects
cannot. Better targets are things that no one else appears to be
looking to scan or where higher res scans are needed. for example this
collection:

http://www.english-heritage.org.uk/server/show/nav.20088



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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Digitisation equipment

2009-08-26 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/8/27 Andrew Turvey :
> The idea was books but it very much depends on how much it costs and what it
> can be used for.

What kind of books?

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Digitisation equipment

2009-08-26 Thread Andrew Turvey
- "Thomas Dalton"  wrote: 
> 
> 2009/8/26 Andrew Turvey : 
> > We had a discussion at a recent Wikimedia UK board meeting about 
> > potentially 
> > buying some digitisation equipment which could be used to generate content 
> > for the Wikimedia projects. This recent email to the EN-WP list sparked my 
> > interest. 
> 
> What do we want to digitise? I think that needs to be worked out 
> before we can determine what kind of equipment we need. 

The idea was books but it very much depends on how much it costs and what it 
can be used for. 
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Digitisation equipment

2009-08-26 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/8/26 Andrew Turvey :
> We had a discussion at a recent Wikimedia UK board meeting about potentially
> buying some digitisation equipment which could be used to generate content
> for the Wikimedia projects. This recent email to the EN-WP list sparked my
> interest.

What do we want to digitise? I think that needs to be worked out
before we can determine what kind of equipment we need.

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