Re: [Wikisource-l] Proposal

2017-10-12 Thread Andrea Zanni
This is an ooold issue: Wikisource does not have proper metadata. I'm one of the people that Nemo Was mentioning: I'm a digital librarian working for MLOL, and in the past 2 years, among other dozens of digital libraries, I've managed to import Wikisource metadata on MLOL in 3 languages

Re: [Wikisource-l] Proposal

2017-10-12 Thread Sam Wilson
Sorry, Sam, the other thing I meant to say was: that's a brilliant idea! :-) I'd love to help make it happen, if I can be of any use. :) On Thu, 12 Oct 2017, at 08:51 PM, Sam Wilson wrote: > It's slightly tricky at the moment to extract data for validated > works, for one because we don't have

Re: [Wikisource-l] Proposal

2017-10-12 Thread Sam Wilson
It's slightly tricky at the moment to extract data for validated works, for one because we don't have solid data linking Index pages to their corresponding main namespace (i.e. "work") pages. The Index pages have the status, but the mainspace pages are what we think of as the work. There's P1957

Re: [Wikisource-l] Proposal

2017-10-12 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, In my opinion this is a service not only for editors but for the complete Wikimedia reader public. So the notion of putting it in that platform is great but we need to advertise the finished books of Wikisource to the whole world. Thanks, GerardM On 12 October 2017 at 14:37, Sam

Re: [Wikisource-l] Proposal

2017-10-12 Thread Sam Walton
Hi all, I work on the Wikipedia Library program, and wanted to jump in with a passing thought I'd had about Wikisource and TWL. We'll be building search and discovery tools into the library card platform ( https://wikipedialibrary.wmflabs.org/) that's currently under ongoing development. They'll

Re: [Wikisource-l] Proposal

2017-10-12 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Gerard Meijssen, 12/10/2017 15:04: Given the discussion about finished books on the Korean Wikisource, I this demonstrates that we really need to advertise the finished books to a reading public. In Italy, after many years of talk with local libraries, the Wikisource books are included in

[Wikisource-l] Proposal

2017-10-12 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Given the discussion about finished books on the Korean Wikisource, I this demonstrates that we really need to advertise the finished books to a reading public. After all what is it that we do it for but for finding a public for the transcribed books? Thanks, GerardM

Re: [Wikisource-l] Validated works on kowikisource?

2017-10-12 Thread ankry.wiki
The index status information IS available in MediaWiki, see:   https://en.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Special:IndexPages     Unfortunately, it is hard to use it as * it seems to be available only as this HTML special page (no API interface, no LUA interface) * if is available only for 1

Re: [Wikisource-l] Validated works on kowikisource?

2017-10-12 Thread Yongmin H.
Can you divert that Wikidata stuff to other thread? I’m not sure if this is really related to ‘kowikisource’... -- Yongmin Sent from my iPhone https://wp.revi.blog Text licensed under CC BY ND 2.0 KR Please note that this address is list-only address and any non-mailing list mails will be

Re: [Wikisource-l] Validated works on kowikisource?

2017-10-12 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Yes we need to have a better mechanism. However, there is nothing stopping us to publish all the books that are finished and ready to be read. That is the proof of the Wikisource pudding.. So is there a Wikidata query showing all the books that are finished and ready to read. With this we

Re: [Wikisource-l] Validated works on kowikisource?

2017-10-12 Thread Nicolas VIGNERON
Hi, The validation-status data can and sometimes is stored in Wikidata. See how it is stored here : https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Help:Badges and here an example of Wikidata query for all items about validated text : http://tinyurl.com/yaud3uoy Thad said, most of the times Wikidata is not

Re: [Wikisource-l] Validated works on kowikisource?

2017-10-12 Thread billinghurst
The validation flag for wikisource on wikidata is a manual switch, and none of the available external tools/toys are able to tweak it at this point of time. -- billinghurst -- Original Message -- From: "Gerard Meijssen" To: "discussion list for Wikisource,

Re: [Wikisource-l] Validated works on kowikisource?

2017-10-12 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, When this data is in Wikidata, we can build a query that shows all the ready books in every language. We can then package it and measure how often books are read. This is the purpose of Wikisource isn't it? Thanks, GerardM On 12 October 2017 at 07:37, Yongmin H.

Re: [Wikisource-l] Validated works on kowikisource?

2017-10-12 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, What does it take to get the validation-status in Wikidata. If anything it is the most important attribute. Knowing what people can read trumps everything. Thanks, GerardM On 12 October 2017 at 07:22, Sam Wilson wrote: > Nope. The validation-status data is