Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikisource survey
Congrats on a good response rate. p.s. It was pulled down from enws and oldws sitenotices on the 28th. On Oct 31, 2013 11:39 PM, Andrea Zanni zanni.andre...@gmail.com wrote: Ok guys, after (more than) 2 weeks, the survey will be closed tonight. If you still need to fill it in, do it *now*. We then will have to analyze the 250 responses :-) Thanks for your help so far, and be prepared to help us more :-D Aubrey On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 10:53 AM, Andrea Zanni zanni.andre...@gmail.comwrote: Hi all, have you posted the link to the survey in your personal Wikisource? https://wikimedia.qualtrics.com/SE/?SID=SV_6taoDVAWcg6vSIZ I suggest you do it as soon as possible, and maybe directly use the sitenotice (on MediaWiki:Sitenotice) on top of all pages (ask you community to do so, before). *We will shut the survey down in 2 weeks*, so, better hurry :-) Aubrey On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 4:09 PM, Andrea Zanni zanni.andre...@gmail.comwrote: Dear all, thanks to your amazing work, we now have the survey in 11 languages! (which are) English French Italian Hindi Catalan Spanish Russian Dutch German Ukrainian Polish The survey can be translated in less than an hour, so if you want to do that tell us NOW. We were thinking of activating the survey and spreading it for tomorrow (Sunday 13) evening, CET time, in order to making it available for 2 whole weeks, from Monday 14 till Monday 28. We encourage you to talk with your language community in these days: the survey could be linked in the village pumps, or, even better, in the sitenotice. We are aware that every community has different policies and customs, so it's much better that you talk to you own, and decide together. The link to the survey should always be this one: https://wikimedia.qualtrics.com/SE/?SID=SV_6taoDVAWcg6vSIZ If you have problem, please tell us. If you need any kind of assistance, please ask. And thanks again for the amazing work :-) Aubrey and Micru On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 4:11 PM, Arnd Schröter arnd.schroe...@gmail.com wrote: I would go for German translation if you tell me how. .. Ursprüngliche Nachricht Von: Andrea Zanni zanni.andre...@gmail.com Datum: 10.10.2013 14:50 (GMT+01:00) An: discussion list for Wikisource, the free library wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org Betreff: Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikisource survey Hi all. The survey has been translated already in Italian and French, and is being translated in Hindi. Is somebody else interested in translating it in another language? Do you have any more feedback? Otherwise, we'll launch it as soon as the last translations are completed. Aubrey On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 7:06 PM, Andrea Zanni zanni.andre...@gmail.comwrote: I will write you in private. For translating it, the best thing is to directly do that on the software. Is anyone else interested in doing so? As of now, we have French, Hindi and Italian volunteers. Aubrey On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 6:57 PM, Erasmo Barresi erasmo_barr...@live.it wrote: Aubrey, you might want to change Wikisource should accept user translations? to Should Wikisource accept user translations?. Everything else is good. Congratulations! I volunteer to translate it into Italian. Where can I write the translation? Erasmo ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l
Re: [Wikisource-l] Blogpost on Wikisource
Im on mobile only today. If nobody else beats me, Ill add the site notice tonight. On Oct 17, 2013 9:02 PM, Andrea Zanni zanni.andre...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Dmytro. Some en.source (and oldwikisource.org) admins should be on this list though: can you guys promote it on the sitenotice? Aubrey On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 12:51 PM, Dmytro Dziuma dix...@acm.lviv.uawrote: I asked administrators of the English Wikisource a couple of days ago https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisource:Administrators%27_noticeboard#Wikisource_survey But I was not lucky to get any attention. I would say, it is quite strange for the biggest Wikisource domain, but anyway... I can verify that the link is in the site notice of the Ukrainian Wikisource (I've done it myself as I'm an administrator there). However I don't see it on the Russian Wikisource . Best regards, Dmytro Dziuma as DixonD On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Andrea Zanni zanni.andre...@gmail.comwrote: I don't know how many of you follow the Wikimedia blog, but few days ago we got posted: http://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/10/15/october-report-on-wikisource/ The good thing is that the survey link was there so right now we have more than 70 surveys completed. The bad thing is that many wikisources did not propmote the survey in their village pump/sitenotice. Could you please check your own Wikisource and paste the link? https://wikimedia.qualtrics.com/SE/?SID=SV_6taoDVAWcg6vSIZ English, German, Spanish sources don't have it. I can't check myself Ukranian, Russian, Hebrew and Hindi though. Aubrey ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l
[Wikisource-l] Banned Books Week
A Facebook post from the State Library of New South Wales alerted me to this being Banned Books Week. http://www.bannedbooksweek.org/ https://www.facebook.com/hashtag/bannedbooksweek https://twitter.com/search?q=%23bannedbooksweek There is only two days left in the 'week'. What can we do to participate? My idea for an international project is to set up a latin transcription of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Index_Librorum_Prohibitorum I havent looked carefully for an online text, but it isnt immediately obvious that it has been transcribed already. -- John Vandenberg ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l
Re: [Wikisource-l] Banned Books Week
We could easily finish a small project in the time remaining, if the community worked together. I also like the Pradeep's idea of creating a list of banned books already on Wikisource. We could start by creating a WikiProject and/or Portal? I agree we are unlikely to make a significant dent in a large project, but we could launch a large project this week, and commit to completing it over the next year. On 26 September 2013 11:10, billinghurst billinghu...@gmail.com wrote: Wouldn't we be better to take this as an indicator to what we can do in 2014, or what we could possibly start to present in 2014. Trying to achieve in a two day period may well be symbolic, though unfruitful. Regards, Billinghurst/ On Thu, 26 Sep 2013 09:53:49 +0700, John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote: A Facebook post from the State Library of New South Wales alerted me to this being Banned Books Week. http://www.bannedbooksweek.org/ https://www.facebook.com/hashtag/bannedbooksweek https://twitter.com/search?q=%23bannedbooksweek There is only two days left in the 'week'. What can we do to participate? My idea for an international project is to set up a latin transcription of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Index_Librorum_Prohibitorum I havent looked carefully for an online text, but it isnt immediately obvious that it has been transcribed already. ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l -- John Vandenberg ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l
[Wikisource-l] Fwd: [Wikitech-l] Bug 189: Add a music wikimodule resolved/fixed
Yay!! John Vandenberg. sent from Galaxy Note -- Forwarded message -- From: MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com Date: Apr 23, 2013 12:28 PM Subject: [Wikitech-l] Bug 189: Add a music wikimodule resolved/fixed To: Wikimedia developers wikitec...@lists.wikimedia.org Cc: Hi. https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=189 Congrats to all involved in getting bug 189 resolved! :-) Bug 189 was one of the oldest unresolved and one of the better known bugs in Bugzilla involving a request to add a music module to Wikimedia wikis. Quick stats about the bug: * Opened: 2004-08-22 * Votes: 48 * Comments: 123 The bug filer is still around and left a nice note on the bug (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=189#c123): --- Congratulations to all ! It makes my dream comes true today ! Thanks million times! --- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Note seemed like an easy target for demoing the newly deployed Score extension (https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Score) on a production site, if anyone's interested. I tried looking around for a point and click lilypond or ABC code generation tool (preferably Web-based), but a lot of these tools quickly went over my head. MZMcBride ___ Wikitech-l mailing list wikitec...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l
[Wikisource-l] Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] Distributed Proofreaders hits 25, 000 books scanned and proofread
-- Forwarded message -- From: David Gerard dger...@gmail.com Date: Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 4:27 AM Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Distributed Proofreaders hits 25, 000 books scanned and proofread To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List wikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org This is pretty awesome. http://www.pgdp.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=53404 - d. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list wikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- John Vandenberg ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l
[Wikisource-l] Fwd: [Wikimediauk-l] Victorian-era Dictionary of National Biography digitised on Wikisource
Congrats Charles for seeing this project through to completion, and the many others involved in. John Vandenberg. sent from Galaxy Note -- Forwarded message -- From: Stevie Benton stevie.ben...@wikimedia.org.uk Date: Feb 12, 2013 2:40 AM Subject: [Wikimediauk-l] Victorian-era Dictionary of National Biography digitised on Wikisource To: UK Wikimedia mailing list wikimediau...@lists.wikimedia.org Cc: Hello everyone, I write to let you know about a really interesting project on Wikisource. A group of volunteers, including Charles Matthews, has just finished digitising the Victorian-era Dictionary of National Biographyhttp://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Dictionary_of_National_Biography,_1885-1900. The project is the result of the efforts of over 30 volunteers since 2008 and has led to over 30,000 articles being added to Wikisource. Charles has put together a blog post about the project which can be seen herehttp://blog.wikimedia.org.uk/2013/02/victorian-era-dictionary-of-national-biography-digitised-on-wikisource/ . Thanks and regards, Stevie -- Stevie Benton Communications Organiser Wikimedia UK+44 (0) 20 7065 0993 / +44 (0) 7803 505 173 @StevieBenton Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.* ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l
[Wikisource-l] Fwd: [cultural-partners] kind of a partnership: Wikisource saves Lentapedia
Forwarding with permission. -- Forwarded message -- From: Анастасия Львова anastasia.lv...@wikimedia.ru Date: Jan 30, 2013 4:46 PM Subject: [cultural-partners] kind pf a partnership: Wikisource saves Lentapedia To: Wikimedia Chapters cultural partners coordination cultural-partn...@wikimedia.ch Cc: Good day, colleagues, I want to say about our small news: Lenta.ru, one of the most popular Russian language online resources with over 600 thousand visitors daily, have developed Lentapedia, an archive about popular news. It was very popular source for Russian Wikipedia articles, but some time ago the main Lenta's editor decided to stop updating the project because of lack of traffic and publish the project under cc-by-sa 3.0. Some days ago Lenta.ru changed it's design, and there isn't any place for Lentapedia in it, so we copied all materials from Lentapedia to Wikisourse; 1993 articles. As I said before, it's enough small news, but I hope it will be interesting there. Our post about it is there: http://wikimedia.ru/blog/2013/01/30/wikisource-spasaet-lentapedia/ -- regards, Lvova Anastasia ___ cultural-partners mailing list cultural-partn...@wikimedia.ch https://intern.wikimedia.ch/lists/listinfo/cultural-partners Please treat emails sent to this list as confidential.Ask senders for permission before forwarding emails off-list. ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l
Re: [Wikisource-l] Support of non-arabic page number in page namespace
Excellent improvements. Should we test them before they are deployed? John Vandenberg. sent from Galaxy Note On Sep 8, 2012 12:03 AM, Thomas PT thoma...@hotmail.fr wrote: Hi, For people that doesn't know me, I contribute to the French Wikisource and I try to improve the Proofread Page extension. Here is a description of some modification into Proofread Page that will be deployed sooner, I think next week. 1 I have made a patch in order to add support of not-arabic page number in the page namespace for languages that doesn't use arabic numerals: new pages of multi-pages books will now have a name with number in their own language. Existing pages can keep their names with arabic numerals or be renamed by hand or with a bot in order to use not-arabic numbers. The pagelist tag will links to pages with a localized number but, if the localized page doesn't exist and a page with an arabic number exist, pagelist will link to this page. The pages tag and the navigation inside of the page namespace will use the same system. So, with this system, nothing, I hope, will be broken in wikis. 2 I have added support of wiki links to proofreadpage_page_status message. 3 I have written a change that create prp-pagequality-[1-4] HTML classes and add them to all links to Page namespace. These classes are done in order to allow people to color all links to page namespace. The old quality[1-4] classes can of course be ever used in order to color these links only inside of Index namespace. So I hope that these improvments will increase ProofreadPage quality. Sorry for my poor English, Thomas (User:Tpt) ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l
Re: [Wikisource-l] @wikisource finally on Twitter!
Well done Amir! On Jul 20, 2012 5:07 AM, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: Hallo, For a while it bothered me that there's an account on Twitter called wikisource, which didn't actually belong to project we love, and which didn't publish any tweets. So I emailed the Foundation about it and voila: It is now an official Wikisource Twitter account: https://twitter.com/wikisource . It didn't publish anything yet, but the Foundation's communications people are probably planning something. If you have any ideas about using it to promote Wikisource, speak up! -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l
[Wikisource-l] Fwd: A Digital Dawn - online today to celebrate IWD
-- Forwarded message -- From: Donna Benjamin do...@digitisethedawn.org Date: Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 7:01 AM Subject: A Digital Dawn - online today to celebrate IWD To: digitisethedawn digitisethed...@gmail.com International Women's Day 2012 The Dawn is now available online. http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/title/252 Thank you all so much for playing your part in making this happen. -- Digitise The Dawn The campaign to digitise Louisa Lawson's Journal for Australian Women http://digitisethedawn.org http://twitter.com/digitisethedawn ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l
[Wikisource-l] Fwd: [Wikimediaindia-l] Sanskrit, scripts and Wikisource
-- Forwarded message -- From: Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com Date: Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 4:31 PM Subject: [Wikimediaindia-l] Sanskrit, scripts and Wikisource To: Wikimedia India wikimediaindi...@lists.wikimedia.org Hoi, Today the Sanskrit Wikisource will get WebFonts support. The Sanskrit Wikipedia already has it for some time and it works well for them. What will be different is that in the Wikisource, it will be possible to have original texts in the script as it was of at the time of first publication. According to the English language Wikipedia article and according to the Omniglot website Sanskrit is written in many scripts. When you google for the Brahmi script, you will find several fonts that are freely available. What is needed for us to use it in the Wikimedia Foundation is that these fonts are freely licensed and, that they pass the technical requirements of the Localisation team. Obviously when a font is available in WebFonts, it is available in any wiki that has WebFonts enabled. Thanks, Gerard http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.com/2012/03/sanskrit-sources-and-scripts.html http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.com/2012/03/sanskrit-wikisource-will-get-webfonts.html PS from my blogposts you will appreciate that there is an evolution in the awareness of what WebFonts can do for you :) ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list wikimediaindi...@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l
Re: [Wikisource-l] [Wikimediaindia-l] The Gujurati Wikisource
Gerard and Robin, It is great to see that the Proofread Page namespaces are going to recorded created at the beginning. Thank you for your efforts. The Page and Index namespaces must match the names in the Proofread Page messages, otherwise we end up with a mess. Gerard, would it be appropriate for the Proofread Page extension to also define messages for the Page_talk and Index_talk namespaces , so that they are all translated on translatewiki.net? On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 8:01 PM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Hoi, We are at the final phase for the request of a Wikisource for the Gujurati language. This is when we asked Ting Chen, the chair of the WMF board for approval and where we need technical information that enables the WMF ops people to create the wiki. Robin has made changes to the template we use for the request of new projects and we implemented this for the Gujurati Wikisource. We hope to get this information complete in record time so that we can inform you soon about the creation of the Gujurati Wikisource. Thanks, Gerard http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.com/2012/03/new-templates-for-new-wikimedia.html ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list wikimediaindi...@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- John Vandenberg ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l
[Wikisource-l] Australian Children’s Literature Digital Resources
http://www.austlit.edu.au/specialistDatasets/ChildLit/CLDR Children’s Literature Digital Resources incorporates primary texts published from white settlement to 1945, including children’s and young adult fiction, poetry, short stories, and picture books. This collection is supported by selected secondary material. ... They don't have many full-text items. Only one. http://www.austlit.edu.au/run?ex=ShowWorkworkId=C%23MU] Maybe we can do the transcription for them. ;-) https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Portal:Australia -- John Vandenberg ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l
[Wikisource-l] Fwd: [Gendergap] Statistics about gender gap
-- Forwarded message -- From: emijrp emi...@gmail.com Date: Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 12:11 AM Subject: Re: [Gendergap] Statistics about gender gap To: Increasing female participation in Wikimedia projects gender...@lists.wikimedia.org Here is the accumulate by project family http://toolserver.org/~emijrp/wmcharts/wmchart0013.html Wikiquote, Wikisource and Wikiversity are the winners. 2012/2/2 John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 11:05 AM, emijrp emi...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/2/2 Sarah Stierch sarah.stie...@gmail.com ... What else are people seeing in their chosen languages that might be interesting? Anything surprising? No. Only a few examples where women are 15-25% of edits some days but in small Wikipedias or sister projects. They are not representative. I think (hope..) you might find a high female participate rate even if you aggregate across all of the Wikisource projects. -- John Vandenberg ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l
Re: [Wikisource-l] [Foundation-l] There is a deadline
Very nice essay emijrp. I think this essay belongs on meta, as it pertains to the archival and curation of primary sources (Commons, Wikisource) rather than crowd sourced creation of secondary and tertiary sources (Wikipedia and Wikibooks). On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 12:43 AM, emijrp emi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all; I have written an essay (my first one)[1] about the idea There is a deadline. It is opposite to the old essay (from 2006) which holds that there is no deadline. I hope my redaction is good enough to explain my opinion about this topic. Please, if you find errors, fix them, I'm not very fluent in English. Thanks. Regards, emijrp [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:There_is_a_deadline ___ foundation-l mailing list foundatio...@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l -- John Vandenberg ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l
Re: [Wikisource-l] [Gendergap] Nudity vs Islam in Western Europe
On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 7:24 PM, paolo massa pa...@gnuband.org wrote: ... http://manypedia.com/#|en|Pregnancy|ar Very, very cool tool Paolo! Are you aware of the DoubleWiki extension? http://wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisource:DoubleWiki_Extension It has a similar problem at its heart, but is built with direct database access. It needs love. If you become bored with comparing Wikipedias, .. ;-) -- John Vandenberg ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l
[Wikisource-l] Fwd: [Foundation-l] Very sad news: PG founder Michael S. Hart has died
very sad news. rip. -- Forwarded message -- From: emijrp emi...@gmail.com Date: Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 9:52 AM Subject: [Foundation-l] Very sad news To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundatio...@lists.wikimedia.org Michael S. Hart has died http://www.gutenberg.org/wiki/Michael_S._Hart ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l
Re: [Wikisource-l] A Notable book in CC-BY-SA license and Malayalam wikisource
On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 8:22 PM, Shiju Alex shijualexonl...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, I am Shiju Alex and I am a Malayalam Wikisource volunteer - http://ml.wikisource.org For those who do not know, Malayalam is spoken in the state of Kerala in South India. We have a special case regarding a notable Malayalam book in Malayalam Wikisource. A notable writer of Malayalam (http://issuu.com/jdevika) is ready to release some of her notable works under free license (Both text and images) .. If this is done is any other language, can some one please share the links. http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Author:Rajiva_Wijesinha The permission should go through the OTRS process, and then be recorded on the author talk page like this. http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Author_talk:Rajiva_Wijesinha -- John Vandenberg ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l
Re: [Wikisource-l] who is dr.nate
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 10:55 AM, Moka Pantages mpanta...@wikimedia.org wrote: Thanks for looping me in, Casey. Not sure who Dr. Nate is. We can try to recover. Let me know what you want to do. The info@ team at Twitter is pretty responsive. Moka, I have spent a few hours trying to work out who it is, and I am pretty sure they are not a wikisourcerer. If you could recover this name, that would be good. It isn't urgent. -- John Vandenberg ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l
[Wikisource-l] who is dr.nate
Does anyone know who 'dr.nate' is? http://twitter.com/#!/wikisource See http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisource:Scriptorium#Twitter -- John Vandenberg ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l
Re: [Wikisource-l] Copyright status of scans
And the really short version is: We believe new scans of old works do not gain a new copyright, and *we* (the public) have not signed contracts with organisations which put scans online. However, in the UK there is a fear that the law will give new scans a new copyright, so we are more cautious. -- John Vandenberg ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l
Re: [Wikisource-l] [Foundation-l] Russian police probe Wikipedia for extremism
A longer piece about this: http://www.mn.ru/society/20101019/188137566.html -- John Vandenberg ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l
Re: [Wikisource-l] new statistics
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 6:12 AM, ThomasV thoma...@gmx.de wrote: One thing that I find disappointing is that the number of texts without scans still increases at en.ws (see the graph). In fact, it even increased at a rather alarming pace recently, if we balance the amount of new text created with our capability to proofread it. I also find it alarming, especially as it _feels_ wrong based on based on watching the project move towards pagescans. We have been a slow adopter. This suggests that the en.ws community, or at least an influential part of it, still considers texts without scans as a valuable addition for Wikisource. However, texts without scans are *harmful* to Wikisource. I long for the day when the vast majority of our texts are based on scans, however I disagree that texts without scans are, by that fact along, harmful. For example, here is one text that I find extremely useful, as Wikimedia Australia is incorporated under this law. http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Associations_Incorporation_Act_1981_%28Victoria%29 Scans are definitely crown copyright, so it isn't possible to upload scans. If anyone was to modify those pages, I receive an email of the change, and I would investigate it. That is 'Wikipedia' style quality assurance; it is not ideal, but it does suit my purposes. My view is that the problem with English Wikisource was that Wikipedians would come over to English Wikisource, dump the text and never come back. It is for this reason that I think we should change the default prefs so that all new pages are added to the watchlist, and changes on the watchlist send an email. -- John Vandenberg ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l
Re: [Wikisource-l] new statistics
Thanks Thomas. Spanish Wikisource is the big mover, with lots of new contributors coming and helping with one very large project: http://es.wikisource.org/wiki/Sesiones_de_los_Cuerpos_Lejislativos_de_la_Rep%C3%BAblica_de_Chile_%281810-1845%29 On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 1:41 AM, ThomasV thoma...@gmx.de wrote: Hello, As you might have noticed, the ProofreadPage statistics page has moved : http://toolserver.org/~thomasv/statistics.php This page accepts two parameters : daysago and diff. For example : *Statistics from 7 days ago : http://toolserver.org/~thomasv/statistics.php?daysago=7 *Difference between today and 7 days ago : http://toolserver.org/~thomasv/statistics.php?diff=7 Looking at the statistics of the recent days, it is possible to see that en.ws is now the subdomain with the highest number of pages proofread per day. (this is not already visible on the graph, because of the slow averaging. however, the trend is clear : http://toolserver.org/~thomasv/graphs/Wikisource_-_proofread_pages_per_day.png ) Thomas ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l
Re: [Wikisource-l] Parallel text alignment (was: Push translation)
On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 2:10 PM, Lars Aronsson l...@aronsson.se wrote: ... Is there any good free software for aligning parallel texts and extracting translations? Looking around, I found NAtools, TagAligner, and Bitextor, but they require texts to be marked up already. Are these the best and most modern tools available? there is a Mediawiki extension which is supposed to provide this: http://wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisource:DoubleWiki_Extension It is enabled on all wikisource subdomains. http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Crito?match=el It doesn't work very well because our Wikisource projects have different layouts, esp. templates such as the header on each page. -- John Vandenberg ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l
Re: [Wikisource-l] Proofreading
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 5:22 AM, Michael Jörgens joergens@googlemail.com wrote: Brigitte, this is simply stupid (No I'm not saying that your a stupid). We are talking abot 9 lines of code, and the communities, which want to stick to no IP's, have this by default, without any change in behaviour und usage. This extension is fully form fit function compatible to the existing system. There is no reason of technically forking, and I think the german language ws is the community with longest experience with the hard rules like -proofreading twice -the must of scans. I agree this is stupid. Where is the 9 lines of code? I want to review the code. -- John Vandenberg ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l
Re: [Wikisource-l] Proofreading
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 12:59 AM, Cecil cecila...@gmail.com wrote: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20812 Comments 16 and 17 Thank you. I dont like special rules being created for IPs and sysops. I have proposed that the extension use an access control matrix. It should be possible for projects to have differing number of stages. We should be able to configure it to have many stages like Distributed Proofreaders. If we did that, we could convince them to use our software ;-) I'd like to hear what ThomasV thinks about my proposal to make access control more generic. If it will make everyone happy again, I will write the code if nobody else wants to do it. -- John Vandenberg ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l
[Wikisource-l] Fwd: [Foundation-l] Commons reaches 5 million files
We should take this text and put it on Wikisource, and translate it into every language! http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Kj%C3%B8benhavnsposten_28_nov_1838_side_1.jpg -- Forwarded message -- From: Guillaume Paumier guillom@gmail.com Date: Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 12:21 AM Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Commons reaches 5 million files To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundatio...@lists.wikimedia.org Hello, On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Mathias Schindlermathias.schind...@gmail.com wrote: From a PR perspective, taking this image as the 5millionth one is a desaster, the only positive aspect is that it is honest to take that one instead of a shiny picture. Nah, we can use it to make a case for Wikisource and encourage libraries to provide high-quality scans! -- Guillaume Paumier [[m:User:guillom]] http://www.gpaumier.org ___ foundation-l mailing list foundatio...@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l
Re: [Wikisource-l] Proofreading
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 9:45 PM, Syagrius syagr...@gmx.fr wrote: This problem of proofreading IPs concerns the whole Wikisources. If all Wikisources don't have the same rules, what it the point to make a comparison with figures and graphics. For example, de.WS doesn't want to mark the empty pages as 'Without text', as en.WS and fr.WS did. It distorts the statistics... IP edits do not distort the statistics. The statistics are about the content of the pages, rather that who did the edits. If de.WS is confident that IPs can be trusted to validate pages, that means that their project community is better able to monitor their IP edits. I think allowing IPs to validate pages is sensible if the community is able to monitor it. I do not understand why de.WS does not want to mark empty pages as 'Without text'; that sounds like a different issue, and one which would distort statistics. Perhaps a de.WS contributor could explain the reason in a new thread; maybe we can learn from de.WS, or agree to disagree. -- John Vandenberg ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l
[Wikisource-l] Wikisource growth animation
http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikimedia/animations/growth/AnimationProjectsGrowthWs.html?canvas_width=800canvas_height=600 I like the linear graph better than the logarithmic graph. (lin vs log in the top left hand corner) -- John Vandenberg ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l
Re: [Wikisource-l] Strategic planning
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 3:36 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo)nemow...@gmail.com wrote: Andrea Zanni, 03/09/2009 19:17: We could develop an Extension that could use metadata standard as DublinCore (or others). Currently we have http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:OAIRepository installed. Does domebody know what it does? It is used for searching and mirroring, but it is password protected. It does provide dublin core, and I have documented what it provides. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:OAIRepository There is also dublin core RDF functionality in the core product, but it is disabled on wikimedia. http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgEnableDublinCoreRdf http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/RDF_metadata e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Hastings?action=dublincore Wikisource and Commons need the object (book, photo) to be described rather than the wiki page to be described. I have started a new proposal for this. https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/strategy/wiki/Proposal:Dublin_core -- John Vandenberg ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l
Re: [Wikisource-l] [Foundation-l] Universal Library
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 7:21 PM, Lars Aronssonl...@aronsson.se wrote: ... For example, a new project might download the database dump from OpenLibrary and start to weed out the junk records. But that junk sorting could also take place inside OpenLibrary. Why not? Because metadata without digital objects are next to useless. Worldcat already provides a directory of where physical books are held. A database of metadata with lots of duplicates and no means for the reader to fix them, and discuss them, is disrespectful. If a new project goes to a library to ask for a copy of their catalog, they might get the question we already gave (or didn't give) that to OpenLibrary, so how is your project any different? And what should the new project answer to that? See above. I dont see any value in going back to the libraries. Doing that would only end up with the same result that OpenLibrary has; it would be simpler to take the OpenLibrary dump. I want to encourage wikipedians and wikisourcerers to join the OpenLibrary project, just like you should also join OpenStreetMap and other good projects for free knowledge and information. Bring your experience. If you get tired of one project, as I do sometimes, work on another one for a while. Tell me _one_ thing that I can do at OpenLibrary that I can not do at Wikisource. OpenLibrary has author pages for 6.5 million author names. Some of these are junk duplicates that should be merged, but still there are quite a large number of authors there. These have a field for a Wikipedia URL, but only 1100 records have a value. Connecting author pages in OpenLibrary to Wikipedia biographies is just one way where we can do a lot, without needing to start a new project. _Most_ of them are duplicates. http://openlibrary.org/search?q=Jules+Gabriel+Verne I have an account at OpenLibrary, and I am responsible for 0.2% of the Wikipedia links :P I am not keen on becoming attached to a project that is littered with so much crap, especially when I am not given the tools required to fix the crap, nor do I have any say in whether more crap can be imported. http://openlibrary.org/user/jayvdb These two need to be merged. http://openlibrary.org/a/OL2296708A/Charles-C.-Nott http://openlibrary.org/a/OL2544127A/Charles-Cooper-Nott Both of them look terrible, because I have no control over the presentation of the pages. Dups, lack of sorting, etc. I haven't found the OpenLibrary coolaid; I'll stick with Wikisource, for good or ill. -- John Vandenberg ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l
Re: [Wikisource-l] [Foundation-l] Universal Library
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 6:58 AM, Birgitte SBbirgitte...@yahoo.com wrote: You two seem to be talking past each other. Might I suggest that perhaps the quality of information on OPL and/or Wikipdia/Wikisource sites is rather different depending on whether you are reading in French or English? I don't know if this is the case but it could explain the discrepancies between your experiences. That could be it. We cant hide the fact that the French Wikisource is leaps and bounds ahead of English Wikisource. ;-) I also suspect that David is heavily biased due to his predominately English Wikipedia experience. The underlying problem is that OL is approaching this from a traditional library perspective, and so is opening up slowly, and progress is slow and methodical. Wikisource is approaching the same goal with openness as a core philosophy, and progress is rapidly increasing. To some, it seems that OL will reach the holy grail first, however they have seeded their database with lots of junk records, and they don't have digital items for these. The reality is that there is a lot of bibliographic entries which are wrong, and this data is usually fixed once the object represented has be reviewed. Without digital objects, there is no way for the world to know which are duplicates and which are slightly different editions which should have different records. Even if someone out in the real world knows that there was only one edition in a given year, there is no mechanism for the community to merge records. Without digitial objects, OL is _directory_ of works held in other locations; but it is not a library. OTOH, Wikisource only has records for items that it has the full text for, which means it rarely has duplicates, and is much more like a library because people can actually read the text. And of course it has already has figured out a lot of the community process problems. I dont think Wikisource is on a logarithmic growth yet overall, however there are spurts of logarithmic growth like you can see on the Hebrew Wikisource. http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikisource/EN/PlotsPngArticlesTotal.htm Keep in mind that the stats for Wikisource domains need to be _combined_, as French works are on the French WS, and English works are on the English WS. The total growth is the sum of all of the projects - this isnt like Wikipedia where each project is intending to have the same content in different languages. -- John Vandenberg ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l
Re: [Wikisource-l] [ol-discuss] Open Library, Wikisource, and cleaning and translating OCR of Classics
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 3:00 PM, Samuel Kleinmeta...@gmail.com wrote: ... Let's take a practical example. A classics professor I know (Greg Crane, copied here) has scans of primary source materials, some with approximate or hand-polished OCR, waiting to be uploaded and converted into a useful online resource for editors, translators, and classicists around the world. Where should he and his students post that material? I am a bit confused. Are these texts currently hosted at the Perseus Digital Library? If so, they are already a useful online resource. ;-) If they would like to see these primary sources pushed into the Wikimedia community, they would need to upload the images (or DjVu) onto Commons, and the text onto Wikisource where the distributed proofreading software resides. We can work with them to import a few texts in order to demonstrate our technology and preferred methods, and then they can decide whether they are happy with this technology, the community, and the potential for translations and commentary. I made a start on creating a Perseus-to-Wikisource importer about a year ago...! Or they can upload the djvu to Internet Archive.. or a similar depositories... and see where it goes from there. Wherever they end up, the primary article about each article would surely link out to the OL and WS pages for each work (where one exists). Wikisource has been adding OCLC numbers to pages, and adding links to archive.org when the djvu files came from there (these links contain an archive.org identifier). There are also links to LibraryThing and Open Library; we have very few rules ;-) -- John Vandenberg ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l
[Wikisource-l] Wikisource statistics updated
http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikisource/EN/Sitemap.htm -- John Vandenberg -- Forwarded message -- From: Piotr Konieczny pio...@post.pl Date: Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 2:19 AM Subject: [Wiki-research-l] Wikipedia statistics updated To: wiki-researc...@lists.wikimedia.org This should be a cause of much rejoicing :D http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/TablesWikipediaEN.htm http://infodisiac.com/blog/2009/07/new-statistics-for-the-english-wikipedia/ http://infodisiac.com/blog/2009/07/new-statistics-for-the-english-wikipedia-2/ -- Piotr Konieczny The problem about Wikipedia is, that it just works in reality, not in theory. ___ Wiki-research-l mailing list wiki-researc...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l
Re: [Wikisource-l] extension collection
On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 7:32 PM, Marc Gallimarc...@orange.fr wrote: Hi, I have already pointed some problems with the collection extension (see mediawiki.org), but now I see a new one that is less acceptable than the others : when I ask for a pdf file on a page composed with some others pages, the list of contributors in the end of the file could be false, because the extension creates this list from the history of the main page... So, if you have only made edits on the namespace page, this extension will deny you all credits for your work. I think that this massive copyright violation is a good reason for asking to suppress this extension from Wikisource. This problem would occur whenever any transclusion occurs? If it is, this problem may affect many other projects. If it only happens when LST is used, it is a Wikisource specific problem. -- John Vandenberg ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l
Re: [Wikisource-l] Info/Law blog: Using Wikisource as an Alternative Open Access Repository for Legal Scholarship
Subject: [Foundation-l] Info/Law blog: Using Wikisource as an Alternative Open Access Repository for Legal Scholarship Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 16:41:45 +0100 From: David Gerard http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/infolaw/2009/06/19/using-wikisource-as-an-alternative-open-access-repository-for-legal-scholarship/ Interesting. How well does this fit with what Wikisource does? It has been published, and the ability to link to related documents is a feature of OA on Wikisource. I think we should be encouraging this, as the flow on effect is that scholars will work on transcriptions of those related texts which may not be available elsewhere on the Internet in an accessible manner. e.g. references to old journal articles which have been lost to time. I can understand German Wikisource not wanting to accept OA journal articles, as policing self-publishing will require more work. English Wikisource has a history of being the lower quality project, so we can be the test bed without any loss of quality. ;-) -- John Vandenberg ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l
[Wikisource-l] Wikisource features New Holland flora
A few days ago, the first Australian content was promoted to the front page of Wikisource, where it will stay for a month. http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Main_Page The project was started two years ago by Hesperian, who has done the majority of the work, with Moondyne validating the transcription, and Cygnis insignis has done some as well. http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/A_specimen_of_the_botany_of_New_Holland It is available as a PDF using the new Book tool: http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisource:Books/A_specimen_of_the_botany_of_New_Holland Also worth a browse is the species index pages that this team have been creating as a bibliography of works related to the flora of Australia. http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Category:Wikisource_species_index_pages The page scans for this work came from the National Library of France ([[w:Gallica]]). http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Index:A_Specimen_of_the_Botany_of_New_Holland.djvu A list of all featured texts can be seen here: http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisource:Featured_texts -- John Vandenberg ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l
Re: [Wikisource-l] Fwd: [gutvol-d] need a book scanned?
On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 11:17 AM, Klaus Graf klausg...@googlemail.com wrote: We (2 people from De Wikisource) have experience with that service. It takes more time than announced but there 20+ books scanned for us successfully. Unfortunately there is a very few selection of German books wich are in the Open Library - BPL has a lot of German books but it is sad that only a few are available for this great service. For English books the situation is much more better. When searching in the Open Library please note that all numbers given on the right side for scannable are wrong. You have to find catalog entries with at least scannable (1). Try e.g. search string German: scannable (1), but 183 books are scannable. It took me a while to understand what you meant. In case anyone else is having problems, search for German, and then click on scannable (1) on the right hand side, which then displays the 183 books, mostly in German language, which can be scanned. (I was trying to search on German: scannable (1), ... http://openlibrary.org/search?q=German%3A+scannable(1) ...and that wasnt working for me.) Clicking on Full text: available shows 6403 books that have already been scanned, however those results appear to be the same as available on archive.org. -- John Vandenberg ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l
Re: [Wikisource-l] Changing the Main Page
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 8:42 AM, Syagrius syagr...@gmx.fr wrote: The recent mass bot addition on Portuguese Wikisource (whose number of articles overtook French and Chinese) should make us think about changing the main page system. There was a discussion there : http://wikisource.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#Changing_the_main_page . Must we adopt the page views system, as Wikipedia did, http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikisource/EN/TablesPageViewsMonthly.htm ? Page views is based on the expectation that those views are *readers*, and is appropriate for Wikipedia which has become part of typical Internet usage the average person. A large percentage of our page views will be *editors* and *bots*. If we do go to page views, we might also want to weight the page views based on average page size. -- John Vandenberg ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l
Re: [Wikisource-l] Lecture of prof. Miran Hladnik at conference in Belgrade
On Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 5:17 AM, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com wrote: You may find it at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Slovene_student_projects_in_Wikipedia_and_Wikisource I have commented on the Wikisource aspect on the talk page. We need to set up Proofread Page on sl.ws, and demonstrate the technology to this group; it sounds like it will dovetail with their project needs very well. -- John Vandenberg ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l
[Wikisource-l] Fwd: [Wikitech-l] Upload filesize limit bumped
-- Forwarded message -- From: Brion Vibber [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 11:49 AM Subject: [Wikitech-l] Upload filesize limit bumped To: Wikimedia developers [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Now that we've got uploads running on our new, beefier file servers, I've experimentally bumped the upload limit from 20 to 100 megabytes. Files nearing the high end of that range might not actually succeed, though, as it'll be hitting post-size limits etc. As time goes on we'll be improving ways to upload large video files in particular... - -- brion -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkknVv4ACgkQwRnhpk1wk45HaQCgzH3rAHh9cvBUQtSt6FZtO0cF s+0AoNNBOGGA9S8vFE4AQqALJuCHVtUZ =YKTr -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Wikitech-l mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l
Re: [Wikisource-l] Archimedes Palimpsest Digital Release
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 2:28 PM, Brianna Laugher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I think this might be interesting (if not directly useful) to Wikisourcians: http://www.archimedespalimpsest.org/digitalproduct1.html A digital version of the Archimedes Palimpsest was released yesterday. Thanks Brianna. For context, these images hold the only copy of some of the works of Archimedes, and these images have been created by separating the original Archimedes text from the text which was written over the top of it in the 12th or 13th century. http://www.thewalters.org/news_art_museum/pressdetail.aspx?e_id=3 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archimedes_Palimpsest It has been put together into a Google Book, but there is no download link. http://books.google.com/books?id=_zX8OG3QoF4C If we want to work on this, we need to convert these images into a djvu file. Greek Wikisource has the Proofread Page extension set up and in working order, with a few pages of the Bible in place. http://el.wikisource.org/wiki/Index:The_New_Testament_in_the_original_Greek_-_1881.djvu They have written a nice document describing their filename conventions, which is necessary to understand in order to dig around in their image bank, and they already have TEI transcription files for most of the pages I have seen. http://archimedespalimpsest.net/Documents/Internal/FileNamingConventions.html http://archimedespalimpsest.net/Data/162v-155r/162v-155r_Arch32v_TEI_Netz-Wilson.xml It's licensed under CC-BY. http://archimedespalimpsest.net/0_ReadMe.html#rights-and-conditions-of-use Great. Images of 2000 year old writing being covered by a new copyright! :/ It appears as if researcher contributions can be licensed differently: http://archimedespalimpsest.net/ResearchContrib/ArchimedesDiagrams/FloatingBodies/ (non commercial) -- John Vandenberg ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l
Re: [Wikisource-l] Fwd: [Foundation-l] Old newspapers going to destruction
On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 1:10 PM, Ryan Dabler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have they tried contacting Google? Google News is now archiving actual newspapers for real-time browsing when you do an archive search on Google News. This seems like it'd be right up their alley. We dont know who has or hasnt been contacted. You can read more on foundation-l, butit is mostly just suggestions like contacting Google, IA, PG, DP, etc: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2008-September/046053.html And a few of us are collating facts and figures into a Wikinews story: http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Libricide_plans_on_ice_at_University_of_Oslo -- John ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l
Re: [Wikisource-l] help needed searching for pagescans and front covers
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 9:33 PM, Lars Aronsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Vandenberg wrote: On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 4:50 AM, Lars Aronsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In my opinion, translations (performed by wiki volunteers) should belong in Wikibooks and not in Wikisource, exactly because they are not (pre-existing, external) sources but creative efforts. That is a tough call. I havent seen a lot of discussion about this. Wikibooks is about creating new books. Wikisource is focused on old sources. Exactly, it all comes down to whether you consider a new translation to be a new book or an old source. We can have different opinions on this. My personal opinion is that translations are new books. For example, the Church of Sweden in 2000 replaced its old official Swedish Bible translation from 1917 with a new one. It does make a difference which text you cite. Also, the translation from 2000 is under copyright, while the 1917 is in the public domain and freely available online. http://sv.wikisource.org/wiki/Bibeln_1917 :-) Translations are a new work; no doubt about it. However, this is not an issue where I take a strong position, it's more of a philosophical issue for me. I'm not active in Wikibooks and have no wish to tell them what to do. I'm not really active in Wikisource either, except that I (user:LA2) three years ago tried to introduce page scanning in Wikisource by uploading [[The New Student's Reference Work]] and [[de:Meyers Blitz-Lexikon]]. Then you will be comforted to see this: http://wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisource:ProofreadPage_Statistics The German project now mandates pagescans for all contributions; I learnt this the hard way ;-) We have page quality indicators to indicate how much trust a person should have in the text. We are still young and undermanned, so there is much room for improvement on how we quantify and present this trust metric. I would think that it is important for Wikisource to be a reliable source, one that users can trust and believe to be faithful. Page scanning is a way to achieve this, because seeing is believing. Allowing freehand translations by unknown volunteers creates the same base for mistrust that Wikipedia suffers from. The same mistrust will occur whether the wiki-translation is on wikisource, wikibooks or wikipedia (which has thousands of Wiki translations without any clear evidence that it is a wiki translation). On Wikisource we require that all wiki translations are clearly marked as such. See the pages in here: http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Category:Wikisource_translations and our proposed guideline here: http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisource:Translations In my opinion, Wikisource will be better prepared to deal with the problems of wiki-translations, as the project rejects all other unpublished works. Our intention is not to accept new works, so people cant wiki-lawyer in order to keep a wild adaption of the original. Perhaps freehand commentaries (user:XYZ's commentary on the Bible) are the next step? Such books exist, just like translations do. And where they don't exist, should they be written? Within Wikisource? Annotations can be included on English Wikisource. Annotated editions cant be styled after the persons name. http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/WS:ANN A recently finished annotated work is: http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Copyright_Law_Revision_(House_Report_No._94-1476) See: http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Copyright_Law_Revision_(House_Report_No._94-1476)/Annotated -- John ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l
Re: [Wikisource-l] I want to donate the content of a rare photography book to Wikimedia.
On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 2:12 AM, Adam Cuerden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear everyone. I am in possession of a book, The University of Glasgow Old and New. (Partial details: http://special.lib.gla.ac.uk/exhibns/month/july2008.html ). My copy is #22 of 50, I believe there was also a cheaper edition of 150 or 250. I really want to make this available to Wikipedia, but need help: The book is relatively tightly bound, and the spine gets in the way of the scanner. I need someone with either a scanner that doesn't have a one-inch bit of plastic between the scanner bed and the edge of the scanner, thus cutting off the photos, or a photographer able to take high-quality photos of the photos. I would also like to donate copies of some very large (A0 and A1) medical posters, from the series Supplement to the Anatomy of Labour. These are a bit delicate, though not ridiculously so, but I'd be uncomfortable running them through a strip scanner. If someone has a sufficiently large flatbed, or can take photos of them, let's do this. Please help, I've been trying to get these to Wikipedia for 6 months now. It would be great to see these on commons wikisource; maybe a university library will have the facilities you need. It might be useful to ask at the en.wp Librarians WikiProject. Once you have the images, Wikisource people can help you bundle them into djvu files ready for OCR/transcription and proofreading. e.g. http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Index:Distinguished_Churchmen.djvu http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Index:A_Treatise_on_Electricity_and_Magnetism_-_Volume_1.djvu -- John ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l
Re: [Wikisource-l] [WikiEN-l] EB1911 in Wikipedia
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 2:16 AM, Tim Starling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Vandenberg wrote: Hi, I've been told that a large percentage of the EB1911 sits within the history of English Wikipedia, and a during a recent discussion about EB1911 here few checks indicate that this is possibly true, and that the EB1911 text imported into Wikipedia is from a decent transcription. In the following very long discussion, there are a two tables consisting of five Wikipedia articles starting with A and B, a link to the Wikipedia revision consisting of the EB1911 text, a link to the copy now on Wikisource, and a link to the pagescan (set up by Tim Starling): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Plagiarism I am interested in piecing together the history of the EB1911 import, because if this was as extensive as some claim, hidden in Wikipedia is possibly the best and most complete available transcription of EB1911, and I would like to work out a good algorithm to pull it out and put it on Wikisource, which has slowly been building an online copy that is true to the original. Or maybe we can find whoever imported it, and re-use the import files. This will benefit Wikipedia, as it will allow readers and editors to determine what parts of those Wikipedia article have not been altered since 1911, which will act as a caution flag for readers, and a todo item for editors. There is a WikiProject to go back and verify all of the articles imported from EB1911; this task can be better distributed if the task if the reader can see the original text without a degree in wiki-archeology. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:EB1911 The relevant Wikisource pages people may way to look at are: http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/EB1911 and the project page for that effort is at http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/WS:EB1911 and the complete set of scans in TIFF and PNG; I recommend installing the TIFF plugin, as those images are a joy to view and the plugin has a nice zoom interface. http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/User:Tim_Starling The scan was never meant to just sit on my user page, Wikisource community members were meant to copy it to some relevant location and make links to it. They apparently didn't figure this out. I wrote the scanset extension for the benefit of all of Wikisource, not just for my user space. You can find the details of the origin of the scan in my original mailing list post about the subject. The scan was made and distributed by a person who, for religious reasons, wanted to see this material disseminated as widely as possible. The scan was distributed as a CD set at low cost, and on the CD set, it was stated that there were no restrictions. The contents of the CD were put up on a website, with the website's name discreetly overlaid in a corner of the TIFF image. A Wikipedian downloaded them and send them to me. I made a script to blank out the website name and convert the images to PNG. The result is the version that we currently host. There are now many incoming URL links to those pagescan sets. If we move the index pages, and keep the redirect, will those links continue to function? It would be lovely if we can integrate the EB1911 scanset with the Wikisource side-by-side proofreading interface, extension Proofread Page. e.g. http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Index:H.R._Rep._No._94-1476 http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Index:Wind_in_the_Willows_%281913%29.djvu http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Index:A_Treatise_on_Electricity_and_Magnetism_-_Volume_1.djvu -- John ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l
[Wikisource-l] Fwd: [B-Greek] Codex Sinaiticus
-- Forwarded message -- From: Bryant J. Williams III [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 2:36 PM Subject: [B-Greek] Codex Sinaiticus To: B Greek [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear List, http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.viewpageId=70242 Below is the copy of the article regarding Codex Sinaiticus. I CAN'T WAIT! En Xristwi, Rev. Bryant J. Williams III MUCH ABOUT HISTORY Oldest New Testament Bible coming online Codex Sinaiticus will be available on Web starting Thursday Posted: July 21, 2008 9:30 pm Eastern (c) 2008 WorldNetDaily Codex Sinaiticus One of history's oldest copies of the Bible will be accessible to millions of people around the world soon – 1,600 years after it was first penned on calfskin parchment by early Christians in Egypt. The University of Leipzig announced more than 100 pages of the Codex Sinaiticus, the 4th century manuscript of the Greek Bible containing the oldest complete New Testament, will be available online for the first time Thursday. According to a Reuters report, high resolution photographs of the Gospel of Mark, Old Testament books and original comments on the text will be available on the project website. Director Ulrich Johannes Schneider of Leipzig University Library said online availability if the Codex Bible will give anyone who has access to Internet services the ability to review an entire manuscript of fundamental significance to Christianity by next July. A manuscript is going onto the net which is like nothing else online to date, Schneider told the news agency. It's also an enrichment of the virtual world – and a bit of a change from YouTube. English and German translations will be offered to people who are not able to read Greek. Schneider said the Codex Sinaiticus and the Codex Vaticanus are thought to be the oldest manuscripts of the Bible. Saint Catherine's Monastery at the foot of Mount Sinai in Egypt, one of the oldest Christian monasteries in the world, sent the calfskin text to Europe after German biblical scholar Konstantin von Tischendorf found it there in 1844. Tischendorf was granted permission to take some of the manuscripts to Leipzig, Germany, but he went back to Saint Catherine's Monastery in 1859 and kept the largest section of the 1,460-page Bible for St. Petersburg, Russia. According to the report, it was stored there until Josef Stalin sold 694 pages to the British Museum. The first section was clearly a gift to Tischendorf, but that's not so clear in the case of the second portion, Schneider said. The monks all signed a contract at the time, but the rumor persists that they were given a raw deal. And there is probably some truth to this. Though reportedly missing nearly half the Old Testament, the first Codex can now be found in four places across Europe and the Middle East. Leipzig University Library, the Russian National Library, the British Library and Saint Catherine's Monastery plan to begin the task of making the Codex Sinaiticus available on the Internet and providing specific details on its condition. I think it's just fantastic that thanks to technology we can now make the oldest cultural artifacts – ones that were once so precious you couldn't show them to anyone – accessible to everyone, in really high quality, Schneider said. For your security this Message has been checked for Viruses as a courtesy of Com-Pair Services! --- B-Greek home page: http://www.ibiblio.org/bgreek B-Greek mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/b-greek ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l
Re: [Wikisource-l] Autoupdate into the database
On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 5:14 PM, Aelxander Schwarz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi NG! I wannt to insert an article into the Mysql database without clicking the frontend. Is it possible and how? greetz Alex It is not possible to insert pages directly into the database, but there are many tools which can be used to automatically load pages into the database via the front end. For example, this is what I usually use: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Pagefromfile.py from the framework called pywikipediabot http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Pywikipediabot You do not need python skills to be able to run that script, and I can give you more detailed instructions if you want to go down this path. -- John ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l
[Wikisource-l] Fwd: [gmonthly] World eBook Fair July 4-August 4
Wikisource is not mentioned :( -- Forwarded message -- From: Greg Newby [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 6:48 PM Subject: [gmonthly] World eBook Fair July 4-August 4 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] A Million Plus Books Free for the Taking! July 4 2008 The Third Annual World eBook Fair Starts July 4th. Own Your Own Library is the theme of this year's World eBook Fair. Starting July 4th you will be able to do just that in an unprecedented opportunity to download books in the widest variety ever available. Visit www.worldebookfair.org to get started. Project Gutenberg and partner sponsors encourage readers to create the personal library of their choice in a personal computer. Most of the fair's electronic books are free of charge, and an additional 160,000 or more have coupon or discount purchases available during the month. All possible types of electronic books, or eBooks, are available: eBooks in over 100 Different Languages! eBooks designed for cell phones! eBooks designed for Adobe readers! eBooks designed for plain text readers! eBooks out loud in theatrical performances! eBooks that your computer can read aloud to you! eBooks that can be easily quoted in school papers! 160,000 eBooks in brand new commercial editions!!! Music, movies, etc. are also included. . . . Highlights of the World eBook Fair Just two years ago The First World eBook Fair came on the scene with about 1/3 million books, doubled to 2/3 million in 2007, and now over one million. Created by contributions from 100+ eLibraries from around the world, here are the largest collections As of press date of midnight Central Daylight Time July 1, 2008 these were the approximate numbers: ~100,000+ from Project Gutenberg ~500,000+ from The World Public Library ~450,000 from The Internet Archive ~160,000 from eBooks About Everything -- ~1,210,000+ Grand Total as of July 1, 2008 The Internet Archive will add about 1,000 books on each business day, along with various additions by the other contributors during World eBook Fair. Thus the final grand total may be over 1,230,000 Contact information: If you have any questions, or seek further materials, an interview or would like to confirm the schedule or contents please feel free to contact any of the following: Michael S. Hart Founder, Project Gutenberg 405 W. Elm, Urbana, IL 61801 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] US Phone 217-344-6623 Cellphone 808-295-0615 Gregory B. Newby CEO, Project Gutenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] US Phone 907-450-8663 http://www.gutenberg.org John Guagliardo Founder, World Public Library Honolulu, Hawaii [EMAIL PROTECTED] US Phone 808-292-2068 http://www.worldpubliclibrary.org Catherine Hodge eBooks About Everything [EMAIL PROTECTED] US Phone 760-327-5100 http://ebooksabouteverything.com The Internet Archive http://www.archive.org/details/texts ___ gmonthly mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.pglaf.org/listinfo.cgi/gmonthly ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l
[Wikisource-l] Latin Wikisource governance
As a result of the foundation-l thread about Latin Wikinews[1], I started looking into how Latin Wikisource was going. The 'crat has left the project[2], and Accurimbono, who is the only other sysop (other than developer ThomasV), has been away for a month[3] and isn't responding to user talk or email. I am putting up my hand to be a sysop so we have some immediate traction, and hoping that Accurimbono is able to take on the role of 'crat. Anyone with suffrage on Latin Wikisource, please participate in determining how we re-establish governance of the project without a 'crat.[4] Also, if someone has a firm grasp on Latin, a notice on the Latin Wikipedia would be useful.[5] 1. http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2008-June/044160.html 2. http://la.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Disputatio_Usoris:Personnecurid=6599diff=25108oldid=25107 3. http://la.wikisource.org/wiki/Specialis:Conlationes/Accurimbono 4. http://la.wikisource.org/wiki/Vicifons:Scriptorium#request_for_volunteers 5. http://la.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vicipaedia:Taberna -- John Vandenberg ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l
Re: [Wikisource-l] Newsweek article on the Wiki Bible project
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 12:31 PM, Ray Saintonge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Vandenberg wrote: http://www.newsweek.com/id/141516 It would be nice if they had credited Wikisource for this instead of Wikipedia. The way the article stands, potential additional translators won't be able to find it. It gets worse .. The wikisource project is being confused with another wiki bible project: http://www.badthinking.com/2008/06/wiki-bible-project.html That project appears to be more concerned with Google Rank than anything else: http://thewikibible.pbwiki.com/The+Wiki+Bible+Project+News They do have translations of the Bible, including chapters which we do not have, but I couldnt quickly see what copyright status this work has. http://thewikibible.pbwiki.com/AllPages http://thewikibible.pbwiki.com/1+Corinthians+10 http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Bible_%28Free%29/1_Corinthians -- John ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l
[Wikisource-l] Newsweek article on the Wiki Bible project
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[Wikisource-l] Wikisource Free Bible in the blogshere; Fwd: Google Alert - wikisource
Below are two links to a cross-posted blog entry about the Wikisource Free Bible project. Each forum has separate discussion going on. -- John -- Forwarded message -- From: Google Alerts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, May 30, 2008 at 8:17 AM Subject: Google Alert - wikisource To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Google News Alert for: wikisource Pitfalls of the Wiki Bible Project The Jewish Journal of greater L.A - Los Angeles,CA,USA The folks at Wikisource have a new project bound to stir up controversy. It's called the Wiki Bible Project, and it aims to create an original, ... See all stories on this topic Google Blogs Alert for: wikisource Wikimedia Foundation By Wikimedia Foundation ... an encyclopedia of quotations named Wikiquote, a repository of source texts in any language named Wikisource, and a collection of e-book texts for students (such as textbooks and annotated public domain books) named Wikibooks. ... Newest Learning Object at NEEDS - http://www.needs.org What's wrong with a Wiki Bible? By Brad Greenberg The folks at Wikisource have a new project bound to stir up controversy. It's called the Wiki Bible Project, and it aims to create an original, open content translation of the Bible, by the people for the people. ... Christianity Today Liveblog - http://blog.christianitytoday.com/ctliveblog/ Obama has told his Auschwitz story before By Moneyrunner(Moneyrunner) Here is a link to the speech as quoted in Wikisource. In the speech reveals his priorities: not he worldwide battle against Islamofascism. A battle that is not contained in a single man, Osama, but is contained in a creed that is ... The Virginian - http://moneyrunner.blogspot.com/ MAY 2008 # 44 http://www.gutenberg.org/wiki/Main_Page. http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Main_Page. http://www.4literature.net/. http://mediainformatics.biz/kidsbook/. Afficher ce coloriage Chiffres Ours Afficher ce coloriage Chiffres Ours. NeigeTropicale - http://fr.blog.360.yahoo.com/blog-vyQHfLQ_fq8T1R8gdOPdkeyWJb8L4w--?cq=1 This once a day Google Alert is brought to you by Google. ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l
Re: [Wikisource-l] wikisource meeting?
On 4/13/07, Jesse Martin (Pathoschild) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I would attend if possible. #wikisource would be the ideal channel for such a meeting. I would watch and learn. -- John ___ Wikisource-l mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l
