Re: [Wikisource-l] Stepping down as an admin for the list

[Mardetanha]

.hey Andrea
it is very nice to hear from you and it is also very upsetting to learn you
are not active as before, if you need help I can help you with mailing
list, but please stay
Mardetanha


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> Hello everyone,
> it's few years that I'm no longer involved in Wikimedia (at least not as
> much as before), but I'm still admin of a few lists ;-)
>
> Does anyone want to take care of this one?
> I'm not doing a good job and would love to let others curate it more than
> I do.
>
> Let me know.
> Cheers,
>
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Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikisource Community User Group 2019 report

[Mardetanha]

Thanks

On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 2:38 PM Ankry  wrote:

> Dear subscribers,
>
> the 2019 report of Wikisource Community User Group is ready:
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikisource_Community_User_Group/2019_Report
>
> Thank you very much to all who helped with the work on it.
>
> Best regards,
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Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikisource Conference in Warsaw 2020/2021

[Mardetanha]

I am also happy to hear such good news. and Thanks for WMPL for support and
help.
Mardetanha


On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 12:28 PM Garád, Claudia 
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> this is great news - I'm really excited by the prospect of a Wikisource
> Conference in Warsaw!
>
> WMAT has already had a long call with Nathalia to share our experiences
> from organising the 2015 edition and of course we are here to support the
> next conference as best as we can!
>
> Cheers
>
> Claudia
>
>
> Am 17.12.2019 um 05:43 schrieb Bodhisattwa Mandal:
>
> Hi Ankry,
>
> Thanks for taking up the initiative to organise the much needed
> conference. Wikisource is now a much more visible project in India compared
> to 2015, when we participated in the last conference. It's gaining
> importance within the Indian academic and librarian circles. We already
> have some partnerships in different parts of India and hopefully there will
> be a major partnership news coming soon regarding Wikisource .
>
> Anyway, in this regard, I personally feel 2021 is bit far away. If this is
> not much a problem for WMPL or the user group, we can go for Autumn 2020 as
> it would be great for Indian communities to interact with the larger
> community and gain more knowledge at this vital time of growth. Please be
> assured, that any help needed from our side as Indian Wikisource
> communities and affiliates supporting Wikisource projects will be provided
> whenever needed.
>
> Regards,
> Bodhisattwa
>
>
> On Tue, 17 Dec 2019, 04:51 Ankry,  wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> As some of you already noticed, we were talking on Saturday not only
>> about Wikimedia Summit, but also about plans concerning Wikisource
>> Conference sequel. The first Wikisource Conference took place in Vienna in
>> 2015. Maybe, five years later, it is good time to organize the next event?
>>
>> The only way for this to happen is to receive a grant from WMF. Recently,
>> I have got a confirmation from my chapter that Wikimedia Polska is
>> willing to help us to apply for the grant and to organize Wikimedia
>> Conference in Warsaw as a fiscal sponsor
>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Fiscal_sponsorships>. (AFAIK
>> this is the same procedure that was applied to the conference in Vienna).
>>
>> What they need from us? We need:
>>
>>- to organize various commitees (Organizing Commitee, Program
>>Commitee, Grant Comission, etc); the discussion on Saturday showed that
>>there are people among us who want help in theese. Of course the more
>>people, the better
>>- to decide *when we want the Conference*. There are two possible
>>dates: Autumn 2020 (likely September) and Spring 2021 (likely May); we 
>> need
>>to decide which one is preferred and the decision is a bit urgent as for
>>the near term the deadline for grant application is 10 February (however 
>> it
>>is a realistic plan). At the moment this question is crucial
>>- to estimate how many people wish to participate in the Conference
>>
>> The person supporting us from WMPL is Natalia.
>>
>> We have prepared a short survey that should help us to find response to
>> the above questions. The survey is here:
>>
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSe-0WGvjrt1UcHhAl-CMtNps85m28R22a6CFkai_cH86k44rw/viewform
>>
>> Please, fill it if you are interested in participating the Conference.
>>
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Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikisource at the Wikimedia Summit 2020

[Mardetanha]

Good, i will do my best to join you.

On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 1:51 PM Nicolas VIGNERON 
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> So according to the framadate (https://framadate.org/DWcnhfcsWQRjFKhP) we
> have equality for Saturday and Sunday but Mohsen didn't vote and said he
> preferred Saturday (IIRC).
> If there is no objection, then the meeting is tomorrow Saturday at 13:00
> (1 pm) UTC (time conversion:
> https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html?iso=20191214T13=195=176=263
> ).
>
> The meeting will be at this URL: https://meet.jit.si/WCUG (just click the
> link, no account needed ; you may get a "Browser warning" but most of the
> time it's relevant, the Jitsi devs are tweaking things right now
> apparently).
> We will take notes on this pad: https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/WCUG
> (I already included the four questions about Movement Strategy, is that
> the "essay" you are talking about Jim? ping @Bodhisattwa and @Mohsen as you
> two are in Strategy working groups your input would be valuable, feel free
> to comment in the pad before the meeting ;) ).
>
> See you tomorrow!
>
> Cheers, ~nicolas
>
>
> Le mar. 10 déc. 2019 à 20:23, J Hayes  a écrit :
>
>> Yes, I concur.
>> I am concerned that the conference will be used to rubber stamp strategic
>> plan.
>> There is some unrest among other affiliates, that they are not feeling
>> the resource support from WMF. And that WMF does not collaborate well with
>> others.
>> (Which goes unmentioned in strategic plan)
>> also you may need to don your "corporate speak" hat in the essay
>> responses to get invited.
>>
>> Cdmt, slowking
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 10, 2019, 1:08 PM Bodhisattwa Mandal <
>> bodhisattwa.rg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Nicolas,
>>>
>>> In this summit, we need an experienced Wikisourcer who can strongly
>>> advocate for the project, so that the project and it's communities does not
>>> get left behind or forgotten during the implementation phase of strategy.
>>> This year, we need to send someone who can opine in the implementation
>>> discussion in such a way, that it is at least ensured on paper, that
>>> Wikisource will get the support it deserves. It is also needed to
>>> strategize for Wikisource for future w.r.t. knowledge equity.
>>>
>>> Personally I think, you are one of the best persons, we have, to
>>> represent the entire community and if you decide to go, you have my very
>>> strong support.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Bodhisattwa
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, 10 Dec 2019, 19:37 balaji,  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>> Thanks Vigneron for starting this up for timely discussion. We need to
>>>> discuss how and what to present about our group in the conference. We need
>>>> to take into account about experience, opportunity for people, full
>>>> availability for the conference.(Not like the same person representing
>>>> wikisource also doing other activities in conference), etc while selecting
>>>> the people.
>>>>
>>>> p.s. This year I wont be able to travel during that time. So i am not a
>>>> candidate.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Balaji.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 6:12 PM Nicolas VIGNERON <
>>>> vigneron.nico...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> According to the reports :
>>>>> - 2014 : Micru and Aubrey
>>>>> - 2015 : Micru and Aubrey
>>>>> - 2016 and 2017 : Aubrey
>>>>> - 2018 : Balajijagadesh and VIGNERON
>>>>> - 2019 : Gurlal Maan
>>>>>
>>>>> @Mardetanha and the others: is Friday or Saturday better for you?
>>>>> I started a poll to find the best day:
>>>>> https://framadate.org/DWcnhfcsWQRjFKhP (feel free to comment).
>>>>>
>>>>> Cdlt, ~nicolas
>>>>>
>>>>> Le mar. 10 déc. 2019 à 13:24, Mardetanha 
>>>>> a écrit :
>>>>>
>>>>>> and do we have the list of previous year participants?
>>>>>> I am not sure if I can join Sunday, as it is working day in Iran but
>>>>>> I will do my best
>>>>>> Mardetanha
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 2:27 PM Nicolas VIGNERON <
>>>>>> vigneron.

Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikisource at the Wikimedia Summit 2020

[Mardetanha]

Friday is the best time for me but I will try to be as flexible as
possible. and thanks for the list.

Mohsen
Mardetanha


On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 4:11 PM Nicolas VIGNERON 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> According to the reports :
> - 2014 : Micru and Aubrey
> - 2015 : Micru and Aubrey
> - 2016 and 2017 : Aubrey
> - 2018 : Balajijagadesh and VIGNERON
> - 2019 : Gurlal Maan
>
> @Mardetanha and the others: is Friday or Saturday better for you?
> I started a poll to find the best day:
> https://framadate.org/DWcnhfcsWQRjFKhP (feel free to comment).
>
> Cdlt, ~nicolas
>
> Le mar. 10 déc. 2019 à 13:24, Mardetanha  a
> écrit :
>
>> and do we have the list of previous year participants?
>> I am not sure if I can join Sunday, as it is working day in Iran but I
>> will do my best
>> Mardetanha
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 2:27 PM Nicolas VIGNERON <
>> vigneron.nico...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> To make it clear, I'm candidate to go to the Summit.
>>> I'm not sure if I'm the best person to represent this user group (UG) as
>>> the Summit is a « focused event for conversations on Movement Strategy »
>>> and I'm not always good at Strategy (especially for such a broad group like
>>> this UG, indeed we need priorities, hence this meeting ;) ). That said, I
>>> have a long experience of Wikisource, I was the representative for this UG
>>> in 2018 so I'm not the worst person either ;)
>>>
>>> For the meeting, I'm also available this week. I guess to gather the
>>> most people sunday at 1 pm UTC (13:00) is probably the best for everyone (
>>> https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html?iso=20191213T13=195=176=263
>>> ).
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> ~nicolas
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Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikisource at the Wikimedia Summit 2020

[Mardetanha]

and do we have the list of previous year participants?
I am not sure if I can join Sunday, as it is working day in Iran but I will
do my best
Mardetanha


On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 2:27 PM Nicolas VIGNERON 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> To make it clear, I'm candidate to go to the Summit.
> I'm not sure if I'm the best person to represent this user group (UG) as
> the Summit is a « focused event for conversations on Movement Strategy »
> and I'm not always good at Strategy (especially for such a broad group like
> this UG, indeed we need priorities, hence this meeting ;) ). That said, I
> have a long experience of Wikisource, I was the representative for this UG
> in 2018 so I'm not the worst person either ;)
>
> For the meeting, I'm also available this week. I guess to gather the most
> people sunday at 1 pm UTC (13:00) is probably the best for everyone (
> https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html?iso=20191213T13=195=176=263
> ).
>
> Cheers,
> ~nicolas
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Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikisource at the Wikimedia Summit 2020

[Mardetanha]

This is a very good idea, do we know how many people are interested? if you
are interested please put your name here that we can discuss, (I am
personally not a candidate this year)

Mardetanha


On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 11:53 AM Nicolas VIGNERON <
vigneron.nico...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> This year again, we need to select the representative of the Wikisource
> Community User Group to the Wikimedia Summit 2020. This year summit is even
> more focused on strategy and the deadline is December 16.
>
> There was some issues with last year process (as pointed by Gurlal report)
> and time is short, so I think the best would be an online meeting sometimes
> this week (when ?).
> Who is interested and available ? (both for the meeting but also to go to
> Berlin).
>
> Cheers,
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Re: [Wikisource-l] Affiliate-selected Board seats

[Mardetanha]

the easiest way would be to have an internal telegram poll and then vote
based on that
Mardetanha


On Sun, May 12, 2019 at 10:58 PM Nicolas VIGNERON <
vigneron.nico...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> The voting period is now open.
> Do we want to want to vote as a group? (I'm a bit concerned no-one even
> aswered my previous email :/ ) and if so, how should we procede? I was
> thinking about an internal vote, and take the results but I fear there will
> be too few votes to be representative of the group. I need you, *we *and *you
> *need you!
> So the big question is: should I launch the internal vote and is anyone
> interrested? (for obvious reasons, it would be good that someone assist me
> to make sure everything is going fine).
>
> For information, there is 12 candidates (listed with statements on
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliate-selected_Board_seats/2019/Nominations,
> including the two seats whose terms have expired) and as remarked, none «
> mentioned Wikisource specifically in their candidate statement » (source:
> https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisource:News/2019-05 ).
>
> Cheers,
> Nicolas Vigneron
>
> Le mer. 17 avr. 2019 à 13:57, Nicolas VIGNERON 
> a écrit :
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> As you may know, the election of the Affiliate-selected Board seats
>> (ASBS) has begun.
>> We, as the Wikisource Community User Group, can take part in this
>> election and elected two person to the Board of Trustees of the Wikimedia
>> Foundation.
>> The meta page
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliate-selected_Board_seats/2019 give
>> some lengthy informations, here is a quick summary:
>> - since April 15 and until April 30, people will candidate to seat at the
>> board, at this step we can ask question to candidates and *endorse* two
>> candidates.
>> - between May 8 and May 31, we can vote.
>>
>> For this whole process, I am the primary contact but we *all* make the
>> decision, I'm merely the messenger of the group here.
>>
>> Here is how I suggest to proceed:
>> - right now, write together questions and criteria for candidate we want
>> to endorse (WMNL shared this table to help
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Assessing_candidates_for_the_Affiliate-selected_Board_seats_of_the_Board_of_Trustees.pdf
>> but it's very general, we should adapt it to this usergroup needs ; here is
>> copy of this table https://lite.framacalc.org/asbs2019-wcug we can work
>> on). You can also ask question in your own name.
>> - in May, we vote for the candidates inside the user group (not sure how
>> to best handle this part, I would prefer it to be public but we can do it
>> in private too) and then, I will take the results and vote in the name of
>> the user group.
>> - is anyone interested to be the secondary contact? (I'm a bit busy so I
>> could use some help ;) )
>> - if you feel the need, we can do an online meeting to talk about it, but
>> as we are scattered all around the globe, finding a good timeslot is
>> challenging. Would anyone be interested? (or is this mailing list enough?)
>> - obviously, any question, idea, remark, suggestion are welcome!
>>
>> Cheers,
>> ~nicolas
>>
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Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikimedia Summit report

[Mardetanha]

Agreed

On Wed, Apr 3, 2019 at 11:57 PM Bodhisattwa Mandal <
bodhisattwa.rg...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> As the Wikimedia Summit 2019 ended recently, it would be great if the
> representative from Wikisource User Group can share his experience and
> submit a report.
>
> Regards
> Bodhisattwa
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Re: [Wikisource-l] Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2018 - Registration closes in one month!

[Mardetanha]

sorry to bring this old thread but we need to update with reporting for
this eligibility. can some please update this and we need to find our
representative for this.


https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Summit_2019/Eligibility_Criteria

Thanks

Mohsen

On Sun, Jan 14, 2018 at 11:46 PM balaji  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Just for information, I did my registration today.
>
> Cheers
> J. Balaji
> (User:Balajijagadesh)
>
> On Sat, Jan 13, 2018 at 9:03 PM, Nicolas VIGNERON <
> vigneron.nico...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Just for information, I did my registration yesterday ;)
>>
>> Cdlt, ~nicolas
>>
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Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikisource meetup in Wikimania

[Mardetanha]

agreed

Mardetanha

On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 9:41 PM, balaji  wrote:

> we should plan...
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 9:44 PM Bodhisattwa Mandal <
> bodhisattwa.rg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Any plan for Wikisource meetup during Wikimania this year?
>>
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Re: [Wikisource-l] Community Tech new hire

[Mardetanha]

Good news

Mardetanha

On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 8:32 AM, Jayanta Nath <jayanta...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Good news for Wikisource Community. Cheers!!
>
> Jayanta
>
> On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 3:27 PM, Bodhisattwa Mandal <
> bodhisattwa.rg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Sam,
>>
>> Congratulations for joining the community tech team.
>>
>> And also many many thanks for what all you have done for the OCR issue of
>> Indic Wikisource communities. It's because of amazing people like you,
>> Kaldari and Shrinivasan, the crisis is almost over and the projects have
>> got the much-needed momentum.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>> Bodhisattwa
>> On Sep 16, 2016 12:53 PM, "Thomas Tanon" <thoma...@hotmail.fr> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Sam,
>>>
>>> Congratulations! That's amazing! I really hope you will be able to keep
>>> making the Wikisource tech backlog lower [1].
>>>
>>> Congrats again,
>>>
>>> Thomas
>>>
>>> [1] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/wikisource/
>>>
>>>
>>> > Le 16 sept. 2016 à 05:23, Sam Wilson <s...@samwilson.id.au> a écrit :
>>> >
>>> > Hi all,
>>> >
>>> > I've recently started working on the Community Tech team
>>> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Tech at the Wikimedia
>>> > Foundation. So I just wanted to say hi and that I'm really excited to
>>> be
>>> > able to work on Wikimedia code full-time! :-)
>>> >
>>> > Community Tech is all about helping build tools that support
>>> > contributors, and basically takes its work-list from the annual
>>> > Community Wishlist Survey:
>>> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/2015_Community_Wishlist_Survey/Results
>>> >
>>> > For the last couple of weeks I've been working on a tool to bring
>>> better
>>> > OCR to indic-language Wikisources, via Google's Cloud Vision API:
>>> > https://wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisource:Google_OCR
>>> >
>>> > I'm not at all exclusively working on Wiksource stuff of course, not by
>>> > a long shot. But that's still where my personal interest lies, and so
>>> if
>>> > anyone's got any ideas about future software development that we need
>>> > then I'm keen to help if I can. And this year's Wishlist Survey will be
>>> > happening before too long, so get ready to list stuff there!
>>> >
>>> > Lastly, please be gentle with me as I try to figure out how to shift to
>>> > life not-as-a-volunteer! (Although I'm still a volunteer too.) I'm
>>> > trying very hard to be transparent and professional and not blur the
>>> > various roles gets confusing though! :-)
>>> >
>>> > Thanks,
>>> > Sam.
>>> >
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Re: [Wikisource-l] Fwd: [Wikimediaindia-l] seeking help with Hindi projects in Wikisource...

[Mardetanha]

best person would be Bodhisattwa Mandal

Mardetanha

On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 2:10 AM, John Mark Vandenberg <jay...@gmail.com>
wrote:

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> From: Lane Rasberry <l...@bluerasberry.com>
> Date: Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 4:38 AM
> Subject: [Wikimediaindia-l] seeking help with Hindi projects in
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> Hello,
>
> Can anyone here refer me to someone who is active in making
> Hindi-language contributions to Wikisource? I wish to meet someone
> with experience in that language and project. Otherwise, can anyone
> suggest to me which Indic languages in Wikisource seem to be most
> active?
>
> Is anyone able to make a recommendation for any OCR software for
> converting scanned Hindi language documents to digital text? Does
> anyone know anything about in-Wikisource support for OCR in Hindi
> language? Does it exist? Is there documentation?
>
> Thanks for anything anyone can share.
>
> yours,
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Re: [Wikisource-l] Post on Wikimedia blog about Wikisource

[Mardetanha]

amazing

On Friday, June 3, 2016, Claudia Garád  wrote:

> +1
> Great read - thanks for sharing!
>
> Am 03.06.2016 um 10:20 schrieb Andrea Zanni:
>
> And a great one too:
> https://blog.wikimedia.org/2016/06/02/why-i-proofread-poetry-wikisource/
>
> Thanks User:Londonjackbooks!
>
> Aubrey
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Re: [Wikisource-l] Splitting Books for Wikisource

[Mardetanha]

keep up good work satdeep

Mardetanha

On Sat, May 21, 2016 at 9:20 PM, Antonis Antonis <ah3...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Great news Satdeep Gill!
>
> You can use https://www.sejda.com/split-pdf-down-the-middle
>
> I just uploaed a new version of
> Macbeth_Shakespeare_in_Punjabi_by_HS_Gill.pdf splited.
>
>
> Regards,
> Antonis (Ah3kal)
>
> On Sat, May 21, 2016 at 7:40 PM, Satdeep Gill <satdeepg...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I share this news with all of you with great delight that a Punjabi
>> translator has relicensed his Punjabi translations of Macbeth and Julius
>> Ceasuer. Now we are going to upload it on Wikisource. I would like to know
>> if there is a method to split the pdf file with two pages on one page to a
>> single-paged pdf file.
>>
>> Check this book for reference:
>>
>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Macbeth_Shakespeare_in_Punjabi_by_HS_Gill.pdf
>>
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>> Satdeep Gill
>> +91-9465155746
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Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikisource Meetup in Wikimania 2016

[Mardetanha]

great :) thanks

On Wednesday, May 11, 2016, Andrea Zanni <zanni.andre...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 11:11 AM, Mardetanha <mardetanha.w...@gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','mardetanha.w...@gmail.com');>> wrote:
>
>> Andrea if you could make google hangout and more people could attend or
>> at least hear, would so great
>
>
>
> Well, it'll be at 16:00 UTC+02:00,
> and I can manage to have a Google Hangout.
> I'll post the link here.
> The idea, though, is to tutor him through Wikisource, making *him* (Alex
> Stinson) to understand things.
> If there'll be other people attending for me it's good, as long as the
> call has no problems :-)
>
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Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikimedia Conference report

[Mardetanha]

​me and Andrea also had discussion about possible
another conference focused on WS, and per
our discussion Wikimedia Italy might be able to the host for next round,
any idea on this ?

Mardetanha

On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 12:56 PM, Nicolas VIGNERON <
vigneron.nico...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Yeah \o/
> Wonderful news.
>
> @Andrea : Thank you, maybe you can write it down somewhere on meta for the
> records ?
>
> @Alex : it reminds me that the whole planet is a tiny place :
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pale_Blue_Dot :D
>
> Cdlt, ~nicolas
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Re: [Wikisource-l] Non transcluded Page: from ns:0

[Mardetanha]

I don't see fawikis on the page, could you update it also with farsi wikiS ?
thanks in advance

Mardetanha

On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 8:09 PM, Andrea Zanni <zanni.andre...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Thanks Phe also for the pointer at your GitHub page,
> I'll try to post issues directly there if needed :-)
>
> Your tool and a bit of fiddling with transclusions got me thinking:
> sometime some works are really complex.
> You have multiple Indexes representing multiple texts, and at times you
> also have other versions/editions of the same work.
> This creates a mess because all the realtionships between Indexes and ns0
> pages are made by humans,
> and it's not always easy to understand the "structure".
>
> So, my question is:
> is it possibile to "draw" some sort of graph/network between Indexes and
> the pages that are transcluded from them?
>
> Maybe with a visual representation it would be easier to tame the chaos :-)
>
> Aubrey
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 4:47 PM, Philippe Elie <phil...@free.fr> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2016 at 15:55 +0200, Alex Brollo wrote:
>>
>> > Very interesting.
>> >
>> > Have you any suggestion about finding the list of not transcluded
>> pages? I
>> > can imagine, to get by a bot html of ns0 main page and all its subpages
>> > related to a Index page, then parsing it to get the list of existing
>> page
>> > links; is there any simpler strategy?
>> >
>> > Alex
>>
>> If you have access to the database the simplest way is the code of this
>> tool
>>
>> https://github.com/phil-el/phetools/blob/master/statistics/not_transcluded.py
>> as the function not_transcluded() is nearly what you need. I'll probably
>> show the list of page not transcluded in a future version but this tool
>> get
>> such list for all index: on a wiki and the query takes a few minutes,
>> it's not
>> handy for a per index transclusions status.
>>
>> To get such list for only one index it'll easier to use the API, 1) get
>> all
>> links on the Index:page filtered to namespace Page: 2) use the embededin
>> api
>> to get all transclusions from ns:0, result from 1) minus result from 2)
>> are
>> what you are searching. You can do 1) in one request and you can probably
>> get
>> also the proofread status with the same request as you are probably only
>> interested in yellow or green page not transcluded, 2) is perhaps possible
>> in only one request, I don't remember. Such tool to complement my tool
>> can be
>> very useful. It's possible I'll provide a simpler API on toollabs to do
>> that.
>>
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