Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikidata property for non-fiction characters

2018-04-06 Thread Bodhisattwa Mandal
Hi, In this item the property Characters (P674) has been used for a non-fiction literary work, whereas the property is said to be related to works of fiction. Now, I am confused, if P674 is allowed for

Re: [Wikisource-l] Djvu format fate

2018-04-06 Thread Peter Meyer
I have heard about this issue many times, and it always seemed important, but also seems too hard to understand and act on. We could at least discuss possibilities online and at upcoming conferences. Could we distill these issues online on a wiki page somewhere? Or is it already done? (1)

Re: [Wikisource-l] Djvu format fate

2018-04-06 Thread Asaf Bartov
Perhaps. But the case would need to be made (in more detail, and more compellingly) to the people who could decide that, and none of them are on this list. You'd probably have to convince managers of technical teams at WMF if there is to be a chance of prioritizing it. A. On Fri, Apr 6,

[Wikisource-l] Djvu format fate

2018-04-06 Thread Alex Brollo
As you know, djvu format is an excellent and open format, but its fate is uncertain since it is overwhelmed by pdf, surely excellent, but closed and very difficult to manage. Even if a small part of djvu features are used by mediawiki, djvu in a necessary tool for wikisource work. Unluckily,

Re: [Wikisource-l] Djvu format fate

2018-04-06 Thread Alex Brollo
There's on the web an interesting suggestion about difference between djvu and pdf. The question was: how I can get hOCR from hidden layer of a pdf file? The reply: convert pdf in djvu, then all wik be simple (more or less). This comes from the fact that anything into a djvu file is open and

Re: [Wikisource-l] Djvu format fate

2018-04-06 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Peter Meyer, 06/04/2018 14:59: Could we distill these issues online on a wiki page somewhere?   Or is it already done? (1) what are the significant differences between pdf and djvu (or some new version of djvu that we could imagine coming up with) I agree this is important to outline. For

[Wikisource-l] Wikidata property for non-fiction characters

2018-04-06 Thread Bodhisattwa Mandal
Hi, is there any Wikidata property for characters depicted in non-fiction literatures? I found Properties like characters (P674) for fictions, depicts (P180) for works like paintings, main subject (P921) for primary topic of a work, but couldn't find something for non-fictions. Am I missing

Re: [Wikisource-l] Djvu format fate

2018-04-06 Thread Aleksey Chalabyan
What do you think about aproaching ABBYY and explaining that this is really important to us? Simply keeping feature usually is not a big issue. Can we ask Foundation to approach them? 2018-04-06 15:59 GMT+04:00 Peter Meyer : > I have heard about this issue many times, and

Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikidata property for non-fiction characters

2018-04-06 Thread Nicolas VIGNERON
Hi, If I understand correctly, Bodhisattwa, you want the same thing as P674 but for people and non-fiction (instead of character and fiction). AFAIK, that doesn't exist yet but you should ask for it (on https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal ). Cdlt, ~nicolas 2018-04-06 17:54

Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikidata property for non-fiction characters

2018-04-06 Thread billinghurst
Aren't they just called people? What are you looking to achieve? depicts(P180) statement is subject of(P805) subject has role(P2868) owner of(P1830)

Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikidata property for non-fiction characters

2018-04-06 Thread Bodhisattwa Mandal
Thats correct, Nicolas. I was asking about that. Thanks. On 6 April 2018 at 21:36, Nicolas VIGNERON wrote: > Hi, > > If I understand correctly, Bodhisattwa, you want the same thing as P674 > but for people and non-fiction (instead of character and fiction). >