Re: [Wikisource-l] [Wikitech-l] Wikisource bugs

2010-07-03 Thread Andrea Zanni
> But my suggestion is that we start to compile a catalog > of such problems, rather than submitting bug reports. > Where is a good place to start? > > Could it be this very mailing list, because AFAIK there is no active page for discussing about intersource matters. Another place could be Gdansk:

Re: [Wikisource-l] Partnership with the French National Library

2010-07-11 Thread Andrea Zanni
Congratulations, this is an amazing event for all the Wikisource community. Hopefully we'll use it to show other libraries that such things are possible, and we should all take this as a model. it would be really important to document everything is a common and visible location, where we can read

Re: [Wikisource-l] Partnership with the French National Library

2010-07-15 Thread Andrea Zanni
Thanks for you answer, Seb35. As you imagine, everyone is eager to know as many details possible about this projects, to see if and how it can scale and be applied elsewhere. In the Italian chapter right now there is a discussion about a possible money investment of a problem we all know: the tran

Re: [Wikisource-l] [Foundation-l] Wikisource and reCAPTCHA

2010-07-17 Thread Andrea Zanni
2010/7/16 Samuel J Klein > Hello Aubrey, > > On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 7:26 PM, Aubrey wrote: > > > The issue of metadata is nontheless serious, because it's one of the most > > important flaws of Wikisource: not applying standards (i.e Dublin Core) > and not > > having a proper tools for export/i

Re: [Wikisource-l] Goals for Wikisource (was: Re: Partnership with the French National Library)

2010-07-21 Thread Andrea Zanni
> > Wikisource may aim towards being a repository of sources for > Wikipedia. But IMHO it is not its only goal. In French Wikisource, we > proofread some novels and short stories... and we would like them to > be available in e-pub and pdf: now many people read on e-readers and > we must be here to

[Wikisource-l] Optimizing the search engine for Wikisource

2010-09-09 Thread Andrea Zanni
Dear wikilibrarians, during Wikimania I had the opportunity to speak with some developers who told me that, if in these years there has been an hard work on MediaWiki search engine (especially for optimizing it for Wikipedia and other projects), Wikisource as a project has always been omitted. As f

Re: [Wikisource-l] Optimizing the search engine for Wikisource

2010-09-13 Thread Andrea Zanni
> > Or do you mean the (non-main?) namespaces aren't indexed properly as > regards the needs of Wikisource? > I intended both. I would like to enhance the global search settings, but the command you gave me (that is very useful) seems to act only in the LocalSettings.php: is there anything that co

[Wikisource-l] Slides on Wikisource (and sister-projects)

2010-10-19 Thread Andrea Zanni
Dear Wikilibrarians, I'm looking for good presentations/slides on Wikimedia sister-projects: does anyone have one about Wikisource? I wrote some slides few years ago, but they are pretty outdated and I would like to know how the other chapters presented it.. I have looked pretty much everywhere on

Re: [Wikisource-l] Slides on Wikisource (and sister-projects)

2010-10-20 Thread Andrea Zanni
ve me. Thanks! Aubrey 2010/10/20 John Vandenberg > On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 11:44 AM, John Vandenberg > wrote: > > Hi Aubrey, > > > > On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 3:04 AM, Andrea Zanni > wrote: > >> Dear Wikilibrarians, > >> I'm looking for good prese

Re: [Wikisource-l] Bozza messaggio per wikisource-l (non inviato: usalo tu come vuoi)

2010-10-22 Thread Andrea Zanni
Being the problem of metadata a long pain which is bothering wikimedia projects from beginning, and Wikisource is no exception. If we want to be a reliable digital library, we should face the fact that our information about books are not using standards (e.g Dublin Core) nor are machine-readable.

[Wikisource-l] DIY Semantic Wikisource

2010-10-22 Thread Andrea Zanni
Sorry to all, I forgot to change the header of the message and Alex replied to all and not to me only. My bad, please ignore. I'm resending the original message below. Aubrey Being the problem of metadata a long pain which is bothering wikimedia projects from beginning, and Wikisource is no

[Wikisource-l] Copyright status of scans

2010-10-26 Thread Andrea Zanni
Dear Wikisource community, I want to a ask a question that surely have been raised before. Unfortunately, I haven't find that in the archive of wikisource-l, so I will ask you. On what legal basis are we uploading Google Books (and Internet Archive, and Gallica) scans on Commons, putting the {{PD-

Re: [Wikisource-l] Copyright status of scans

2010-10-26 Thread Andrea Zanni
preferred... ) Aubrey 2010/10/26 Klaus Graf > > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:When_to_use_the_PD-Art_tag#The_position_of_the_WMF > > Klaus Graf > > 2010/10/26 Andrea Zanni : > > Dear Wikisource community, > > I want to a ask a question that surely have

Re: [Wikisource-l] Copyright status of scans

2010-10-26 Thread Andrea Zanni
> Do you have any reference? THAT would be helpful. Aubrey > > > Klaus Graf > > 2010/10/26 Andrea Zanni : > > Thank you Klaus, I didn't know about that. > > But what about the "NPG affair"? > > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Dcoetzee/NPG

Re: [Wikisource-l] Copyright status of scans

2010-10-28 Thread Andrea Zanni
Thank you everyone for sharing your thoughts and (motivated) opinions, the issue is more clear to now (at least, I know why is it fuzzy, blurred and not clear at all). Reading the answer, I guess it was worth to ask the question ;-) Aubrey 2010/10/27 John Vandenberg > And the really short versi

[Wikisource-l] Wikicaptcha

2011-02-05 Thread Andrea Zanni
Dear wikisourcers, while exploring the djvu text layer, it.source community found interesting features that is good thing to share (SPOILER ALERT: Wikisource reCAPTCHA). (I added the technicalities in the footnotes, please look at them if you're interested.) We discovered that when the text layer

[Wikisource-l] WikiGuide on Wikisource

2011-04-06 Thread Andrea Zanni
tions). Your collaboration would be very welcome. Best regards, Andrea Zanni / it:s:Utente:Aubrey -- Board Wikimedia Italia http://www.wikimedia.it ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/lis

Re: [Wikisource-l] Timelines

2011-05-09 Thread Andrea Zanni
In the Italian Wikisource, we have Year categories and few templates we use in-text for anniversaries: the list is hand-made, you can read it in the Main Page ( http://it.wikisource.org). Unfortunately, we don't have other tools regarding timelines (either categories or templates using categories)

[Wikisource-l] Dynamic PageList installed for each Wikisource

2011-05-15 Thread Andrea Zanni
Being at Berlin Hackathon, I asked Ashar Voltuiz if they could install the Dynamic PageList extensionin the Italian Wikisource. I knew a lot of Wikisource asked for that, so they eventually installed for everyone. Hope this is

Re: [Wikisource-l] A Notable book in CC-BY-SA license and Malayalam wikisource

2011-05-29 Thread Andrea Zanni
In it.source, two are the main conditions: * the books must have been published * the license must be PD or CC-BY-SA/GFDL Then is OK. I think you can have it on ml.source :-) Goo job! Aubrey 2011/5/29 Federico Leva (Nemo) > Shiju Alex, 29/05/2011 12:22: > > I am unable to find any similar case

Re: [Wikisource-l] British Library makes Google search deal

2011-06-20 Thread Andrea Zanni
As I also wrote on the cultural-partners list, it is not clear if they are making a deal about digitising other books or making avalable books they already have. What do you understand? Aubrey 2011/6/20 Klaus Graf : > 2011/6/20 Shiju Alex : >> Thousands of pages from one of the world's biggest c

Re: [Wikisource-l] Publications we should support hosting and sharing

2011-06-26 Thread Andrea Zanni
I think that it's time to bring this issue up: how can we manage efficiently born-digital documents? I think Wikisource has developed a pretty amazing workflow to deal with digitized documents, transcribing and proofreading them with the Proofread extension. But every time we use on Wikisource thi

[Wikisource-l] Public domain calculator

2011-07-26 Thread Andrea Zanni
Maarten Zeinstra in the cultural-partners list points this very useful tool, for calculating the status of copyright of a work. http://outofcopyright.eu/ It think it can be very valuable for Wikisources as well. Aubrey ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wi

[Wikisource-l] Wikiguides with subs on Youtube

2011-11-11 Thread Andrea Zanni
[sorry for cross-posting] Hi all, I just wanted to announce that the wikiguides produced by Wikimedia Italy are now on Youtube with subs in different languages. If you are interested in translation, just contact me. The videos have proven themselves as a good introduction to the wiki world (a four

[Wikisource-l] Scientia (babelian-wikisourcian interproject)

2011-11-18 Thread Andrea Zanni
Dear all, I'm pleased to announce that the Italian Wikisource has started a collaboration with AlmaDL, the digital library of University of Bologna ( http://amshistorica.cib.unibo.it). The project, called Wikiproject Scientia ( http://it.wikisource.org/wiki/Progetto:Scientia), aims to take on Wiki

[Wikisource-l] ABBYY Finereader 11 on Toolserver: do we like it?

2011-11-28 Thread Andrea Zanni
terested, I don't thin it's a good idea to scatter discussions in every ws Village Pump. Cheers Aubrey *From:* Andrea Zanni *Sent:* Friday, November 25, 2011 10:20 AM *To:* support...@abbyy.com *Subject:* Questions about server licenses Dear ABBYY Europe, my name is Andrea Z

Re: [Wikisource-l] [cultural-partners] ABBYY Finereader 11 on Toolserver: do we like it?

2011-11-28 Thread Andrea Zanni
Wow, thank you all for the quick responses. I'll try to reply in-line. 2011/11/28 Mathias Schindler > I recommend sticking and supporting open source technology that has > been made available by third parties, such as > http://code.google.com/p/ocropus/ / > http://code.google.com/p/tesseract-oc

Re: [Wikisource-l] [cultural-partners] ABBYY Finereader 11 on Toolserver: do we like it?

2011-11-28 Thread Andrea Zanni
2011/11/28 Gerard Meijssen > Hoi, > What scripts does it support ? > Thanks, > GerardM > Hi Gerard, could you be more explicit? I don't understand the question. Aubrey ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.

Re: [Wikisource-l] [cultural-partners] ABBYY Finereader 11 on Toolserver: do we like it?

2011-12-15 Thread Andrea Zanni
I haven't contacted ABBYY people yet, because I felt there was not enough consensus. Morevoer, it would be helpful to hear from IA people before, if we have contacts there. Aubrey 2011/12/15 Federico Leva (Nemo) > Andrea Zanni, 28/11/2011 14:19: > > @Tomasz >> i think

[Wikisource-l] Transclusion statistics

2012-02-20 Thread Andrea Zanni
Hi all, is there a problem with the transclusion statistics script? It froze 2 days ago. http://toolserver.org/~phe/statistics.php?diff=1 Regards Aubrey ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/l

[Wikisource-l] Wikisource presentation at Wikimania

2012-03-12 Thread Andrea Zanni
Dear Wikisourcerors, I'm planning to go to Wikimania and submit a speech, which goes like: *Wikisource: what we've done, what we could do better* (or "What we got right, what we'd get better") http://wikimania2012.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissions/Wikisource:_what_we%27ve_done,_what_we_could_do_better

Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikisource presentation at Wikimania

2012-03-12 Thread Andrea Zanni
ierre ebooks + Cristian's wikicaptcha) and a less technical one with me and Amir (I'm quite flexible on what to talk about), plus anyone who is willing to join. Do you think it is a good idea? Aubrey 2012/3/12 Pierre Yves Beaudouin : > 2012/3/12 Amir E. Aharoni : >> 2012

Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikisource presentation at Wikimania

2012-03-12 Thread Andrea Zanni
I could do it, but just if everyone is willing to and OK with the idea. Maybe we have a better chance all together than alone, but, really, I don't want to impose my view, I could actually drop my talk and endorse yours. Aubrey 2012/3/12 Amir E. Aharoni : > 2012/3/12 Andrea Zanni : >

Re: [Wikisource-l] [cultural-partners] IMPACT

2012-06-07 Thread Andrea Zanni
Well, that would be awesome, Gerard. OCR could be a critic feature of Wikisource (for example), the best softwares are all commercial (eg. ABBYY Finereader) and they cost a LOT. It would be very useful to understand what IMPACT does and where it is going. Moreover, Wikisource can be a testbed direc

Re: [Wikisource-l] [cultural-partners] IMPACT

2012-06-07 Thread Andrea Zanni
2012/6/7 Lars Aronsson > On 2012-06-07 13:37, Andrea Zanni wrote: > >> Well, that would be awesome, Gerard. >> OCR could be a critic feature of Wikisource (for example), the best >> softwares are all commercial (eg. ABBYY Finereader) >> and they cost a LOT. It woul

Re: [Wikisource-l] Upcoming hackathon for both experts AND newbies: Washington, DC, USA July 10-11

2012-06-19 Thread Andrea Zanni
I'm not sure I'll be there the whole time (there is Wiki loves Libraries and meetings about the Chapter Association) but it would be amazing to work together. I'm going to present a speech http://wikimania2012.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissions/Wikisource:_what_we%27ve_done,_what_we_could_do_better wh

Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikimania

2012-07-13 Thread Andrea Zanni
Ok, if we want it to be very informal there is the Whole Food place near Foggy Bottom: you can go and buy whatever food you want (veggies, sushi, pizza, meat) and we could eat that in the tables in front of it. Don't know just a tip. Aubrey 2012/7/13 Thomas Pellissier Tanon > It's a very good i

Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikimania

2012-07-13 Thread Andrea Zanni
er 4:30 and then head out at 5:00. So > everyone has time to finish up any conversations from the last session > > BirgitteSB > > On Jul 13, 2012, at 1:14 PM, Andrea Zanni > 'zanni.andre...@gmail.com');>> > wrote: > > Ok, if we want it to be very informal &

Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikimania

2012-07-13 Thread Andrea Zanni
2201 I street. It's very near. Aubreymcfato Il giorno venerdì 13 luglio 2012, ha scritto: > Ok let's plan for six at Whole Foods. Can some wrote the directions from > Marvin Center, please? I am not sure where it is exactly. > > BirgitteSB > > > > > On J

[Wikisource-l] Unconference

2012-07-14 Thread Andrea Zanni
Should we do an unconference tomorrow about all the stuffed we discussed about? We need to write things down and update each other. Aubrey ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisou

[Wikisource-l] Category on Common: Wikisource slides

2012-07-23 Thread Andrea Zanni
Dear all, I've uploaded my Wikimania slides, and I created the category on Commons "Wikisource presentation slides": http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikisource_presentation_slides Please use it in the future, and possible on your past uploaded slides, it would be nice to have them all in

[Wikisource-l] Roadmap Wikisource

2012-07-30 Thread Andrea Zanni
Hello Wikisourcerors. It's likely that many of us will be on holiday, but here there is the page where we should stat collecting tasks and developing the roadmap for Wikisource improvement in the next months. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2012_Wikisource_roadmap I just posted the same li

Re: [Wikisource-l] Roadmap Wikisource

2012-08-02 Thread Andrea Zanni
SB > > On Jul 30, 2012, at 1:38 PM, Hélène Pedrosa-Masson wrote: > > Le 30 juil. 12 à 13:58, Andrea Zanni a écrit : > > Hello Wikisourcerors. > > > Hello ! > > It's likely that many of us will be on holiday, but here there is the > page where we should stat co

Re: [Wikisource-l] Roadmap Wikisource

2012-08-06 Thread Andrea Zanni
2012/8/6 > On Aug 5, 2012, at 7:19 PM, Gaurav Vaidya wrote: > > > Hi everybody, > > > > On 03-Aug-2012, at 2:57 AM, Dovi Jacobs wrote: > >> Hi, please forgive me in advance if my technical knowledge isn't up to > speed and I don't entirely understand the issues. > >> > >> From what I've seen, th

Re: [Wikisource-l] Biodiversity Heritage Library

2012-08-06 Thread Andrea Zanni
> > > I'm currently working with the BHL on a two-month, unrelated metadata > project, part of which is making sure that BHL's illustration metadata can > be easily synced with content in the Commons (see > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Information_Art_of_Life for > more details). So I

[Wikisource-l] Text layer Djvu (was: Biodiversity Heritage Library)

2012-08-06 Thread Andrea Zanni
If someone is interested, Alex Brollo is digging into the djvu layer issue, we have a Dropbox folder with all the files. If you are interested in working on that, please drop me a mail. What we can show you right now is this: https://www.dropbox.com/s/lu6re2a02xp0nyc/Dialogo%20della%20salute%20djv

Re: [Wikisource-l] Roadmap Wikisource

2012-08-17 Thread Andrea Zanni
My 2 cents. I think that Wikisource communities could decide to *try* implementing "critical editions" of texts. I would think it is better to have a proper namespace for that, or at least a clear template which warns users about the collaborative nature of the edition. I would also think that th

[Wikisource-l] Toolserver stats

2012-09-27 Thread Andrea Zanni
Hi all, does someone know what happened to toolserver stats? The froze 3 days ago: http://toolserver.org/~phe/statistics.php?diff=1 Aubrey ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisou

[Wikisource-l] Tool for importing books between IA, Commons, Google Books

2012-10-10 Thread Andrea Zanni
Hi all, I wanted to ask you if there is a way to "suggest" User:tpb, the Internet Archive's bot who crawls in Google Books and upload them in IA, which books it should import. And if there is a way to import smoothly from IA to Commons. I would think a tool like this would be *very* useful for us

Re: [Wikisource-l] Tool for importing books between IA, Commons, Google Books

2012-10-15 Thread Andrea Zanni
PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) > wrote: > > Andrea Zanni, 10/10/2012 12:25: > > > >> Hi all, > >> I wanted to ask you if there is a way to "suggest" User:tpb, > >> the Internet Archive's bot who crawls in Google Books and upload them in > &

Re: [Wikisource-l] Tool in order to move book from Internet Archive to Commons

2012-11-01 Thread Andrea Zanni
Awesome! Aubrey On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 10:34 AM, Magnus Manske wrote: > Nice! > > > On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 1:27 PM, Thomas PT wrote: > >> Hi! >> I've written a tool with a web interface that upload at the demand books >> with its metadata from Internet Archive to Wikimedia Commons. >> It's ava

Re: [Wikisource-l] Fwd: [Wikitech-ambassadors] Local discussions about how to improve communication between users and developers

2012-12-09 Thread Andrea Zanni
I'm so glad about this email. I couldn't agree more about the need of a better communication between Wikisources AND between us wikisourcerors and tech people. I think all of us share the idea tha Wikisource is a very important project with a *lot* of potential, and I would definetely want to see i

[Wikisource-l] Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] Alpha version of the VisualEditor now available on the English Wikipedia

2012-12-12 Thread Andrea Zanni
They are enabling an alpha-version of the Visual Editor in en.wikipedia. This is really a huge thing: the Visual Editor could be paramount for wikisource, (because we have a lot of formatting and typography). With a BIG problem though: when I asked the developers about Visual Editor and Proofread

[Wikisource-l] MARCsman

2013-01-03 Thread Andrea Zanni
This should be of our interest... https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/MARCsman The tool can import MARC data from Library of Congress into Commons. Aubrey ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/lis

[Wikisource-l] Wikisource things: grant proposal, wikidata

2013-03-06 Thread Andrea Zanni
Dear all, I don't know how many of you are aware of a grant proposal for Wikisource, prepared by Micru, me (Aubrey), and Tpt. The proposal is currently under review: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG/Elaborate_Wikisource_strategic_vision On a related matter, i wanted to encourage those of

Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikisource things: grant proposal, wikidata

2013-03-06 Thread Andrea Zanni
I answered :-) https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata_talk:Books_task_force Aubrey On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 4:18 PM, Alex Brollo wrote: > > > 2013/3/6 Andrea Zanni > >> Dear all, >> I don't know how many of you are aware of a grant proposal for >> Wikisourc

Re: [Wikisource-l] [Wikimedia-l] Are there plans for interactions between wikidata and wiktionaries ?

2013-03-11 Thread Andrea Zanni
Hi Denny, as Nemo pointed out, that grant is for Wikisource :-) http://meta.wikimedia.org/**wiki/Grants:IEG/Elaborate_** Wikisource_strategic_vision We spoke about that briefly in the Office hours: one of the main thi

Re: [Wikisource-l] Missing project ideas for GSOC

2013-03-23 Thread Andrea Zanni
That is a really good opportunity. We also have http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikisource_roadmap, that we set up at Wikimania 2012. Few of those thought are now in the Wikisource Grant proposal, too: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG/Elaborate_Wikisource_strategic_vision I would say that

Re: [Wikisource-l] Missing project ideas for GSOC

2013-03-25 Thread Andrea Zanni
Do you think that working on the Proofread extension for making it compliant with the brand new Visual Editor could be feasible? I know that Tpt (in cc) was working on it, maybe it would be a good (and useful) project. Aubrey On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 12:43 PM, Andrea Zanni wrote: > That i

[Wikisource-l] GSoC on Wikisource and Proofread page

2013-04-09 Thread Andrea Zanni
Our beloved Tpt is planning to mentor for Google Summer of Code: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mentorship_programs/Possible_projects#Proofread_Page_extension_needs_to_be_refactored Do you know someone interested? Please spread the news. Aubrey ___ Wiki

Re: [Wikisource-l] Blog post: Defining the Wikisource vision

2013-05-09 Thread Andrea Zanni
Dear all, if you have any question or suggestion, please use this list, or the wiki pages: http://wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisource_vision_development In the next week we'd like to contact some users for each major Wikisource, if anyone of you is interested, please contact us. Moreover, I'd like to

[Wikisource-l] RfC on Wikidata about books metadata

2013-05-17 Thread Andrea Zanni
Dear all, there is an important Request for Comments on Wikidata. https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_comment/References_and_sources#How_to_store_edition_data For those of you who don't know it yet, there is a specific Wikidata Books task force http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata

Re: [Wikisource-l] RfC on Wikidata about books metadata

2013-05-17 Thread Andrea Zanni
On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 11:56 AM, Ed Summers wrote: > Can you provide more information about what decision needs to be made > about the relationship between Wikidata and Wikisource? > I will try, and hopefully Micru (who knows Wikidata much better than me) will follow up. Wikidata right know is

Re: [Wikisource-l] RfC on Wikidata about books metadata

2013-05-17 Thread Andrea Zanni
On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 12:45 PM, Alex Brollo wrote: > If I can add a comment, I suggest that Commons should be included into > wikidata net as soon as possible, since it shares with wikidata its feature > of being "a unique container" and book metadata are already shared between > all wikisource

[Wikisource-l] Lua modules for Wikisource

2013-05-20 Thread Andrea Zanni
Hi all, is there any Wikisource which had Lua deployed? I'm looking for a book/header templates re-written in Lua to copy and localize :-) (so far, I've seen only this one in the Italian Wikipedia http://it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Modulo:Tracce&action=edit) And I'd love to see Book and Crea

Re: [Wikisource-l] Proofreading based on statistics

2013-05-24 Thread Andrea Zanni
I completely agree with Lars. I remember, for example, an awesome tool from Alex Brollo, postOCR, a js script which corrects automatically most common OCR errors and converts apostrophes. The tool is very useful and very used, and it would improve a lot from a given list of common OCR errors per bo

Re: [Wikisource-l] Proofreading based on statistics

2013-05-26 Thread Andrea Zanni
> > I remember, for example, an awesome tool from Alex Brollo, postOCR, >>> a js script which corrects automatically most common OCR errors and >>> converts apostrophes. >>> >> >> Where is this? Is it documented in English? > > As Alex says, no. And it's a pity. I really think it is paramount to h

Re: [Wikisource-l] Refactoring of Proofread Page Extension

2013-05-30 Thread Andrea Zanni
Hi Aarti, welcome! I'm very, very excited for your project: I think that the VisualEditor in ns Page is probably one of the top priority for Wikisource to reach its potential, and being easy and simple to new readers and contributors. I'll forward your message to the it.source VIllage Pump, to mak

[Wikisource-l] Wikisource-l administrators

2013-05-30 Thread Andrea Zanni
Just a curiosity: who are the mods of this list? Aubrey ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l

[Wikisource-l] Jailbreaking the PDF

2013-05-30 Thread Andrea Zanni
Hi, don't how many of you are interested in this, but there is some work being done related to the "jailbreaking of the PDF". The best resource to follow it (IMHO) is http://blogs.ch.cam.ac.uk/pmr/ This kind of project is more related to Open Access movement than Wikisource itself, at the present

Re: [Wikisource-l] Reunification of Wikisources

2013-06-02 Thread Andrea Zanni
Hi all, I didn't read the whole discussion, but let me put here few links: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikisource/Archives/2003 (there are more archives..) and http://wikisource.org/wiki/User:Angela >From what I recall, the problem was Hebrew Wikisource, and generally LTR languages. As Ami

Re: [Wikisource-l] Reunification of Wikisources

2013-06-02 Thread Andrea Zanni
On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 11:41 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: > Yes but that's not a problem, it's a feature. Wikisource is (currently) > not for browsing masses of books like archive.org or Google Books (which > do that job very well); it's for choosing a subset of those books and > working on the

Re: [Wikisource-l] Playing with Lua, javascript and pagelist tag

2013-06-06 Thread Andrea Zanni
On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 1:36 AM, David Cuenca wrote: > Automatic creation of page transclusion is nice but also dangerous... too > many structures to have an easy solution. What Alex is thinking, if I understand his work correctly, is that when you work on a new book in nsPage, you "define" what

Re: [Wikisource-l] Playing with Lua, javascript and pagelist tag

2013-06-07 Thread Andrea Zanni
On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 2:01 PM, billinghurst wrote: > I don't agree that it should be fully automated by any stretch of the > imagination. I can see that it is an option that some may wish to use, but > I dislike the limitations, and do not see it working as the only means to > use. > Well, I t

Re: [Wikisource-l] Playing with Lua, javascript and pagelist tag

2013-06-07 Thread Andrea Zanni
On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 9:40 AM, Jane Darnell wrote: > Sometimes a book becomes famous just for one passage, and that passage > may not even be indexed in the original version. How do you add these > links? On Wikimedia Commons you can keep on adding values to fields, > and change the "Information

Re: [Wikisource-l] About texts without supporting files and "Index:" pages

2013-06-11 Thread Andrea Zanni
@aarti: sometimes some books/text/documents are born-digital. Think about all the scientific literature, or Phd thesis. These files (if cc-by/sa licensed) could be stored in Wikisource, and be useful for the wikicommunity. We already have some means to link those text to their source (with a URL).

Re: [Wikisource-l] About texts without supporting files and "Index:" pages

2013-06-11 Thread Andrea Zanni
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 8:41 AM, Thomas PT wrote: > Sorry if my answer is off-topic but if metadata are stored in WIkidata, is > it really needed to create index pages to store the same data as Wikidata? > As I see the things, we'll have bibliographical metadata on Wikidata > (title, author, date

Re: [Wikisource-l] About texts without supporting files and "Index:" pages

2013-06-12 Thread Andrea Zanni
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 1:32 PM, billinghurst wrote: > If you are talking about how we represent digitally prepared text with the > validation process. I would have no issue with the text being ripped and > having a bot run through and taking it straight to level 4 (green), and > then redefining g

Re: [Wikisource-l] About texts without supporting files and "Index:" pages

2013-06-12 Thread Andrea Zanni
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 2:32 PM, Thibaut Horel wrote: > 3. The current system with 4 quality levels to represent the proofreading > state of a page is not sufficient to represent the diversity of > proofreading scenarios. Indeed, there is a distinction to make between the > *correctness* of the te

Re: [Wikisource-l] About texts without supporting files and "Index:" pages

2013-06-13 Thread Andrea Zanni
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 4:47 PM, Aarti K. Dwivedi wrote: > If I am not wrong, as of today, most books that were born digital, are > still under copyright. Of course, they are available freely on the > internet. But we can't use the pirated copies. How would we go about the > procurement of these

Re: [Wikisource-l] Converting pdf files into wiki markup

2013-06-13 Thread Andrea Zanni
gt; ellydwivedi2...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> If I am not wrong, as of today, most books that were born digital, are >>>> still under copyright. Of course, they are available freely on the >>>> internet. But we can't use the pirated copies. How would

Re: [Wikisource-l] ABBYY xml files: any of you is working about?

2013-06-17 Thread Andrea Zanni
Are you following this thread? Is it something we can share with one of the GSoCers? Aubrey On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 8:32 AM, Alex Brollo wrote: > Just to fix our present thoughts/"discoveries". > > 1. ABBYY OCR procedure outputs _abbyy.xml file, containing any detail > about multi-level text s

Re: [Wikisource-l] ABBYY xml files: any of you is working about?

2013-06-17 Thread Andrea Zanni
On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 10:12 AM, Lars Aronsson wrote: > Both the Internet Archive > and Wikisource volunteers use a cheap, commercial > version of ABBYY Finereader and we have no > dialogue with that company. And why should they > listen to us? We have no more money to provide, > but Google does

Re: [Wikisource-l] Impressions from LODLAM 2013

2013-06-21 Thread Andrea Zanni
Hi David, really thanks for this email. I'm at OAI8 (conference of Open Access in Geneva), with several fellow wikimedians, and I'd like to express some thoughts related to yours. On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 6:47 AM, David Cuenca wrote: > All this led me to think about the emotional vs rational rewa

[Wikisource-l] OA books in Wikisource

2013-06-21 Thread Andrea Zanni
Hi guys, I'm in Geneva (with fellow wikimedians) at a OA conference and we are talking *a lot* about Wikisource. We have found a very high quality publisher of OA books ( http://www.openbookpublishers.com/, released in CC-BY), that would be utmost happy to have their books in Wikisource. I think

Re: [Wikisource-l] OA books in Wikisource

2013-06-21 Thread Andrea Zanni
On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 2:53 PM, Klaus Graf wrote: > I cannot see any need to import such books in Wikisource. Hi Klaus, why? Aubrey ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource

Re: [Wikisource-l] OA books in Wikisource

2013-06-21 Thread Andrea Zanni
On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 3:42 PM, Klaus Graf wrote: > My question is, why we should import free modern content which is well > hosted in repositories. Because we can simply do it?? > I could say kinda the same thing for books that are well hosted in Google Books or Internet Archive... The answer i

Re: [Wikisource-l] OA books in Wikisource

2013-06-21 Thread Andrea Zanni
On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 2:31 PM, David Cuenca wrote: > There is also a this simple pdf to epub converter > http://www.codeproject.com/Articles/44395/Conversion-of-PDF-to-EPUB-Format > > If it works well, it also should be possible to do a conversion: > pdf->epub->html->wikitext > Well, I already

Re: [Wikisource-l] Request for comment on the book management extension (GSoC)

2013-06-24 Thread Andrea Zanni
Hi Molly, I've edited a few things (ex. authority control metadata) I think we should really double check that we mapped all the metadata from template:book and Wikisource Index, as well as Wikidata properties. I once did this: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlPNcNlN2oqvdFQyR2F5YmhrMW

Re: [Wikisource-l] Pitch In! SLQ project

2013-07-11 Thread Andrea Zanni
A Wikisource transcribathon :-) Nice idea John, congratulations. Do more! Aubrey On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 8:14 AM, John Vandenberg wrote: > Late on Monday the State Library of Queensland launched its 'Pitch In' > program, where the SLQ staff work with digital volunteers working on > Flickr Com

[Wikisource-l] Phe toolserver

2013-07-13 Thread Andrea Zanni
Is Phe toolserver stats down for good? http://toolserver.org/~phe/statistics.php Aubrey ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l

Re: [Wikisource-l] Proofread extension "extraction" of OCR text in Djvu

2013-07-19 Thread Andrea Zanni
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 8:13 AM, Thibaut Horel wrote: > I don't see the possibility of directly editing the ABBYY xml file > happening any time soon. In theory, it should be possible, since that is > somewhat similar to what Visual Editor is doing: providing a WYSIWYG > interface to edit structur

Re: [Wikisource-l] Edwardsbot

2013-07-25 Thread Andrea Zanni
Hi Ronnie, the message for joining the Wikisource User Group, among other news, was prepared by me (Aubrey) and Micru and translated by other fellow users in different languages. We did not send the message to all users of all wikisources, but we used Wikisource user statistics to select active us

Re: [Wikisource-l] Edwardsbot

2013-07-25 Thread Andrea Zanni
the list is interlingual.It would be better to send the main message > in English, adding a short message at its beginning in the recipients' > languages that this message is for English speakers, and apology if > recipient doesn't read it. Just my 2 cents. > > > On Thu, Jul 25,

[Wikisource-l] Editing Wikisource from Mobile

2013-07-26 Thread Andrea Zanni
Yesterday a blogpost announced a new feature for editing Wikipedia from mobile. http://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/07/25/edit-wikipedia-on-the-go/ Via twitter they confirmed that also Wikisource and all other project can be edited: do you confirm that? how is the user experience? Maybe we could file s

[Wikisource-l] Fwd: [libraries] MMOB

2013-08-18 Thread Andrea Zanni
Hi all, hope some of you are still on vacation :-) Meanwhile, between a cocktail on the beach and a swim, you can check this out: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Massively-Multiplayer_Online_Bibliography Asaf Bartov is the head of the Wikimedia Grants Program, and a long contributor of Hebrew Wik

Re: [Wikisource-l] ProofreadPage Extension and Semantic Forms

2013-08-26 Thread Andrea Zanni
Me too :-). Maybe the future implementation of Wikidata could help you in this job, but don't hold your breath about this, we still don't know the next sister project which will be integrated. Aubrey On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 10:28 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: > I can only confirm what TPT sa

Re: [Wikisource-l] DNB 11M bibliographic records as CC0

2013-08-26 Thread Andrea Zanni
This seems very interesting: maybe, there will be a time when Wikidata (or similar) will host the bibliographic records of thousands of libraries... Right now, I'm not sure if we want to discuss a massive upload of these records in WD, because: * they are in MARC, which is way more complex than th

Re: [Wikisource-l] Is nsPage merely a proofreading tool?

2013-08-28 Thread Andrea Zanni
I'm not sure if I understand Alex's idea, but I understand the issue of having 2 different namespaces, one for editing and one for reading. I think it's a great idea, but we should improve a lot the usability of that and ease the navigation from one ns to the other. For exaple, we should allow the

[Wikisource-l] Wikisource Facebook page

2013-09-04 Thread Andrea Zanni
Since many of us are managers of the Wikisource Facebook Page ( https://www.facebook.com/Wikisource), I would like to show you a very interesting feature I did not know about (Matthew Roth, Global Communications Manager at the Wikimedia Foundation, taught me that at Wikimania). It is possible to *

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