[Wikitech-l] Wider trials of Abuse Filter

2009-02-19 Thread Andrew Garrett
Hi all, After a few weeks on test.wikipedia.org, the Abuse Filter is rolling out for wider testing. For the moment, it's active on MediaWiki.org, but we're interested in deploying it to other small projects interested in targetting pattern vandalism. The Abuse Filter extension allows very specifi

Re: [Wikitech-l] Two ways to grant rollback and patrol right ?

2009-02-19 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 6:09 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote: > There is an INGROUPS condition too. Check out > http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgAutopromote I checked the DefaultSettings.php documentation instead, which is *supposed* to always be up-to-date. I'll put a warning there that it's wro

Re: [Wikitech-l] Two ways to grant rollback and patrol right ?

2009-02-19 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/2/19 Aryeh Gregor : > On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 5:34 PM, Platonides wrote: >> Wait!! Do you mean Autopromoted groups are recalculated on each request? > > Yes, that's the point. > >> If the above works, that would be a way to fix the long-awaited bug 4995 >> (block from uploading). >> Remove up

Re: [Wikitech-l] Mobile gateway testing

2009-02-19 Thread Chad
I think for anything other than casual browsing, using native clients would be better. Perfect use of the API. I've been trying to get one for Android into decent shape. -Chad On Feb 19, 2009 6:03 PM, "Brion Vibber" wrote: On 2/19/09 4:14 AM, Angela wrote: > On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 9:42 PM, Dav

Re: [Wikitech-l] Mobile gateway testing

2009-02-19 Thread David Gerard
2009/2/19 Brion Vibber : > That depends on how many people have been announcing new mobile > platforms. :) > In this work we're mainly targeting the popular has-a-good-browser > smartphones. These will be able to do decent editing at least for little > bits here and there, and creating a decent in

Re: [Wikitech-l] Mobile gateway testing

2009-02-19 Thread Brion Vibber
On 2/19/09 4:14 AM, Angela wrote: > On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 9:42 PM, David Gerard wrote: >> I notice it doesn't have edit links as yet - any plans? > > Good question. Is this the same thing as the "new mobile platform" > that was announced before or not? I thought the point of that was to > enable

Re: [Wikitech-l] Mobile gateway testing

2009-02-19 Thread David Gerard
2009/2/19 Brion Vibber : > On 2/19/09 2:42 AM, David Gerard wrote: >> I notice it doesn't have edit links as yet - any plans? > Nothing firm in the works yet but it's one of our goals for it long-term. :) > (It's possible to edit in the regular MediaWiki skin on your iPhone... > it just *really s

Re: [Wikitech-l] Two ways to grant rollback and patrol right ?

2009-02-19 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 5:34 PM, Platonides wrote: > Wait!! Do you mean Autopromoted groups are recalculated on each request? Yes, that's the point. > If the above works, that would be a way to fix the long-awaited bug 4995 > (block from uploading). > Remove upload from user group and autopromot

Re: [Wikitech-l] Mobile gateway testing

2009-02-19 Thread Brion Vibber
On 2/19/09 2:42 AM, David Gerard wrote: > 2009/2/19 Brion Vibber: > >> We're trying to get some more traffic onto the new mobile gateway for >> testing -- and figuring out how best to get people to the >> mobile-optimized site if they hit a regular Wikipedia link while on >> their mobile phone. > >

[Wikitech-l] Unique Image URLs

2009-02-19 Thread Sergey Chernyshev
Hi, I'm working on optimizing MediaWiki for front-end performance and came across a problem that seems to be an issue even on Wikipedia - images all get requested from the server for the subsequent requests even though all of them didn't change - this means that images that are cached in a browser

Re: [Wikitech-l] Two ways to grant rollback and patrol right ?

2009-02-19 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/2/19 Platonides : > Thomas Dalton wrote: >> 2009/2/19 Aryeh Gregor: >>> On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 5:02 PM, Thomas Dalton >>> wrote: There may be an easy way, but I can see a rather complicated way: You create a dummy usergroup which you add people to when you want to remove thei

Re: [Wikitech-l] Two ways to grant rollback and patrol right ?

2009-02-19 Thread Platonides
Thomas Dalton wrote: > 2009/2/19 Aryeh Gregor: >> On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 5:02 PM, Thomas Dalton >> wrote: >>> There may be an easy way, but I can see a rather complicated way: You >>> create a dummy usergroup which you add people to when you want to >>> remove their autopromoted rights and then

Re: [Wikitech-l] Two ways to grant rollback and patrol right ?

2009-02-19 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/2/19 Aryeh Gregor : > On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 5:02 PM, Thomas Dalton > wrote: >> There may be an easy way, but I can see a rather complicated way: You >> create a dummy usergroup which you add people to when you want to >> remove their autopromoted rights and then include "NOT a member of th

Re: [Wikitech-l] Two ways to grant rollback and patrol right ?

2009-02-19 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 5:02 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote: > There may be an easy way, but I can see a rather complicated way: You > create a dummy usergroup which you add people to when you want to > remove their autopromoted rights and then include "NOT a member of the > dummy group" as a condition f

Re: [Wikitech-l] Two ways to grant rollback and patrol right ?

2009-02-19 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/2/19 Aryeh Gregor : > On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Michael Rosenthal > wrote: >> It is. > > Even the automatically-granted version? How does that work? There may be an easy way, but I can see a rather complicated way: You create a dummy usergroup which you add people to when you want t

Re: [Wikitech-l] Two ways to grant rollback and patrol right ?

2009-02-19 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Michael Rosenthal wrote: > It is. Even the automatically-granted version? How does that work? ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Usage of Wikipedia name

2009-02-19 Thread Bilal Abdul Kader
Hi Jens, No we will not put ads. It is for academic purposes only. bilal On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 3:33 PM, Jens Frank wrote: > On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 02:41:14PM -0500, Bilal Abdul Kader wrote: > > Greetings, > > I have been searching online for the possibility of using the name > wikipedia > >

Re: [Wikitech-l] Usage of Wikipedia name

2009-02-19 Thread Jens Frank
On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 02:41:14PM -0500, Bilal Abdul Kader wrote: > Greetings, > I have been searching online for the possibility of using the name wikipedia > to name a server but I could not find information about this anywhere. > > Basically, we are duplicating the enwiki locally at Concordia

[Wikitech-l] Usage of Wikipedia name

2009-02-19 Thread Bilal Abdul Kader
Greetings, I have been searching online for the possibility of using the name wikipedia to name a server but I could not find information about this anywhere. Basically, we are duplicating the enwiki locally at Concordia and searching whether we are allowed to use wikipedia.concordia.ca for the se

Re: [Wikitech-l] specialallpages setRobotpolicy('index,follow')

2009-02-19 Thread jidanni
http://perishablepress.com/press/2008/06/03/taking-advantage-of-the-x-robots-tag/ seems like a possible useful way to override the MediaWiki body via a custom HTTP header... ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimed

Re: [Wikitech-l] Double redirects

2009-02-19 Thread Russell Blau
"Chad" wrote in message news:5924f50a0902020609q542047cfme84b9237eec38...@mail.gmail.com... > On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 8:43 AM, Russell Blau wrote: ... >> 3) How can the users (not sysadmins) of a given wiki determine what the >> value of $wgMaxRedirects is for their wiki? In particular, what va

Re: [Wikitech-l] Two ways to grant rollback and patrol right ?

2009-02-19 Thread Michael Rosenthal
It is. On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 4:10 AM, Jason Wong wrote: > If follow this system to grant right, is it possible to revoke the right from > a > user? > > > ___ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mai

Re: [Wikitech-l] edit form oddity -- newly missing input type

2009-02-19 Thread Steve Summit
Andrew Garrett wrote: > On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 7:12 PM, Steve Summit wrote: >> Sometime between yesterday and today, the edit summary field on >> en.wp's edit page lost its "type=text" attribute. > > Is it causing any problems? No, just a curiosity. > It was part of some much-needed code cleanu

Re: [Wikitech-l] Mobile gateway testing

2009-02-19 Thread Angela
On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 9:42 PM, David Gerard wrote: > > I notice it doesn't have edit links as yet - any plans? Good question. Is this the same thing as the "new mobile platform" that was announced before or not? I thought the point of that was to enable more easier mobile editing. Angela

Re: [Wikitech-l] Mobile gateway testing

2009-02-19 Thread Siebrand Mazeland
See http://nl.w.wikipedia.org and a few others (de, fr, es, pt). Cheers! Siebrand -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: wikitech-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikitech-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] Namens Gerard Meijssen Verzonden: donderdag 19 februari 2009 11:47 Aan: Wikimedia develope

Re: [Wikitech-l] Mobile gateway testing

2009-02-19 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, At FOSDEM Brion said that not only the English Wikipedia can be available. As I remember it, it was a matter of some meta data that needs to be made available for a project. When I remember this correctly, it would be "awesome" when this specification is public. It means that we can make our c

Re: [Wikitech-l] Mobile gateway testing

2009-02-19 Thread David Gerard
2009/2/19 Brion Vibber : > We're trying to get some more traffic onto the new mobile gateway for > testing -- and figuring out how best to get people to the > mobile-optimized site if they hit a regular Wikipedia link while on > their mobile phone. I must say, I like the mobile skin - looks grea

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Foundation-l] Report to the Board of Trustees: Davos

2009-02-19 Thread David Gerard
2009/2/19 Michael Snow : > I'm likely going to put the general issue of biographies on the board's > next agenda, for what that's worth. Though as I say, there's no simple > blanket solution, and I don't know if we can promise anything beyond > more discussion and more awareness of the issues. W