* Chris Lewis yecheondigi...@yahoo.com [Tue, 2 Mar 2010 20:30:20 -0800
(PST)]:
I hope I am emailing this to the right group. My concern was about
mediawiki and it's limitations, as well as it's outdated methods. As
someone wo runs a wiki, I've gone through a lot of frustrations.
If Wordpress
Excellent data point. Thanks, David.
On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 11:42 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
On 3 March 2010 05:26, George Herbert george.herb...@gmail.com wrote:
If you have better stats, I'm all ears. I am not in any way a
Confluence opponent, and a couple of people I
* Ryan Lane rlan...@gmail.com [Wed, 3 Mar 2010 00:00:30 -0600]:
I have never met a Confluence environment in the wild; overall user
statistics I am aware of, and my personal experience, are that MW,
Twiki, and Sharepoint dominate actual usage.
DoD uses it for Techipedia, which is a
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From: ahmed algohary algoharya...@gmail.com
Date: 2 March 2010 20:42
Subject: [WikiEN-l] wikipedia 2007 dump
To: wikie...@lists.wikimedia.org
Hi,
I need to download wikipeida 2007 dump as the current dump is quite large.
So, I wander if it's still
You can take much smaller Simple English Wikipedia or Russian Wikipedia dumps :)
Best regards,
Andrew.
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 12:08 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
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From: ahmed algohary algoharya...@gmail.com
Date: 2 March 2010 20:42
Subject:
Hi!
The Wikimedia Foundation makes millions more than Wordpress, but the
Foundation is running a top 5 website.
wordpress.com is in top20 too :)
Domas
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On 3 March 2010 11:05, Domas Mituzas midom.li...@gmail.com wrote:
...
, why can't the money be put into making a modern product instead of in
pockets of the people who run it? I know Wordpress and Mediawiki serve two
different purposes, but that's not the point. The point is, one is modern
On 3 March 2010 08:45, George Herbert george.herb...@gmail.com wrote:
Excellent data point. Thanks, David.
It's hard to get sensible estimations of the spread of proprietary
server software - it doesn't generate the same amount of publicity,
press, forums etc. that open source does. (This
On 3 March 2010 10:19, Tei oscar.vi...@gmail.com wrote:
I feel It takes a enormeous effort to move a proyect managed by
programmers and sysadmins for programmers and sysadmins to be
palatable by mere desktop users. The good news is that sysadmins and
programmers are desktop users too, so
On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 11:30 PM, Chris Lewis yecheondigi...@yahoo.com wrote:
I hope I am emailing this to the right group. My concern was about mediawiki
and it's limitations, as well as it's outdated methods. As someone wo runs a
wiki, I've gone through a lot of frustrations.
If Wordpress
Chad innocentkiller at gmail.com writes:
I have no idea if there's a nice Windows package friendly enough for
the low-to-medium-tier NT admins (those who watch progress bars for a
living), but that would be nice. They're not going to get away from
the command line and text configuration
Ryan Lane rlane32 at gmail.com writes:
I'd like to mention that from a security perspective, I like the fact
that by default MediaWiki does not allow Wordpress style upgrades and
code modifications. MediaWiki exploits may lead to vandalism, but
Wordpress exploits generally lead to shell or
Chris Lewis wrote:
I hope I am emailing this to the right group.
It is.
My concern was about mediawiki and it's limitations, as well as it's outdated
methods. As someone wo runs a wiki, I've gone through a lot of frustrations.
Maybe you should list your frustrations? It maybe a problem on
Chris Lewis wrote:
I hope I am emailing this to the right group. My concern was about mediawiki
and it's limitations, as well as it's outdated methods. As someone wo runs a
wiki, I've gone through a lot of frustrations.
For one thing, I'd say that mediawiki aims for a particular
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[mailto:wikitech-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of
Domas Mituzas
Sent: 01 March 2010 10:11
To: Wikimedia developers
Subject: [Wikitech-l] hiphop progress
Howdy,
Most of the code in MediaWiki works
Jared,
assert(hash('adler32', 'foo', true) === mhash(MHASH_ADLER32, 'foo'));
Thanks! Would get to that eventually, I guess. Still, there's xdiff and few
other things.
Domas
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On 3 March 2010 15:06, Paul Houle p...@ontology2.com wrote:
For a large-scale site, there's going to be a lot of administration
work to be done, so it doesn't matter if the system is difficult to set
up and configure.
As it turns out, MediaWiki isn't really hard at all :-)
pockets of the people who run it? I know Wordpress and Mediawiki serve two
different purposes, but that's not the point. The point is, one is modern and
user friendly (Wordpress), and the other (Mediawiki) is not. Other complaints:
There is a great difference in business models there.
On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 11:30 PM, Chris Lewis yecheondigi...@yahoo.com wrote:
If Wordpress is like Windows 7, then Mediawiki is Windows 2000. Very outdated
GUI, outdated ways of doing things,for example using ftp to edit the settings
of the wiki instead of having a direct interface like
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 4:30 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
On 3 March 2010 15:06, Paul Houle p...@ontology2.com wrote:
For a large-scale site, there's going to be a lot of administration
work to be done, so it doesn't matter if the system is difficult to set
up and configure.
Domas Mituzas wrote:
Jared,
assert(hash('adler32', 'foo', true) === mhash(MHASH_ADLER32, 'foo'));
Thanks! Would get to that eventually, I guess. Still, there's xdiff and few
other things.
xdiff is only needed for recompression. For page views, there is a
pure-PHP port of the patch part.
Chiming in on this a little late, but, basically:
Yeah, mediawiki isn't that easy to administer. Unfortunately, people
administering MediaWiki installs are only one type of user that we have
to worry about and resources (as always) are limited. Right now, we're
focusing a concentrated effort
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 1:59 PM, Dmitriy Sintsov ques...@rambler.ru wrote:
WordPress wasn't the gemstone of code about 2 years ago I've checked it.
MediaWiki was a clear winner, don't know about current WordPress code,
though.
Please, let's not start attacking other projects here. There's no
* David Gerard dger...@gmail.com [Wed, 3 Mar 2010 19:24:15 +]:
It's by far the least-worst blogging engine. It does REALLY REALLY
HELP to know your way around a command line, even though you don't
need it a *lot*.
Mostly a basic things will be enough, not really a bash guru.
The
* David Gerard dger...@gmail.com [Wed, 3 Mar 2010 20:02:29 +]:
You can blog using a text editor and an FTP client too, but WordPress
does lots of little things that save work for you :-)
Semantic MediaWiki also easily builds various lists depending on
properties of article, RSS feeds and
Would we not just run an ldap server? Its an open standard, afterall.
How do you envision using a contact database?
D
On 3/2/10 5:47 PM, Makelesi Kora-Gonelevu wrote:
Hi everyone
I've been asked to add a contacts database to a mediawiki site so that users
can search for contacts. It will
Notice that if you use LDAP for this (which really is a good idea),
you can pull the info into the wiki using the External Data extension:
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:External_Data#.23get_ldap_data_-_retrieve_data_from_LDAP_directory
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 2:51 PM, Danese Cooper
Marco Schuster wrote:
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 4:30 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
On 3 March 2010 15:06, Paul Houle p...@ontology2.com wrote:
For a large-scale site, there's going to be a lot of administration
work to be done, so it doesn't matter if the system is
Thanks Ryan and Danese
I'll have a look at the LDAP and let you know if i have any questions.
On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 9:09 AM, Ryan Lane rlan...@gmail.com wrote:
Notice that if you use LDAP for this (which really is a good idea),
you can pull the info into the wiki using the External Data
Danese Cooper wrote:
Would we not just run an ldap server? Its an open standard, afterall.
How do you envision using a contact database?
D
It's nice to see you here Danese :)
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On Wed, 3 Mar 2010 10:31 pm, Platonides wrote:
fl wrote:
I would disagree. The Wikimedia software has been released under an
open
source license: While the WMF certainly has no obligation to improve
the
software, they most definately have an obligation to release the
source
code to
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 7:42 AM, ahmed algohary algoharya...@gmail.com wrote:
I need to download wikipeida 2007 dump as the current dump is quite large.
So, I wander if it's still available for download as I could only find 2009
and 2010 dumps on the download page!
I was wondering about the
I'd like to chime into the discussion and point out that there is a huge
community around extensions and features that are not used by Wikimedia
foundation - Semantic MediaWiki co and OpenID to name a few.
These extensions are maintained by 3rd party developers and many of them,
including myself
fl wrote:
No, they can't. As far as I am aware, MediaWiki is released under the
GNU General Public License[1], which stipulates, among other things, the
requirement to release a program's source code to the public and to
release any derived changes under the same license[2].
If the WMF were
I'm in somewhat of a unique position to comment on this, since I both do
MediaWiki extension development, and run a MediaWiki consulting company
(shameless plug: wikiworks.com) - so I personally have a financial interest
in making MediaWiki more popular and more easy-to-use. I also tend to hear a
The last successful was way before 2009 and sadly doesn't exist on the
wikimedia servers.
Trust me .. as soon as this runs is done were going to stamp it, copy
it, put it into a safe, and mirror it everywhere.
We're not going to let that file get away.
--tomasz
Jamie Morken wrote:
This is a
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