[Wikitech-l] UsabilityInitiative extension is going to die

2010-09-20 Thread Trevor Parscal
As I mentioned in a prior email, I have been converting UsabilityInitiative/* extensions to work with ResourceLoader, and in the process removing their dependency on UsabilityInitiative.php. Some of these extensions were not really using any functionality in UsabilityInitiative.php, so their

Re: [Wikitech-l] using parserTests code for selenium test framework

2010-09-20 Thread Platonides
Dan Nessett wrote: On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 23:42:08 +0200, Platonides wrote: You load originaldb.objectcache, retrieve the specific configuration, and switch into it. For supporting many sumyltaneous configurations, the keyname could have the instance (whatever that cookie is set to) appended,

Re: [Wikitech-l] UsabilityInitiative extension is going to die

2010-09-20 Thread Chad
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 4:12 PM, Trevor Parscal tpars...@wikimedia.org wrote: I'm hoping these extensions, especially WikiEditor and Vector can be examples of how to make use of ResourceLoader in extensions. Please note: if you are working on code that is aimed at deployment this year, you

Re: [Wikitech-l] UsabilityInitiative extension is going to die

2010-09-20 Thread Platonides
Trevor Parscal wrote: I'm hoping these extensions, especially WikiEditor and Vector can be examples of how to make use of ResourceLoader in extensions. Please note: if you are working on code that is aimed at deployment this year, you should not depend on ResourceLoader. We hope to have it

Re: [Wikitech-l] UsabilityInitiative extension is going to die

2010-09-20 Thread Trevor Parscal
On 9/20/10 1:35 PM, Platonides wrote: Trevor Parscal wrote: I'm hoping these extensions, especially WikiEditor and Vector can be examples of how to make use of ResourceLoader in extensions. Please note: if you are working on code that is aimed at deployment this year, you should not depend

Re: [Wikitech-l] using parserTests code for selenium test framework

2010-09-20 Thread Dan Nessett
On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 22:32:24 +0200, Platonides wrote: Dan Nessett wrote: On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 23:42:08 +0200, Platonides wrote: You load originaldb.objectcache, retrieve the specific configuration, and switch into it. For supporting many sumyltaneous configurations, the keyname could have

Re: [Wikitech-l] UsabilityInitiative extension is going to die

2010-09-20 Thread MZMcBride
Chad wrote: On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 4:12 PM, Trevor Parscal tpars...@wikimedia.org wrote: I'm hoping these extensions, especially WikiEditor and Vector can be examples of how to make use of ResourceLoader in extensions. Please note: if you are working on code that is aimed at deployment this

Re: [Wikitech-l] UsabilityInitiative extension is going to die

2010-09-20 Thread Chad
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 6:07 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: I think nearly everyone agrees that most of this should be in core. Saying so is trolling, though. Don't see how it's trolling. But then again, maybe I should defer to your expertise in the area. -Chad

Re: [Wikitech-l] UsabilityInitiative extension is going to die

2010-09-20 Thread MZMcBride
Chad wrote: On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 6:07 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: I think nearly everyone agrees that most of this should be in core. Saying so is trolling, though. Don't see how it's trolling. But then again, maybe I should defer to your expertise in the area. I don't

Re: [Wikitech-l] UsabilityInitiative extension is going to die

2010-09-20 Thread MZMcBride
Aryeh Gregor wrote: Implying that particular groups of developers aim to suppress particular technical opinions, without naming the developers or giving any supporting evidence, is definitely trolling. You think calling specific individuals out (getting personal) would _improve_ matters?

[Wikitech-l] MediaWiki 1.17 release target (Re: UsabilityInitiative extension...)

2010-09-20 Thread Rob Lanphier
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 4:01 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Quite a few people are under the impression that MediaWiki 1.17 will be released in October or November of this year. I don't think there's been many public references to this, but that is more or less the timeframe many of us

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki 1.17 release target (Re: UsabilityInitiative extension...)

2010-09-20 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Rob Lanphier ro...@robla.net wrote: I don't think there's been many public references to this, but that is more or less the timeframe many of us have discussed. There is at least one public reference here:

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki 1.17 release target (Re: UsabilityInitiative extension...)

2010-09-20 Thread Trevor Parscal
I think someone (RobLa) is planning on populating these areas of the wiki as more meetings take place - so I'm not sure we should be so critical of the number of links in [[Meetings/Release]] - but yeah, you've got a fair point, if we are going to be keeping meeting notes in a public place

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki 1.17 release target (Re: UsabilityInitiative extension...)

2010-09-20 Thread Guillaume Paumier
Le lundi 20 septembre 2010 à 17:08 -0700, Trevor Parscal a écrit : I think someone (RobLa) is planning on populating these areas of the wiki as more meetings take place - so I'm not sure we should be so critical of the number of links in [[Meetings/Release]] - but yeah, you've got a fair

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki 1.17 release target (Re: UsabilityInitiative extension...)

2010-09-20 Thread Casey Brown
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 8:08 PM, Trevor Parscal tpars...@wikimedia.org wrote: I sometimes wonder if we are better at talking about things than doing them. How easy would it be to just add a link the [[Meetings]] and be done with it. Yet, here we all are typing away about it... Not sure if this

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki 1.17 release target (Re: UsabilityInitiative extension...)

2010-09-20 Thread Rob Lanphier
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 4:53 PM, Aryeh Gregor simetrical+wikil...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Rob Lanphier ro...@robla.net wrote: The goal, as I recall, was branching October 15 or thereabouts, with first beta in November, and a release sometime after that (perhaps as

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki 1.17 release target (Re: UsabilityInitiative extension...)

2010-09-20 Thread MZMcBride
Rob Lanphier wrote: On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 4:01 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Quite a few people are under the impression that MediaWiki 1.17 will be released in October or November of this year. I don't think there's been many public references to this, but that is more or less