Re: [Wikitech-l] Category sorting and first letters

2011-01-18 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2011/1/18 Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org: On 18/01/11 07:41, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: And i don't know what to do when in the Lithuanian Wikipedia you sort names of places in the UK - should Islington come before or after York? Before. $collator = new Collator('lt') print

Re: [Wikitech-l] WMDE Developer Meetup moved to May

2011-01-18 Thread Daniel Kinzler
On 17.01.2011 19:38, Bryan Tong Minh wrote: On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 5:11 PM, Daniel Kinzler dan...@brightbyte.de wrote: * There will be a hackathon hosted by Wikimedia Germany in (late) May, probably in Berlin, but that's not decided yet. This will mostly about hacking, with a strong focus

Re: [Wikitech-l] WMDE Developer Meetup moved to May

2011-01-18 Thread Daniel Kinzler
On 17.01.2011 19:53, Ashar Voultoiz wrote: On 17/01/11 17:11, Daniel Kinzler wrote: * There will be a hackathon hosted by Wikimedia Germany in (late) May, probably in Berlin, but that's not decided yet. This will mostly about hacking, with a strong focus on GLAM related stuff. There will be

Re: [Wikitech-l] Category sorting and first letters

2011-01-18 Thread Maciej Jaros
Tim Starling (2011-01-18 02:03): On 18/01/11 07:41, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: 2011/1/17 Tim Starlingtstarl...@wikimedia.org: * It automatically drops accents, since accented letters sort the same as unaccented letters (at the primary level). How locale aware is it? For example, in Swedish

[Wikitech-l] Minimum PHP now 5.2 in trunk (was: [Mediawiki-l] about requiring PHP 5.2)

2011-01-18 Thread Chad
On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 3:10 AM, Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org wrote: I don't think JSON support is particularly important since it can easily be simulated, and I don't think you should use the filter extension in MediaWiki, regardless of whether it is supported. I agree about filter.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Minimum PHP now 5.2 in trunk (was: [Mediawiki-l] about requiring PHP 5.2)

2011-01-18 Thread Soxred93
On Jan 18, 2011, at 2:00 PM, Chad wrote: +1 here. a::b syntax is less keystrokes having to use an array. Also lets us remove the stupid hack from r68760[0] (probably similar things elsewhere in the code) Can't forget the hack that is MWFunction::callArray, which is also a hack that is

[Wikitech-l] FYI : Commons thumbnails slow

2011-01-18 Thread Magnus Manske
I get long wait times for images from Commons (10sec even for small thumbnails). The browsers (Commons, Firefox) also seem to load the same image repeatedly, even though it should be in cache. I'm in the UK. Everything else seems normal (well, I'm in the UK, but otherwise... ;-).

Re: [Wikitech-l] FYI : Commons thumbnails slow

2011-01-18 Thread Krinkle
Op 18 jan 2011, om 22:10 heeft Magnus Manske het volgende geschreven: I get long wait times for images from Commons (10sec even for small thumbnails). The browsers (Commons, Firefox) also seem to load the same image repeatedly, even though it should be in cache. I'm in the UK. Everything

Re: [Wikitech-l] FYI : Commons thumbnails slow

2011-01-18 Thread Magnus Manske
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 9:15 PM, Krinkle krinklem...@gmail.com wrote: Op 18 jan 2011, om 22:10 heeft Magnus Manske het volgende geschreven: I get long wait times for images from Commons (10sec even for small thumbnails). The browsers (Commons, Firefox) also seem to load the same image

Re: [Wikitech-l] FYI : Commons thumbnails slow

2011-01-18 Thread Ryan Kaldari
Same in the U.S. Seeing tons of missing thumbnails, although they do seem to load after a few minutes. Ryan Kaldari On 1/18/11 1:10 PM, Magnus Manske wrote: I get long wait times for images from Commons (10sec even for small thumbnails). The browsers (Commons, Firefox) also seem to load the

Re: [Wikitech-l] FYI : Commons thumbnails slow

2011-01-18 Thread Ryan Lane
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 1:10 PM, Magnus Manske magnusman...@googlemail.com wrote: I get long wait times for images from Commons (10sec even for small thumbnails). The browsers (Commons, Firefox) also seem to load the same image repeatedly, even though it should be in cache. I'm in the UK.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Category sorting and first letters

2011-01-18 Thread Maciej Jaros
Maciej Jaros (2011-01-18 15:42): Tim Starling (2011-01-18 02:03): On 18/01/11 07:41, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: 2011/1/17 Tim Starlingtstarl...@wikimedia.org: * It automatically drops accents, since accented letters sort the same as unaccented letters (at the primary level). How locale aware is

Re: [Wikitech-l] FYI : Commons thumbnails slow

2011-01-18 Thread Magnus Manske
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 10:23 PM, Ryan Lane rlan...@gmail.com wrote: Thankfully, I do read wikitech-l often, but please, please, report this on IRC as well, if possible everyone. I'm not doing much on IRC, and apparently I'm not alone with that here. Assuming that someone reporting a problem

Re: [Wikitech-l] FYI : Commons thumbnails slow

2011-01-18 Thread Ryan Lane
I'm not doing much on IRC, and apparently I'm not alone with that here. Assuming that someone reporting a problem to wikitech-l will start a new thread (as I did), how about auto-posting each new thread subject line from wikitech-l on IRC automatically? (here I am again, throwing tech

Re: [Wikitech-l] From page history to sentence history

2011-01-18 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 9:12 PM, Roan Kattouw roan.katt...@gmail.com wrote: Wikimedia doesn't technically use delta compression. It concatenates a couple dozen adjacent revisions of the same page and compresses that (with gzip?), achieving very good compression ratios because there is a huge

Re: [Wikitech-l] From page history to sentence history

2011-01-18 Thread Roan Kattouw
2011/1/19 Aryeh Gregor simetrical+wikil...@gmail.com: We used to do this, but the problem was that many articles are much larger than the compression window of typical compression algorithms, so the redundancy between adjacent revisions wasn't helping compression except for short articles.  

Re: [Wikitech-l] From page history to sentence history

2011-01-18 Thread Alex Brollo
It seems a complely different topic, but: is there something to learn about text saving from the smart trick of TeX formulas storing? I did a little bit of reverse engineering on that algorithm, I did never find anything useful application from it, but much fun. :-) Alex

Re: [Wikitech-l] FYI : Commons thumbnails slow

2011-01-18 Thread Krinkle
Op 19 jan 2011, om 00:11 heeft Ryan Lane het volgende geschreven: I'm not doing much on IRC, and apparently I'm not alone with that here. Assuming that someone reporting a problem to wikitech-l will start a new thread (as I did), how about auto-posting each new thread subject line from

Re: [Wikitech-l] FYI : Commons thumbnails slow

2011-01-18 Thread MZMcBride
Krinkle wrote: There's a bot in #wikimedia-toolserver reporting activity on [toolserver-l], I'll see if I can get a similar thing going for [wikitech-l]. In which channel would we want this though ? I assume #wikimedia-tech although, like Ryan said about dev/ops related, perhaps better in