Have you wondered how GiGeGat [1] works for volunteer developers if
even paid developers have difficulties with it? We have already seen
cases where it works, but we don't know much about the cases where
volunteers decide to give up.
Here, however, is one example [2] of the latter which I want to
Yes, it is difficult
It's hard to request new repository and have it created within short
period of time.
It's hard to navigate in gerrit
It's hard to checkout mediawiki repository, because it's huge
It's hard to find out how to commit / push (there is no guide how to
setup git so that it
See https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16258
I guess it was just frustration:
I'm fight with this gerrit shit since hours, first SSH didn't work and then
pushing did not work because the Committer was named another way. This is
all way to complicated for me. An now this repository is totaly out
On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 9:29 PM, Daniel Friesen
li...@nadir-seen-fire.com wrote:
Speaking of Chad. He's been dying to work on his project trying to create a
configuration database for MediaWiki. He's been busy with Gerrit stuff but
hoping to work on configuration after that's done.
I think
On 29/07/2012 14:42, Petr Bena wrote:
Yes, it is difficult
It's hard to request new repository and have it created within short
period of time.
Need more Chad's :L
It's hard to navigate in gerrit
When is this not being discussed/debated on/argued over...
It's hard to checkout mediawiki
On 29 July 2012 15:39, Lewis Cawte lewisca...@googlemail.com wrote:
I'd say I kind of agree with the other points, but I'd also sort of
disagree. Being someone that doesn't commit/push a lot of code, the things I
have done (which, are relatively simple) we're easy for me to do...
What are
On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 10:39 AM, Lewis Cawte lewisca...@googlemail.com wrote:
It's hard to request new repository and have it created within short
period of time.
Need more Chad's :L
No, we need a real process for this that scales. I was going to start
some work on this with a new extension
2012/7/29 Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com:
Yes, it is difficult
It's hard to request new repository and have it created within short
period of time.
It's hard to navigate in gerrit
It's hard to checkout mediawiki repository, because it's huge
It's hard to find out how to commit / push
On 29/07/2012 15:45, David Gerard wrote:
On 29 July 2012 15:39, Lewis Cawte lewisca...@googlemail.com wrote:
I'd say I kind of agree with the other points, but I'd also sort of
disagree. Being someone that doesn't commit/push a lot of code, the things I
have done (which, are relatively simple)
Hi,
In the last few months I was involved in a few editing workshops for
new users. When we told people to create user accounts, they often
chose usernames based on relatively common people's names, but it
usually didn't happen in wikis in major language like English or
Russian, so their username
On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 11:23 AM, Amir E. Aharoni
amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote:
In the last few months I was involved in a few editing workshops for
new users. When we told people to create user accounts, they often
chose usernames based on relatively common people's names, but it
On 29/07/12 17:01, Lewis Cawte wrote:
I understood making volunteer contribution easier was one of the
attractions of Gerrit ...
That, or Git, or the whole new workflow I assume, but who perhaps does
this make it easier for? I suppose its easier especially for the people
on the WMF side,
On 29 July 2012 16:01, Lewis Cawte lewisca...@googlemail.com wrote:
On 29/07/2012 15:45, David Gerard wrote:
What are the statistics for volunteer contribution before and after
Gerrit?
Has anyone kept track of such numbers?
I believe, although I may not be correct, Sumana requested these a
On 29/07/12 17:23, Amir E. Aharoni wrote:
Hi,
In the last few months I was involved in a few editing workshops for
new users. When we told people to create user accounts, they often
chose usernames based on relatively common people's names, but it
usually didn't happen in wikis in major
2012/7/29 Platonides platoni...@gmail.com:
On 29/07/12 17:23, Amir E. Aharoni wrote:
Hi,
In the last few months I was involved in a few editing workshops for
new users. When we told people to create user accounts, they often
chose usernames based on relatively common people's names, but it
On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 12:42 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
On 29 July 2012 16:01, Lewis Cawte lewisca...@googlemail.com wrote:
On 29/07/2012 15:45, David Gerard wrote:
What are the statistics for volunteer contribution before and after
Gerrit?
Has anyone kept track of such
On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Lewis Cawte lewisca...@googlemail.com wrote:
It's hard to find out how to commit / push (there is no guide how to
setup git so that it works as it is on github, unless you are git
expert you may find it hard, because you mostly need to fix your git
config
On 29/07/12 18:48, Amir E. Aharoni wrote:
As this page shows, this account existed only in enwiki since 2007.
Accounts in hewiki and ptwiki were created a few days ago.
Commit to fix that:
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16922
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Hi.
Splitting off from the serious alternative thread, I wanted to make note
that the view that some hold about Gerrit being a developer-only tool is
probably completely wrong and may be contributing to some of the strains and
pains we've been seeing.
Much like Bugzilla (and MediaWiki, to be
I was just asking for numbers. Your response looks very like making an
excuse for bad numbers *before we have the numbers*.
I submit that if we know we have to prepare excuses for bad numbers
before we even have the numbers, the current process may not have been
a good idea.
Since the
Since the operations repos have been opened, we've had over 800
changes pushed in from non-operations team members (this includes devs
that have root). That's roughly equivalent to the number of changes
one operations team staff members have pushed in during the same time
period.
As a
Yes it _is_ difficult for volunteer developers.
I still find it very difficult and did not commit any new line of code
to gerrit except a coached fix during Berlin Hackathon 2012.
And use github for my daily work now.
Tom
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On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 12:54 PM, Thomas Gries m...@tgries.de wrote:
Yes it _is_ difficult for volunteer developers.
I still find it very difficult and did not commit any new line of code
to gerrit except a coached fix during Berlin Hackathon 2012.
And use github for my daily work now.
Can
I believe, although I may not be correct, Sumana requested these a while
back and has been looking at them... I'm not sure if it covers (new)
volunteer contributors or not.
I had provided some numbers, though I'm not sure how helpful they
are/have been/will be:
Am 29.07.2012 21:56, schrieb Ryan Lane:
On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 12:54 PM, Thomas Gries m...@tgries.de wrote:
Yes it _is_ difficult for volunteer developers.
I still find it very difficult and did not commit any new line of code
to gerrit except a coached fix during Berlin Hackathon 2012.
And
Le 29/07/12 15:17, Niklas Laxström a écrit :
The developer finds it too slow and complicated and wants
to move to GitHub and as consequence we cannot provide translation
services for his extensions at translatewiki.net.
I fail to see the relation there. Can't you sync with the GitHub git repo?
Here is a quick suggestion. These should be more neutral and easy on the
eyes if you keep seeing a lot of gerrit. I wish there was a simple way to
change the values in the css and upload a preview, but i did a view source
on gerrit and I received quite a fright.
Leaving it to someone else to show
On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 5:38 PM, Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.com wrote:
Here is a quick suggestion. These should be more neutral and easy on the
eyes if you keep seeing a lot of gerrit. I wish there was a simple way to
change the values in the css and upload a preview, but i did a view
On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 15:24:55 -0700, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 5:38 PM, Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.com
wrote:
Here is a quick suggestion. These should be more neutral and easy on the
eyes if you keep seeing a lot of gerrit. I wish there was a simple way
Well, I'm willing to work on an extension manager whenever it is ready to be
started. Feel free to edit the RFC page, I'm trying to make it fairly
comprehensive.
-Daniel
On Sunday, July 29, 2012 at 10:36 AM, Chad wrote:
On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 9:29 PM, Daniel Friesen
MediaWiki Bugzilla Report for July 23, 2012 - July 30, 2012
Status changes this week
Bugs NEW : 465
Bugs ASSIGNED : 54
Bugs REOPENED : 59
Bugs RESOLVED
I suppose the change is ok, but some old users with shared usernames
which are not unified will be forced to use a second username when they
currently are not and they're not disturbing each other, because each of
them is active only in a single language.
Old users are mostly inactive nowadays
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