Re: [Wikitech-l] Fixing wikivoyage.com

2012-11-27 Thread Erik Moeller
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 4:37 AM, Roland Unger roland.un...@soziologie.uni-halle.de wrote: we bought wikivoyage.com in September to transfer it to the WMF. Since October 7, 2012 it is hosted at Hetzner and shows to our association's servers. Hi Roland, yes, I'm aware - but it'd be good to

Re: [Wikitech-l] wikivoyage.com

2012-11-27 Thread Tim Starling
On 28/11/12 08:52, Erik Moeller wrote: On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 1:19 PM, Platonides platoni...@gmail.com wrote: On 27/11/12 12:45, Sébastien Santoro wrote: What would you suggest exactly? Than wikivoyage.com is transfered to the fundation and redirect to wikivoyage.org, like we do with

Re: [Wikitech-l] Standardizing highest priority in Bugzilla

2012-11-27 Thread Arthur Richards
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Platonides platoni...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I don't think you would need to ban people not in your group from touching those fields. You only need to take into account who said that as well as what they said. Even when having a shared meaning, it doesn't hold

Re: [Wikitech-l] Standardizing highest priority in Bugzilla

2012-11-27 Thread Krinkle
On Nov 27, 2012, at 5:39 PM, Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Mon, 2012-11-26 at 17:36 -0800, James Forrester wrote: On 26 November 2012 17:25, Rob Lanphier ro...@wikimedia.org wrote: Timeframes seem like a pretty good proxy for priority. If something is highest priority, and

Re: [Wikitech-l] wikivoyage.com

2012-11-27 Thread Neil Harris
On 27/11/12 11:45, Sébastien Santoro wrote: Hello, On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Neil Harris n...@tonal.clara.co.uk wrote: I visited en.wikivoyage.com by mistake, and dicocvered that en.wikivoyage.com appears to serve up Wikivoyage-old's content, but from 188.40.41.16, which whois

[Wikitech-l] Fwd: Wikimedia/mapping event in Europe early next year?

2012-11-27 Thread Erik Moeller
-- Forwarded message -- From: Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org Date: Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 6:49 PM Subject: Wikimedia/mapping event in Europe early next year? To: map...@lists.wikimedia.org Hi folks, it's been a long time coming, but we're finally gearing up for putting some

[Wikitech-l] wikivoyage.com

2012-11-27 Thread Neil Harris
I visited en.wikivoyage.com by mistake, and dicocvered that en.wikivoyage.com appears to serve up Wikivoyage-old's content, but from 188.40.41.16, which whois identifies as being in the netblock HETZNER-RZ10 operated by Hetzner Online AG. The wikivoyage.com domain itself has a last-modified

Re: [Wikitech-l] wikivoyage.com

2012-11-27 Thread Sébastien Santoro
Hello, On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Neil Harris n...@tonal.clara.co.uk wrote: I visited en.wikivoyage.com by mistake, and dicocvered that en.wikivoyage.com appears to serve up Wikivoyage-old's content, but from 188.40.41.16, which whois identifies as being in the netblock HETZNER-RZ10

Re: [Wikitech-l] wikivoyage.com

2012-11-27 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
In the meanwhile, in such cases, it's useful to add the domain to https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Live_mirrors and also to the Internal wiki relevant page https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=747627oldid=441648 (or whatever page replaced it). Nemo

Re: [Wikitech-l] Standardizing highest priority in Bugzilla

2012-11-27 Thread Andre Klapper
On Mon, 2012-11-26 at 17:36 -0800, James Forrester wrote: On 26 November 2012 17:25, Rob Lanphier ro...@wikimedia.org wrote: Timeframes seem like a pretty good proxy for priority. If something is highest priority, and yet is not on track to be completed for several months, then.wait,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Standardizing highest priority in Bugzilla

2012-11-27 Thread David Gerard
On 27 November 2012 16:39, Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org wrote: I propose adding a *new* priority called Immediate which should only be used to mark really urgent stuff to fix. This priority would be added above the existing Highest priority. Has anyone suggested a separate urgency

Re: [Wikitech-l] Standardizing highest priority in Bugzilla

2012-11-27 Thread Andre Klapper
Hi Arthur, On Mon, 2012-11-26 at 14:54 -0700, Arthur Richards wrote: I don't think 'importance' should necessarily map to a timeframe for resolution - at least not one that is set in stone. With regard to the wider picture, the confusing and partially unclear concept severity vs priority vs

Re: [Wikitech-l] Standardizing highest priority in Bugzilla

2012-11-27 Thread Andre Klapper
On Tue, 2012-11-27 at 16:49 +, David Gerard wrote: Has anyone suggested a separate urgency parameter? I don't think adding another parameter in the user interface improves anything. We have already Priority, Severity, Target milestone and blocker bugs that are all used to somehow express

Re: [Wikitech-l] Standardizing highest priority in Bugzilla

2012-11-27 Thread Isarra Yos
On 27/11/2012 09:55, Andre Klapper wrote: On Tue, 2012-11-27 at 16:49 +, David Gerard wrote: Has anyone suggested a separate urgency parameter? I don't think adding another parameter in the user interface improves anything. We have already Priority, Severity, Target milestone and blocker

[Wikitech-l] Priorities in Bugzilla [was: Re: Standardizing highest priority]

2012-11-27 Thread Andre Klapper
On Tue, 2012-11-27 at 17:39 +0100, Andre Klapper wrote: I propose adding a *new* priority called Immediate which should only be used to mark really urgent stuff to fix. This priority would be added above the existing Highest priority. 1) Look at the current distribution of priorities at

Re: [Wikitech-l] Priorities in Bugzilla [was: Re: Standardizing highest priority]

2012-11-27 Thread David Gerard
On 27 November 2012 17:09, Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org wrote: 2) Look at our priority definitions in https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Bugzilla/Fields#Priority a) normal means Should be fixed by the next release.[1] This is extremely unrealistic with above usage of Normal. You may be

Re: [Wikitech-l] Standardizing highest priority in Bugzilla

2012-11-27 Thread Arthur Richards
Rob and Andre, I hear what you're saying. I think I've always had a lack of clarity around the meanings of priority/urgency/severity/whatever in bugzilla, and it sounds like I'm not alone :p. That said, I still do not think timeframes are a good proxy for priority (a la James' example). I think of

Re: [Wikitech-l] Standardizing highest priority in Bugzilla

2012-11-27 Thread Antoine Musso
Le 27/11/12 17:49, David Gerard a écrit : On 27 November 2012 16:39, Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org wrote: I propose adding a *new* priority called Immediate which should only be used to mark really urgent stuff to fix. This priority would be added above the existing Highest priority.

Re: [Wikitech-l] wikivoyage.com

2012-11-27 Thread Platonides
On 27/11/12 12:45, Sébastien Santoro wrote: What would you suggest exactly? Than wikivoyage.com is transfered to the fundation and redirect to wikivoyage.org, like we do with wikipedia.com? That seems the appropiate route. ___ Wikitech-l mailing

Re: [Wikitech-l] wikivoyage.com

2012-11-27 Thread Erik Moeller
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 1:19 PM, Platonides platoni...@gmail.com wrote: On 27/11/12 12:45, Sébastien Santoro wrote: What would you suggest exactly? Than wikivoyage.com is transfered to the fundation and redirect to wikivoyage.org, like we do with wikipedia.com? That seems the appropiate

Re: [Wikitech-l] Standardizing highest priority in Bugzilla

2012-11-27 Thread Platonides
On 27/11/12 19:26, Arthur Richards wrote: After thinking about this some more, I realized that my reaction to the proposal in part came from feeling apprehensive about external forces defining bug priorities/resolution timelines, and thereby defining how a team must respond to issues in

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikimediauk-l] AdBlock Plus wants to protect you from a malicious website, namely Wikimedia UK

2012-11-27 Thread David Gerard
On 27 November 2012 21:58, rexx r...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: The ability to turn this on or off for your browser is unfortunately hidden away in a tab in the 'Filter preferences ...' of ABP. There's also an individual whitelist there. It's probably worth reading the developer's blog at

Re: [Wikitech-l] Priorities in Bugzilla

2012-11-27 Thread Tim Landscheidt
Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org wrote: [...] So in a mysterious future not that far away, I'd like to merge Normal and Low, or Low and Lowest priorities. Combined with a new Immediate priority as proposed above (quoting myself), we would keep the same number of priorities, but we'd