[Wikitech-l] Happy Sysadmin Appreciation Day!

2013-07-26 Thread Manuel Schneider
my congratulations and all the best! /Manuel -- Wikimedia CH - Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens Lausanne, +41 (21) 34066-22 - www.wikimedia.ch ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] Long term strategy for math on wikipedia

2013-07-26 Thread tei''
some mussing, Why the exact size is needed? can't the formula be put inside a box big enough, so 90% of the time the browser don't have to re-layout all the page?. Its other re-layour happening here? maybe the MathJax build the formula incrementally and the browser try to render every iteration?

Re: [Wikitech-l] New PATCH_TO_REVIEW status in Wikimedia Bugzilla

2013-07-26 Thread Andre Klapper
On Thu, 2013-07-25 at 12:03 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: The plan is to soon make Gerrit set this status automatically in a bug report in Bugzilla (via the patch in [2]) when a patch mentions a bug number (see the commit message guidelines in [3]). Thanks to Christian this is now the case: The

Re: [Wikitech-l] Happy Sysadmin Appreciation Day!

2013-07-26 Thread Sumana Harihareswara
On 07/26/2013 03:09 AM, Manuel Schneider wrote: my congratulations and all the best! /Manuel I second this sentiment. :) People who want to understand what the Wikimedia Foundation operations staff does might like a blog post from February.[0] Ops is under Technical Operations in

[Wikitech-l] Pywikipediabot migrating to git today

2013-07-26 Thread Sumana Harihareswara
Today the pywikipedia project is migrating from Subversion to Git. If you operate a bot, and you are currently checking out pywikipedia's source code from Subversion, please see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Pywikipediabot/Gerrit to learn how to switch. Thank you, pywikipediabot

[Wikitech-l] Announcement: Mark y Markus leading MediaWiki Release Management

2013-07-26 Thread Greg Grossmeier
Full announcement on the blog: http://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/07/26/future-third-party-releases-mediawiki/ Today, the Wikimedia Foundation is pleased to announce that we have contracted with two long-time members of the MediaWiki community–Mark Hershberger and Markus Glaser–to manage and drive

Re: [Wikitech-l] Long term strategy for math on wikipedia

2013-07-26 Thread Peter Krautzberger
@Oscar I'd rather not to hijack this thread any further. Could you take this to mathjax-...@googlegroups.com? @Martin thanks for your comments and the link to the demo! Just one slight correction regarding MathJax. Converting typesetting of TeX and MathML are basically identical in speed. But

Re: [Wikitech-l] Listing missing words of wiktionnaries

2013-07-26 Thread Lars Aronsson
On 07/23/2013 11:23 AM, Mathieu Stumpf wrote: Here is what I would like to do : generating reports which give, for a given language, a list of words which are used on the web with a number evaluating its occurencies, but which are not in a given wiktionary. How would you recommand to

[Wikitech-l] Uninstall UploadBlacklist extension from Wikimedia wikis (bug 52056)

2013-07-26 Thread MZMcBride
Hi. https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52056 I've proposed uninstalling the UploadBlacklist extension from Wikimedia wikis. My reasoning: * it's a very small extension whose configured blacklist, as far as I'm aware, hasn't been updated in years; * the AbuseFilter now supports

Re: [Wikitech-l] [MediaWiki-l] Announcement: Mark y Markus leading MediaWiki Release Management

2013-07-26 Thread Markus Glaser
Wjhonson, you can find the log here: http://bots.wmflabs.org/~wm-bot/logs/%23wikimedia-office/20130620.txt Cheers, Markus -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: mediawiki-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:mediawiki-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] Im Auftrag von Wjhonson Gesendet: Freitag,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Announcement: Mark y Markus leading MediaWiki Release Management

2013-07-26 Thread Andre Klapper
On Fri, 2013-07-26 at 08:41 -0700, Greg Grossmeier wrote: Today, the Wikimedia Foundation is pleased to announce that we have contracted with two long-time members of the MediaWiki community–Mark Hershberger and Markus Glaser–to manage and drive forward third-party focused releases of

Re: [Wikitech-l] Announcement: Mark y Markus leading MediaWiki Release Management

2013-07-26 Thread Ryan Lane
On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 8:41 AM, Greg Grossmeier g...@wikimedia.org wrote: Full announcement on the blog: http://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/07/26/future-third-party-releases-mediawiki/ Today, the Wikimedia Foundation is pleased to announce that we have contracted with two long-time members of

[Wikitech-l] WMF deployment highlights - week of July 29th, 2013

2013-07-26 Thread Greg Grossmeier
Hello and welcome to the latest installment of the WMF Deployment Highlights for the week of July 29th, 2013. As always, the full schedule with more details can be found here: https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Deployments == Monday == * VisualEditor will be enabled for non-logged in

Re: [Wikitech-l] WMF deployment highlights - week of July 29th, 2013

2013-07-26 Thread Greg Grossmeier
quote name=Greg Grossmeier date=2013-07-26 time=11:59:19 -0700 == Monday == * VisualEditor will be enabled for non-logged in (anonymous) users on the following Wikipedias: ** German, Spanish, French, Italian, Polish, and Swedish I forgot Russian! There are 7 Wikipedias where this will

[Wikitech-l] Collaborative machine translation for Wikipedia -- proposed strategy

2013-07-26 Thread David Cuenca
After Erik's email about supporting open source machine translation [1], I've been researching options and having talks with several machine translation researchers about what would be the best way to integrate MT into Wikipedia. Unfortunately I couldn't find a single solution that, on its own,

[Wikitech-l] WMF Engineering Roadmap update - 2013-07-26

2013-07-26 Thread Greg Grossmeier
Below you can find the condensed version of changes made to the WMF Engineering Roadmap made over the last week. For the full roadmap, see: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Roadmap For the diff used to create the below summary, see:

Re: [Wikitech-l] WMF deployment highlights - week of July 29th, 2013

2013-07-26 Thread Juergen Fenn
2013/7/26 Greg Grossmeier g...@wikimedia.org: == Monday == * VisualEditor will be enabled for non-logged in (anonymous) users on the following Wikipedias: ** German, Spanish, French, Italian, Polish, and Swedish I just would like to point out that it would be a sign of respect towards the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Announcement: Mark y Markus leading MediaWiki Release Management

2013-07-26 Thread Petr Bena
Marrk!! \o :-) Congrats man and good luck On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 8:14 PM, Ryan Lane rlan...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 8:41 AM, Greg Grossmeier g...@wikimedia.org wrote: Full announcement on the blog:

Re: [Wikitech-l] WMF deployment highlights - week of July 29th, 2013

2013-07-26 Thread MZMcBride
Juergen Fenn wrote: 2013/7/26 Greg Grossmeier g...@wikimedia.org: == Monday == * VisualEditor will be enabled for non-logged in (anonymous) users on the following Wikipedias: ** German, Spanish, French, Italian, Polish, and Swedish I just would like to point out that it would be a sign of

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Pywikipedia-l] We are officially using Gerrit now :)

2013-07-26 Thread Merlijn van Deen
On 26 July 2013 23:35, Amir Ladsgroup ladsgr...@gmail.com wrote: SVN server is now read-only and I made a test commit in gerrit system [1] you can read more about the migration in the blog post [2] I also just shut down the SVN-to-git migration script! some changes are made too:

[Wikitech-l] Git migration: complete

2013-07-26 Thread Chad
With the moving of pywikibot to Gerrit today, the last projects actively using SVN have been moved over to Git. As such, SVN is now a read-only service and the migration is done (of course any old SVN projects can always be migrated to Git/Gerrit, that's easy). Thanks to everyone for your

Re: [Wikitech-l] Git migration: complete

2013-07-26 Thread Yuvi Panda
Huge thanks to everyone involved in / responsible for the migration, and those responsible for the awesomely comprehensive documentation. \o/ Next step: Rewrite mediawiki to run on nodejs + go + mongodb... ___ Wikitech-l mailing list

Re: [Wikitech-l] WMF deployment highlights - week of July 29th, 2013

2013-07-26 Thread C. Scott Ananian
Without fanning the flames unduly, I'll note that VE is already enabled by default for all registered users on de.wikipedia.org, and that the linked vote on the de wiki was just initiated today and has not yet even proceeded past the do we think the question is well-formed enough to vote on stage

Re: [Wikitech-l] Git migration: complete

2013-07-26 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 5:59 PM, Yuvi Panda yuvipa...@gmail.com wrote: Next step: Rewrite mediawiki to run on nodejs + go + mongodb... Who told you about the parsoid/VE team's secret plans? --scott ps. with the exception of the 'go' part and the mongodb part -- (http://cscott.net)

Re: [Wikitech-l] Git migration: complete

2013-07-26 Thread Yuvi Panda
On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 3:40 AM, C. Scott Ananian canan...@wikimedia.org wrote: Who told you about the parsoid/VE team's secret plans? --scott It's too late, I know everything - including the plan to use darcs scm to replace the revision table and cuneiform to replace wikitext. -- Yuvi Panda

Re: [Wikitech-l] Git migration: complete

2013-07-26 Thread Trevor Parscal
Don't forget using git (or git compatible system) as a revision backend. Extensions being developed on-wiki, gadgets defining their own API extensions, JavaScript templates generating HTML DOM trees, human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together... mass hysteria! - Trevor On Fri, Jul 26, 2013

Re: [Wikitech-l] Git migration: complete

2013-07-26 Thread Yuvi Panda
On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 4:11 AM, Trevor Parscal tpars...@wikimedia.org wrote: Don't forget using git (or git compatible system) as a revision backend. That is darcs! -- Yuvi Panda T http://yuvi.in/blog ___ Wikitech-l mailing list

Re: [Wikitech-l] Git migration: complete

2013-07-26 Thread Trevor Parscal
On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 3:43 PM, Yuvi Panda yuvipa...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 4:11 AM, Trevor Parscal tpars...@wikimedia.org wrote: Don't forget using git (or git compatible system) as a revision backend. That is darcs! Somehow I missed that. Reading the page, thinking

Re: [Wikitech-l] WMF deployment highlights - week of July 29th, 2013

2013-07-26 Thread Juergen Fenn
2013/7/27 C. Scott Ananian canan...@wikimedia.org: Without fanning the flames unduly, I'll note that VE is already enabled by default for all registered users on de.wikipedia.org, and that the linked vote on the de wiki was just initiated today and has not yet even proceeded past the do we

Re: [Wikitech-l] Git migration: complete

2013-07-26 Thread Sumana Harihareswara
On 07/26/2013 05:57 PM, Chad wrote: With the moving of pywikibot to Gerrit today, the last projects actively using SVN have been moved over to Git. As such, SVN is now a read-only service and the migration is done (of course any old SVN projects can always be migrated to Git/Gerrit, that's

Re: [Wikitech-l] WMF deployment highlights - week of July 29th, 2013

2013-07-26 Thread Greg Grossmeier
quote name=Greg Grossmeier date=2013-07-26 time=12:06:37 -0700 quote name=Greg Grossmeier date=2013-07-26 time=11:59:19 -0700 == Monday == * VisualEditor will be enabled for non-logged in (anonymous) users on the following Wikipedias: ** German, Spanish, French, Italian, Polish, and

Re: [Wikitech-l] WMF deployment highlights - week of July 29th, 2013

2013-07-26 Thread John Vandenberg
My guess is nlwp was excluded because of high impact bugs, rather than a non-technical reason. https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49400 The high-ish impact bug I know of for German Wikipedia is https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51119 (but that is on dab pages, which

Re: [Wikitech-l] Git migration: complete

2013-07-26 Thread Roan Kattouw
On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote: With the moving of pywikibot to Gerrit today, the last projects actively using SVN have been moved over to Git. As such, SVN is now a read-only service and the migration is done (of course any old SVN projects can always be

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikimedia-l] Updates on VE data analysis

2013-07-26 Thread James Salsman
Dario, Do you intend to measure the total number of edits per day prior to and after the visual editor roll-out? It appears that you have not analyzed or presented any data associated with those statistics. For example, why are you not providing a daily version of the hourly graph at

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikimedia-l] Updates on VE data analysis

2013-07-26 Thread James Salsman
On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 7:28 PM, Dario Taraborelli dtarabore...@wikimedia.org wrote: ... We do have a graph of total hourly edits on enwiki across mainspaces here: http://ee-dashboard.wmflabs.org/graphs/enwiki_edits_api - it's trivial to bin by day and filter to the main namespace only, I'll

Re: [Wikitech-l] Remove 'visualeditor-enable' from $wgHiddenPrefs

2013-07-26 Thread Erik Moeller
On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 8:44 PM, Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org wrote: Newcomers with the VisualEditor were ~43% less likely to save a single edit than editors with the wikitext editor (x^2=279.4, p0.001), meaning that Visual Editor presented nearly a 2:1 increase in editing difficulty.

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikimedia-l] Updates on VE data analysis

2013-07-26 Thread Tilman Bayer
On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 5:52 PM, James Salsman jsals...@gmail.com wrote: For example, why are you not providing a daily version of the hourly graph at http://ee-dashboard.wmflabs.org/graphs/enwiki_ve_hourly_by_ui ? Note that if you are interested in VE edits per user type instead,

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikimedia-l] Updates on VE data analysis

2013-07-26 Thread Dan Andreescu
Note that if you are interested in VE edits per user type instead, http://ee-dashboard.wmflabs.org/graphs/enwiki_ve_hourly_perc_by_user_type already offers a smoothing option (click the spanner icon on the top left), which can be set to 24 hours or more. The 24 hour smoothing can also be set

Re: [Wikitech-l] Collaborative machine translation for Wikipedia -- proposed strategy

2013-07-26 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 3:25 PM, David Cuenca dacu...@gmail.com wrote: This is the preliminary draft: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Collaborative_Machine_Translation_for_Wikipedia The linked page says: For this kind of project it is prefered to use a rule-based machine

Re: [Wikitech-l] [GSoC] IMPORTANT: Mentor Midterm Evaluations 29 July - 2 August

2013-07-26 Thread Sumana Harihareswara
On 07/23/2013 04:45 PM, Lydia Pintscher wrote: On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 6:47 PM, Raylton P. Sousa raylton.so...@gmail.com wrote: If you both will be traveling, who will do the work of the org adm. Eg. on IRC Me. I am available on IRC until Monday. I would assume you are all old enough to