Re: [Wikitech-l] jQuery UI 1.10.4 and IE6 support

2014-07-28 Thread Krinkle
Support can mean either depending on the context. Most of this is uncontroversial, but I found it useful to think through and sum up. From a platform perspective to support a browser means that the user experience is considered acceptable, tested against, and we're committed to keeping it that

Re: [Wikitech-l] Pywikibot bug triage

2014-07-28 Thread Amir Ladsgroup
Pywikibot bug triage is finished now and during the event 189 bugs were changed and 39 one of them were closed. Considering that pywikibot currently has about 450 bugs, that's quite good. A big thank you to people who joined and participated. Best On 7/3/14, Amir Ladsgroup ladsgr...@gmail.com

[Wikitech-l] Welcoming Joel Sahleen to the Language Engineering team

2014-07-28 Thread Alolita Sharma
Hi Everyone, Please join me in welcoming Joel Sahleen as software engineer in the Language Engineering team. Joel joins us from Adobe where he has been a globalization engineer for the past 5 years. He developed the internationalization and localization system for PHP components used in the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Welcoming Joel Sahleen to the Language Engineering team

2014-07-28 Thread James Forrester
On 28 July 2014 07:45, Alolita Sharma asha...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hi Everyone, Please join me in welcoming Joel Sahleen as software engineer in the Language Engineering team. ​Welcome aboard, Joel!​ ​Yours, -- James D. Forrester Product Manager, Editing Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.

[Wikitech-l] What does a hackathon cost?

2014-07-28 Thread Maarten Dammers
Hi everyone, Different chapters are looking into organizing next years hackathon. One of the recurring questions is how much it costs to organize such an event. To make it easier to answer this question we published the budget of the Amsterdam hackathon at

Re: [Wikitech-l] New RfC: server-side Javascript error logging

2014-07-28 Thread Nuria
I would probably recommend using the existing EventLogging infrastructure for sending the data to our back end, assuming it won't explode under heavy load spikes... Which it might. :) Eventlogging is not the best choice. Besides not handling bursts of traffic it is -currently- a tier-2

Re: [Wikitech-l] What does a hackathon cost?

2014-07-28 Thread Manuel Schneider
Am 28.07.2014 18:36, schrieb Maarten Dammers: Different chapters are looking into organizing next years hackathon. One of the recurring questions is how much it costs to organize such an event. To make it easier to answer this question we published the budget of the Amsterdam hackathon at

[Wikitech-l] MediaWiki Language Extension Bundle 2014.07 release

2014-07-28 Thread Kartik Mistry
Hello all, I would like to announce the release of MediaWiki Language Extension Bundle 2014.07. This bundle is compatible with MediaWiki 1.23.x and MediaWiki 1.22.x releases. * Download: https://translatewiki.net/mleb/MediaWikiLanguageExtensionBundle-2014.07.tar.bz2 * sha256sum:

[Wikitech-l] Moving Vector and MonoBook to separate repositories and what it means for you

2014-07-28 Thread Bartosz Dziewoński
tl;dr: I am going to break your workflow and your wiki. Skip to the last section and read on. == Background == As you know, I've been working on a GSoC project to better separate skins and core MediaWiki [1]. Moving Vector and MonoBook to separate repositories is the final step of it, and it's

[Wikitech-l] MediaWiki now supports PBKDF2 and Bcrypt

2014-07-28 Thread Tyler Romeo
Hi everybody, I was on the brink of celebrating the one-year anniversary of a patch I submitted being open, but today it was finally merged! https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/77645 The old User::comparePasswords() and User::crypt() functions have been replaced with a new password hashing API.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Moving Vector and MonoBook to separate repositories and what it means for you

2014-07-28 Thread Maarten Dammers
Hi Bartosz, Sounds good. Bartosz Dziewoński schreef op 28-7-2014 20:53: If you're upgrading a wiki or you're a developer working on master, THIS IS A BACKWARDS INCOMPATIBLE CHANGE. Your wiki will continue to work, it will just look ugly (no styles). And I assume whatever MediaWiki version this

Re: [Wikitech-l] Moving Vector and MonoBook to separate repositories and what it means for you

2014-07-28 Thread John
Why not just move them to an extension? moving them to their own repo begs for a headaches On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 4:50 PM, Maarten Dammers maar...@mdammers.nl wrote: Hi Bartosz, Sounds good. Bartosz Dziewoński schreef op 28-7-2014 20:53: If you're upgrading a wiki or you're a developer

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki now supports PBKDF2 and Bcrypt

2014-07-28 Thread Pine W
Thank you. Out of curiosity, why bcrypt and not scrypt? There is debate in the security community about which is better so my comment isn't intended as criticism. I'm just interested in the thinking behind this decision. Thanks, Pine On Jul 28, 2014 1:35 PM, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com

Re: [Wikitech-l] Moving Vector and MonoBook to separate repositories and what it means for you

2014-07-28 Thread Bartosz Dziewoński
On Mon, 28 Jul 2014 22:50:49 +0200, Maarten Dammers maar...@mdammers.nl wrote: And I assume whatever MediaWiki version this will be packaged into should will include an upgrade script for people who just bump one version? There is no need for an upgrade script. If you're upgrading using

Re: [Wikitech-l] Moving Vector and MonoBook to separate repositories and what it means for you

2014-07-28 Thread Bartosz Dziewoński
On Mon, 28 Jul 2014 22:59:40 +0200, John phoenixoverr...@gmail.com wrote: Why not just move them to an extension? moving them to their own repo begs for a headaches I don't understand the problem you see here nor the solution you're proposing. Elaborate? -- Matma Rex

Re: [Wikitech-l] Moving Vector and MonoBook to separate repositories and what it means for you

2014-07-28 Thread John
I use a standard git checkout. Moving these to their own separate location is going to be a pain in the ass. If the skins are moved to the existing extension system it causes far fewer problems and does not introduce additional steps in upgrading/maintaining a site. When we start having sub repos

[Wikitech-l] MediaWiki third-party release managers

2014-07-28 Thread Greg Grossmeier
I am pleased to announce (after far too long of a delay, my apologies), that Mark Hershberger and Markus Glaser will take on the task of managing the third-party releases of MediaWiki for another year. Congrats Mark and Markus! I'd like to explicitly thank the International Consortium team for

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki now supports PBKDF2 and Bcrypt

2014-07-28 Thread Tyler Romeo
On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you. Out of curiosity, why bcrypt and not scrypt? There is debate in the security community about which is better so my comment isn't intended as criticism. I'm just interested in the thinking behind this decision. It

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki now supports PBKDF2 and Bcrypt

2014-07-28 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - From: Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com It is a matter of stability in PHP. Bcrypt has built-in support in PHP, as does PBKDF2, whereas scrypt requires an extension. It should be noted, however, that the patch that was merged implements an extensible password API,