Re: [Wikitech-l] A potential new way to deal with spambots

2019-02-13 Thread Pine W
On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 12:13 PM bawolff wrote: > I actually meant a different type of maintenance. > > Maintaining the encyclopedia (and other wiki projects) is of course an > activity that needs software support. > > But software is also something that needs maintenance. Technology, >

Re: [Wikitech-l] GSoC' 19 project idea ( proposal)

2019-02-13 Thread Andrew Lih
Hi, actually that Research:Data page seems stale. It says: "Wikimedia broadcasts every change to every Wikimedia wiki using the Socket.IO protocol," whereas the current preferred way is to use SSE. You should take a look at: https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/EventStreams I recently created a

[Wikitech-l] Discovery Weekly Update for the week starting 2019-02-04

2019-02-13 Thread Chris Koerner
Hello, This is the weekly update from the Search Platform team for the week starting 2019-02-04. As always, feedback and questions welcome. == Discussions == === Search === * Based on feedback received during a conversation at All Hands, Erik wrote up a page documenting how to utilize

[Wikitech-l] 2019-02-13 Scrum of Scrums meeting notes

2019-02-13 Thread Grace Gellerman
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Scrum_of_scrums/2019-02-13 = 2019-02-13 = == Callouts == * Fundraising campaigns https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/CentralNotice/Calendar * Release Engineering: Beta Cluster and CI issues https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/cloud/2019-February/000538.html * SRE:

Re: [Wikitech-l] A potential new way to deal with spambots

2019-02-13 Thread Jonathan Morgan
Brian, I think we may be talking past each other. I'm Mr. Socio-technical systems. I thought what was being requested was a way to detect bots. I maintain my own bots, work extensively with product teams, and have a deep and abiding familiarity with the complexity of designing effective tools

[Wikitech-l] Beta Cluster and CI issues (was Fwd: [Cloud] [Cloud-announce] VPS hardware failure -- downtime ongoing)

2019-02-13 Thread Greg Grossmeier
This WMCS outage is affecting Beta Cluster (aka: deployment-pre VPS project) and our CI build/test servers (aka: the integration project). Apologies for any downtime and/or slow CI responses while this is being sorted. Greg - Forwarded message from Andrew Bogott - > Date: Wed, 13 Feb

[Wikitech-l] MediaWiki PHP coding conventions for declaring return types

2019-02-13 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
I've started a discussion at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual_talk:Coding_conventions/PHP#Declaring_of_return_types. Please comment there if interested. -- Brad Jorsch (Anomie) Senior Software Engineer Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikitech-l mailing

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikimedia production excellence (January 2019)

2019-02-13 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 10:54 PM Krinkle wrote: > Brad fixed the code a few hours later, and it was deployed by Roan later > that same day. > Thanks! — https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T213168 > Correction: It was Gergő Tisza who submitted the patch to fix the code for this one, not me. --

Re: [Wikitech-l] A potential new way to deal with spambots

2019-02-13 Thread John Erling Blad
It is extremely easy to detect a bot unless the bot operator chose to make it hard. Just make a model for how the user interacts with the input devices, and do anomaly detection. That imply use of Javascript though, but users not using JS are either very dubious or quite well-known. There are

Re: [Wikitech-l] A potential new way to deal with spambots

2019-02-13 Thread bawolff
I actually meant a different type of maintenance. Maintaining the encyclopedia (and other wiki projects) is of course an activity that needs software support. But software is also something that needs maintenance. Technology, standards, circumstances change over time. Software left alone will