Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikipedia Android app – Support Wikipedia version

2011-10-08 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - From: Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org They are? Perhaps I've missed something big... (Oh: you said user-friendly) Yeah. In-app billing is a feature of the Android Market platform and described here:

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikipedia Android app – Support Wikipedia version

2011-10-08 Thread Neil Kandalgaonkar
On 10/8/11 7:21 AM, Jay Ashworth wrote: - Original Message - From: Erik Moellere...@wikimedia.org They are? Perhaps I've missed something big... (Oh: you said user-friendly) Yeah. In-app billing is a feature of the Android Market platform and described here:

[Wikitech-l] Wikipedia Android app – Support Wikipedia version

2011-10-07 Thread church.of.emacs.ml
(Cross-posting this to fundraising mailing list, as I suspect not many Fundraisers read Wikitech-l) Summary: WMF is going to release an Android Wikipedia app shortly (other mobile OS will get an app, too) On 10/07/2011 03:25 AM, Tomasz Finc wrote: One good question that Brion just asked me was

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikipedia Android app – Support Wikipedia version

2011-10-07 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - From: church.of.emacs.ml church.of.emacs...@googlemail.com How about making a free version and an (identical!) Support Wikipedia version that has absolutly the same features, but costs $2 that go to WMF as a donation? :) Why we should do this: It's an extremly

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikipedia Android app – Support Wikipedia version

2011-10-07 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi. One distinct advantage of daily builds is that you use these to distribute improved localisations... Will this app come to translatewiki.net ? If so, it does make sense to build this functionality that is similar to what is offered by thr localisationupdate extrnsion. Thanks, GerardM

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikipedia Android app – Support Wikipedia version

2011-10-07 Thread Brion Vibber
2011/10/7 Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com Hoi. One distinct advantage of daily builds is that you use these to distribute improved localisations... Will this app come to translatewiki.net ? If so, it does make sense to build this functionality that is similar to what is offered by

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikipedia Android app – Support Wikipedia version

2011-10-07 Thread Brion Vibber
2011/10/7 church.of.emacs.ml church.of.emacs...@googlemail.com How about making a free version and an (identical!) Support Wikipedia version that has absolutly the same features, but costs $2 that go to WMF as a donation? :) Why we should do this: It's an extremly simple way for users to

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikipedia Android app – Support Wikipedia version

2011-10-07 Thread Brion Vibber
2011/10/7 Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com On a separate topic, it would probably be useful if someone built nightlies of the repo, so that those of us who are good usability test types but not necessarily coders or set up to build can contribute too; the original announcement didn't sound like

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikipedia Android app – Support Wikipedia version

2011-10-07 Thread David Gerard
2011/10/7 Brion Vibber br...@pobox.com: Note that the app-store middlemen take a 30% transaction fee, so we'd get $140k and Google or Amazon (or Apple if we do an iPhone version same way) gets $60k. 30% sounds high but probably isn't much worse than individual $2 credit card payments. :) I

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikipedia Android app – Support Wikipedia version

2011-10-07 Thread Tomasz Finc
How about we negotiate 0% transaction charge and they match the donation. It shows their support and is chump change to them. On Oct 7, 2011 9:47 AM, Brion Vibber br...@pobox.com wrote: 2011/10/7 church.of.emacs.ml church.of.emacs...@googlemail.com How about making a free version and an

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikipedia Android app – Support Wikipedia version

2011-10-07 Thread Tomasz Finc
Phone Gap build might be able to do this for us. If not I'm sure were could rig something up. On Oct 7, 2011 9:52 AM, Brion Vibber br...@pobox.com wrote: 2011/10/7 Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com On a separate topic, it would probably be useful if someone built nightlies of the repo, so that

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikipedia Android app – Support Wikipedia version

2011-10-07 Thread Steven Walling
2011/10/7 Tomasz Finc tf...@wikimedia.org Phone Gap build might be able to do this for us. If not I'm sure were could rig something up. I think rather than have two identical versions in the Market, which would no doubt confuse a great many people, I would strongly suggest that we implement a

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikipedia Android app – Support Wikipedia version

2011-10-07 Thread church.of.emacs.ml
On 10/07/2011 11:07 PM, Steven Walling wrote: I think rather than have two identical versions in the Market, which would no doubt confuse a great many people, I would strongly suggest that we implement a pay what you want sliding scale for our apps on both iPhone and Android. If X app store

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikipedia Android app – Support Wikipedia version

2011-10-07 Thread Peter Kaminski
It would be really cool to be able to donate via in-app billing. Pete On 10/7/11 14:35 PM, church.of.emacs.ml wrote: So I think we'll have to stick to fixed donation amounts. If someone really wants to contribute a different amount, he can just use at donate.wikimedia.org :)

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikipedia Android app – Support Wikipedia version

2011-10-07 Thread Steven Walling
2011/10/7 Peter Kaminski kamin...@istori.com It would be really cool to be able to donate via in-app billing. Pete Yes! I think in-app payments as prompts for donations (even if just during the annual fundraiser, or say, once right after you download) is a good alternative idea too. Steven

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikipedia Android app – Support Wikipedia version

2011-10-07 Thread Jon Davis
2011/10/7 Peter Kaminski kamin...@istori.com It would be really cool to be able to donate via in-app billing. Pete While in-app billing for donations is a cool idea, we'd need to make sure we're going to get more than 70% of the donations. Granted 70% is better than the 0% we get now for

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikipedia Android app – Support Wikipedia version

2011-10-07 Thread Guillaume Paumier
Hi, 2011/10/7 Steven Walling steven.wall...@gmail.com: I think rather than have two identical versions in the Market, which would no doubt confuse a great many people [...] I'm not sure about this confusion thing. It's pretty common to have two identical versions of the same app, with one

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikipedia Android app – Support Wikipedia version

2011-10-07 Thread Steven Walling
2011/10/7 Guillaume Paumier gpaum...@wikimedia.org Hi, 2011/10/7 Steven Walling steven.wall...@gmail.com: I think rather than have two identical versions in the Market, which would no doubt confuse a great many people [...] I'm not sure about this confusion thing. It's pretty common to

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikipedia Android app – Support Wikipedia version

2011-10-07 Thread Bence Damokos
2011/10/8 Steven Walling steven.wall...@gmail.com: 2011/10/7 Guillaume Paumier gpaum...@wikimedia.org Hi, 2011/10/7 Steven Walling steven.wall...@gmail.com: I think rather than have two identical versions in the Market, which would no doubt confuse a great many people [...] I'm not

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikipedia Android app – Support Wikipedia version

2011-10-07 Thread Guillaume Paumier
2011/10/7 Steven Walling steven.wall...@gmail.com: I've not once seen two identical apps by the same company, but one for pay arbitrarily. There are premium versions with additional features, but that's not what we're talking about here. There are some at

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikipedia Android app – Support Wikipedia version

2011-10-07 Thread Steven Walling
2011/10/7 Bence Damokos bdamo...@gmail.com [1] https://market.android.com/details?id=net.osmandfeature=search_result https://market.android.com/details?id=net.osmand.plusfeature=search_result http://code.google.com/p/osmand/ [2] https://market.android.com/search?q=donateso=1c=apps Heh.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikipedia Android app – Support Wikipedia version

2011-10-07 Thread Tomasz Finc
Calling any devs that want to make this be a reality https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31513 Help us code in app donations. --tomasz 2011/10/7 Steven Walling steven.wall...@gmail.com: 2011/10/7 Peter Kaminski kamin...@istori.com It would be really cool to be able to donate via

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikipedia Android app – Support Wikipedia version

2011-10-07 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - From: Brion Vibber br...@pobox.com 2011/10/7 Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com On a separate topic, it would probably be useful if someone built nightlies of the repo, so that those of us who are good usability test types but not necessarily coders or set up to

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikipedia Android app – Support Wikipedia version

2011-10-07 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - From: Steven Walling steven.wall...@gmail.com 2011/10/7 Tomasz Finc tf...@wikimedia.org Phone Gap build might be able to do this for us. If not I'm sure were could rig something up. I think rather than have two identical versions in the Market, which would

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikipedia Android app – Support Wikipedia version

2011-10-07 Thread Chad
2011/10/7 Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com: - Original Message - From: Steven Walling steven.wall...@gmail.com 2011/10/7 Tomasz Finc tf...@wikimedia.org Phone Gap build might be able to do this for us. If not I'm sure were could rig something up. I think rather than have two

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikipedia Android app – Support Wikipedia version

2011-10-07 Thread Erik Moeller
2011/10/7 Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com: And as an Android user, I absolutely hate when there's two versions of the same app. Supporting in-app donations would be way nicer. Agreed, for other reasons as well (donation options should be easily discoverable by any user). In-app payments in

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikipedia Android app – Support Wikipedia version

2011-10-07 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - From: Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com There are *zillions* of apps in the Android market that are this is the free version, and this is the paid version that supports (our development). And as an Android user, I absolutely hate when there's two versions of

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikipedia Android app – Support Wikipedia version

2011-10-07 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - From: Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org 2011/10/7 Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com: And as an Android user, I absolutely hate when there's two versions of the same app. Supporting in-app donations would be way nicer. Agreed, for other reasons as well (donation

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikipedia Android app – Support Wikipedia version

2011-10-07 Thread Erik Moeller
2011/10/7 Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com: Agreed, for other reasons as well (donation options should be easily discoverable by any user). In-app payments in Android are pretty user-friendly, and I think are the right model here. :-) They are? Perhaps I've missed something big... (Oh: you