Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikidata] [Wikipedia-l] Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia in an abstract language

2019-01-18 Thread John Erling Blad
Tried a couple of times to rewrite this, but it grows out of bound anyhow. Seems like it has its own life. There is a book from 2000 by Robert Dale and Ehud Reiter; Building natural language generation systems ISBN 978-0-521-02451-8 Wikibase items can be rebuilt as Plans from the type statement

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikidata] [Wikipedia-l] Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia in an abstract language

2019-01-15 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Cool, thanks! I read this a while ago, rereading again. On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 3:28 AM Sebastian Hellmann < hellm...@informatik.uni-leipzig.de> wrote: > Hi all, > > let me send you a paper from 2013, which might either help directly or at > least to get some ideas... > > A lemon lexicon for

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikidata] [Wikipedia-l] Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia in an abstract language

2019-01-15 Thread Sebastian Hellmann
Hi all, let me send you a paper from 2013, which might either help directly or at least to get some ideas... A lemon lexicon for DBpedia, Christina Unger, John McCrae, Sebastian Walter, Sara Winter, Philipp Cimiano, 2013, Proceedings of 1st International Workshop on NLP and DBpedia,

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikidata] [Wikipedia-l] Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia in an abstract language

2019-01-14 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Felipe, thanks for the kind words. There are a few research projects that use Wikidata to generate parts of Wikipedia articles - see for example https://arxiv.org/abs/1702.06235 which is almost as good as human results and beats templates by far, but only for the first sentence of biographies.

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikidata] [Wikipedia-l] Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia in an abstract language

2019-01-14 Thread John Erling Blad
An additional note; what Wikipedia urgently needs is a way to create and reuse canned text (aka "templates"), and a way to adapt that text to data from Wikidata. That is mostly just inflection rules, but in some cases it involves grammar rules. To create larger pieces of text is much harder,

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikidata] [Wikipedia-l] Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia in an abstract language

2019-01-14 Thread John Erling Blad
Using an abstract language as an basis for translations have been tried before, and is almost as hard as translating between two common languages. There are two really hard problems, it is the implied references and the cultural context. An artificial language can get rid of the implied