Re: [Wikitech-l] [WikimediaMobile] Cross-Post: Editing + Reading Meeting Notes

2015-07-28 Thread Kevin Smith
That Kanban talk assumes some familiarity with Scrum or other agile software development models, so might not be helpful for everyone. For those who are new to that space, agile development[1] takes a radically different approach than traditional (non-software) project management, or from

Re: [Wikitech-l] [WikimediaMobile] Cross-Post: Editing + Reading Meeting Notes

2015-07-27 Thread James Forrester
[Un-duplicate posting. Unless it's an announcement or critically-urgent, please don't ever do that.] On 27 July 2015 at 11:27, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: I'm happy to hear that VE is coming to mobile web. ​It's not coming (it's been available for tablet users for 18 months); it's being​

Re: [Wikitech-l] [WikimediaMobile] Cross-Post: Editing + Reading Meeting Notes

2015-07-27 Thread Pine W
Adam, I'm happy to hear that VE is coming to mobile web. I'd like to know more about what the plans are for user testing of VE on mobile. Would that happen in late Q2 at the earliest, and how much emphasis will there be on user testing mobile VE while it's in beta? My prime interest is in making

Re: [Wikitech-l] [WikimediaMobile] Cross-Post: Editing + Reading Meeting Notes

2015-07-27 Thread Pine W
James, Thanks. I have a follow up question regarding project management in general. When the length of time for development and testing are unbounded so that product quality is the principal goal, how do you forecast needs for human resources and financial resources? Thanks, Pine On Jul 27,

Re: [Wikitech-l] [WikimediaMobile] Cross-Post: Editing + Reading Meeting Notes

2015-07-27 Thread James Forrester
On 27 July 2015 at 14:44, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: James, Thanks. ​ I have a follow up question regarding project management in general. When the length of time for development and testing are unbounded so that product quality is the principal goal, how do you forecast needs for

Re: [Wikitech-l] [WikimediaMobile] Cross-Post: Editing + Reading Meeting Notes

2015-07-27 Thread Pine W
James, Thanks, that's an interesting answer. Lots of fields other than software struggle with similar issues. For example, I can't remember the last time a major aerospace manufacturer managed to design and build one of their flagship products on schedule, and major public transportation

Re: [Wikitech-l] [WikimediaMobile] Cross-Post: Editing + Reading Meeting Notes

2015-07-27 Thread Brian Wolff
If it wouldn't be a distraction from other priorities, I'm wondering if project management could be the subject of a Tech Talk sometime. (Cc'ing Rachel who I believe coordinates Tech Talks.) Thanks, Pine You mean like Kanban: An alternative to Scrum?