Re: [Wikitech-l] Broken videos

2010-03-17 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 4:02 PM, Marco Schuster wrote: > I hope no one is ever insane enough to use this. Imagine those people > with cellphones and no data transfer flat (~70% of mobile internet > users) - their bills will skyrocket when even a single video is set to > auto-preload. On Wed, Mar

Re: [Wikitech-l] Broken videos

2010-03-17 Thread Marco Schuster
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 9:11 PM, Trevor Parscal wrote: > On 3/17/10 1:02 PM, Marco Schuster wrote: >> On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 5:37 PM, Aryeh Gregor >>  wrote: >> >>> On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 10:39 AM, Platonides  wrote: >>> Would it help adding a  to the first video in the page? >>

Re: [Wikitech-l] Broken videos

2010-03-17 Thread Trevor Parscal
On 3/17/10 1:02 PM, Marco Schuster wrote: > On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 5:37 PM, Aryeh Gregor > wrote: > >> On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 10:39 AM, Platonides wrote: >> >>> Would it help adding a to the first video in the page? >>> >> In Firefox, yes. Does anyone else implement that?

Re: [Wikitech-l] Broken videos

2010-03-17 Thread Marco Schuster
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 5:37 PM, Aryeh Gregor wrote: > On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 10:39 AM, Platonides wrote: >> Would it help adding a to the first video in the page? > > In Firefox, yes.  Does anyone else implement that?  If it's only > Firefox, we could just as well replace Cortado with > to be

Re: [Wikitech-l] Broken videos

2010-03-17 Thread Platonides
Aryeh Gregor wrote: >> BTW, the current video handling doesn't work without javascript. I >> thought we provided a link in such case. Now there's just an useless button. > > There's always a link on the File: page itself, no? Yes, there's an info image which leads you to the File: page. Where you

Re: [Wikitech-l] Broken videos

2010-03-17 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 10:39 AM, Platonides wrote: > Would it help adding a to the first video in the page? In Firefox, yes. Does anyone else implement that? If it's only Firefox, we could just as well replace Cortado with to begin with as soon as the page loads. In Chrome and Safari, we do

Re: [Wikitech-l] Broken videos

2010-03-17 Thread Platonides
Gregory Maxwell wrote: > In any case, none of the video on wikimedia sits is "autoplay" in the > sense that it starts on its own. The video tag itself is set to > autoplay, but the tag doesn't get inserted into the page until the > user clicks. No video surprises. (Unfortunately this process doe

Re: [Wikitech-l] Broken videos

2010-03-16 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Tei wrote: >> In any case, video and audio are in the same boat as Jpeg/png, +/- >> some differences in software maturity.  There aren't any known or >> expected malware vectors for them. > Agreed. But seems possible to generate streams of video that crash the > b

Re: [Wikitech-l] Broken videos

2010-03-16 Thread Tei
On 16 March 2010 15:04, Gregory Maxwell wrote: .. > On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 6:52 AM, Tei wrote: >> Uh..  buffer overflow errors, complex file format loaders  in >> programming languages like C Or false assumptions about memory >> management with poor detection error and fatal consecuences.  M

Re: [Wikitech-l] Broken videos

2010-03-16 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 7:15 AM, Lars Aronsson wrote: > So how do I tell what's wrong? I have a laptop > that is less than half a year old, a clean > Ubuntu Linux 9.10 install and the included > Firefox 3.5.8 browser. This should work, but > these two videos never play more than two seconds > and

Re: [Wikitech-l] Broken videos

2010-03-16 Thread Roan Kattouw
2010/3/16 Lars Aronsson : > We discussed for a long time why OpenOffice documents > can't be uploaded to Wikimedia Commons because the > ZIP encoding wasn't safe and could explode in the > face of the user. Well, maybe OGG isn't safe either? > > Should we just ban video all together? > There's a di

Re: [Wikitech-l] Broken videos

2010-03-16 Thread Tei
On 16 March 2010 10:29, Lars Aronsson wrote: > This past weekend, at the SXSW conference, a new initiative > was launched to "get video on Wikipedia", > http://videoonwikipedia.org/ > > That sounds like a great idea. > Uh.. binary content in a wiki. Well.. the other option are Youtube, that can

Re: [Wikitech-l] Broken videos

2010-03-16 Thread Michel Vuijlsteke
On 16 March 2010 10:29, Lars Aronsson wrote: > But among the first videos to be uploaded since the > announcement are two that show some construction > equipment and both break my browser every time I try > to watch them. How can this be possible with a fully > updated Mozilla Firefox 3.5.8 on Ub

Re: [Wikitech-l] Broken videos

2010-03-16 Thread j
On 03/16/2010 10:29 AM, Lars Aronsson wrote: > This past weekend, at the SXSW conference, a new initiative > was launched to "get video on Wikipedia", > http://videoonwikipedia.org/ > > That sounds like a great idea. > > (I wasn't there, but I was told.) > > But among the first videos to be uplo

[Wikitech-l] Broken videos

2010-03-16 Thread Lars Aronsson
This past weekend, at the SXSW conference, a new initiative was launched to "get video on Wikipedia", http://videoonwikipedia.org/ That sounds like a great idea. (I wasn't there, but I was told.) But among the first videos to be uploaded since the announcement are two that show some construction