Re: [Wikitech-l] Dropping IE6 support (was: MediaWiki security release 1.16.4)

2011-04-14 Thread Siebrand Mazeland
On 14-04-11 10:02 Daniel Kinzler dan...@brightbyte.de wrote: Wow, seriously? IE6 should be taken out the back and shot... You're in luck. These days, even Microsoft agrees with you: http://www.ie6countdown.com/ So when will we be able to drop IE6 support in MediaWiki completely? What

Re: [Wikitech-l] Dropping IE6 support (was: MediaWiki security release 1.16.4)

2011-04-14 Thread Roan Kattouw
2011/4/14 Siebrand Mazeland s.mazel...@xs4all.nl: So when will we be able to drop IE6 support in MediaWiki completely? What metrics/thresholds can we use? IMO there's a difference between no longer supporting IE6 and no longer protecting IE6 users from XSS attacks. I would suggest to set a

Re: [Wikitech-l] Dropping IE6 support

2011-04-14 Thread Daniel Kinzler
On 14.04.2011 11:10, Siebrand Mazeland wrote: On 14-04-11 10:02 Daniel Kinzler dan...@brightbyte.de wrote: Wow, seriously? IE6 should be taken out the back and shot... You're in luck. These days, even Microsoft agrees with you: http://www.ie6countdown.com/ Aw man, someone please spoof

Re: [Wikitech-l] Dropping IE6 support

2011-04-14 Thread Guillaume Paumier
Hi, Le jeudi 14 avril 2011 11:21:57, Daniel Kinzler a écrit : On 14.04.2011 11:10, Siebrand Mazeland wrote: On 14-04-11 10:02 Daniel Kinzler dan...@brightbyte.de wrote: Wow, seriously? IE6 should be taken out the back and shot... You're in luck. These days, even Microsoft agrees with

Re: [Wikitech-l] Dropping IE6 support (was: MediaWiki security release 1.16.4)

2011-04-14 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, The people with IE6 have disproportionally problems with reading Wikipedia in their mother tongue and IE6 can be found particularly in the global south. Also CommScore numbers are unlikely to see this potential. The question is not should we support IE6, it is just that I wonder about what

Re: [Wikitech-l] Dropping IE6 support (was: MediaWiki security release 1.16.4)

2011-04-14 Thread Roan Kattouw
2011/4/14 Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com: Hoi, The people with IE6 have disproportionally problems with reading Wikipedia in their mother tongue and IE6 can be found particularly in the global south. Also CommScore numbers are unlikely to see this potential. The question is not

Re: [Wikitech-l] Dropping IE6 support (was: MediaWiki security release 1.16.4)

2011-04-14 Thread Trevor Parscal
*For reading*, we aim to support any browser with 0.1%[1] use or more. This has both culled things out, like IE 5.5, and surfaced things like NetFront (Sony Playstation Browser). *For security*, if it's possible to protect the site or our users, and we have money in the bank, we should be