Re: [Wikitech-l] Improving CAPTCHA friendliness for humans, and increasing CAPTCHA difficulty for bots

2015-12-17 Thread Quim Gil
On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 7:50 AM, Pine W wrote: > Thanks. Perhaps some work on CAPTCHA could happen via a Project grant once > there is a concrete proposal that's agreeable to the participants and WMF? > Pinging Marti to ask about the possibility. > Bccing Marti because a

Re: [Wikitech-l] Improving CAPTCHA friendliness for humans, and increasing CAPTCHA difficulty for bots

2015-12-16 Thread Dan Garry
Hey Pine, Responses in-line. On 9 December 2015 at 22:14, Pine W wrote: > Hi, just checking to see if CAPTCHA improvements are likely anytime in the > near future. I notice that > https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/board/225/ shows nothing under > "Awaiting code

Re: [Wikitech-l] Improving CAPTCHA friendliness for humans, and increasing CAPTCHA difficulty for bots

2015-12-16 Thread Pine W
Thanks. Perhaps some work on CAPTCHA could happen via a Project grant once there is a concrete proposal that's agreeable to the participants and WMF? Pinging Marti to ask about the possibility. Pine On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 10:46 PM, Dan Garry wrote: > Hey Pine, > >

Re: [Wikitech-l] Improving CAPTCHA friendliness for humans, and increasing CAPTCHA difficulty for bots

2015-12-09 Thread Pine W
Hi, just checking to see if CAPTCHA improvements are likely anytime in the near future. I notice that https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/board/225/ shows nothing under "Awaiting code review". Is anyone working on this? If not, what kind of nudge would be necessary to get some resources

Re: [Wikitech-l] Improving CAPTCHA friendliness for humans, and increasing CAPTCHA difficulty for bots

2015-08-25 Thread Platonides
Jamison Lofthouse wrote: The subject sounds exactly like the reCAPTCHA https://www.google.com/recaptcha/intro/index.html tagline. Not sure how beneficial the project would be but I have seen it used. Maybe worth looking into. Thanks, Negative24 I should note that the latest reCAPTCHA¹ is

Re: [Wikitech-l] Improving CAPTCHA friendliness for humans, and increasing CAPTCHA difficulty for bots

2015-08-25 Thread Dan Garry
On 19 August 2015 at 23:06, Matthew Flaschen mflasc...@wikimedia.org wrote: I agree this is an important issue. It just isn't resourced right now by the WMF, as far as I know. Indeed. There have been numerous discussions about the captcha on this mailing list over the past few years, but no

Re: [Wikitech-l] Improving CAPTCHA friendliness for humans, and increasing CAPTCHA difficulty for bots

2015-08-25 Thread Brian Wolff
On 8/25/15, Dan Garry dga...@wikimedia.org wrote: On 19 August 2015 at 23:06, Matthew Flaschen mflasc...@wikimedia.org wrote: I agree this is an important issue. It just isn't resourced right now by the WMF, as far as I know. Indeed. There have been numerous discussions about the captcha

Re: [Wikitech-l] Improving CAPTCHA friendliness for humans, and increasing CAPTCHA difficulty for bots

2015-08-20 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 08/19/2015 10:17 PM, Jamison Lofthouse wrote: The subject sounds exactly like the reCAPTCHA https://www.google.com/recaptcha/intro/index.html tagline. Not sure how beneficial the project would be but I have seen it used. Maybe worth looking into. Unfortunately, we can not use reCAPTCHA

Re: [Wikitech-l] Improving CAPTCHA friendliness for humans, and increasing CAPTCHA difficulty for bots

2015-08-20 Thread Quim Gil
Hi, On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 8:06 AM, Matthew Flaschen mflasc...@wikimedia.org wrote: On 08/19/2015 10:17 PM, Jamison Lofthouse wrote: The subject sounds exactly like the reCAPTCHA https://www.google.com/recaptcha/intro/index.html tagline. Not sure how beneficial the project would be but I

Re: [Wikitech-l] Improving CAPTCHA friendliness for humans, and increasing CAPTCHA difficulty for bots

2015-08-19 Thread Jamison Lofthouse
The subject sounds exactly like the reCAPTCHA https://www.google.com/recaptcha/intro/index.html tagline. Not sure how beneficial the project would be but I have seen it used. Maybe worth looking into. Thanks, Negative24 On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 2:04 AM Luis Villa lvi...@wikimedia.org wrote:

Re: [Wikitech-l] Improving CAPTCHA friendliness for humans, and increasing CAPTCHA difficulty for bots

2015-08-19 Thread Brian Wolff
On Tuesday, August 18, 2015, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: what's happening with regard to improving usability for humans and increasing the difficulty for bots? Generally speaking, isnt that an open problem in computer science? -- Bawolff ___

Re: [Wikitech-l] Improving CAPTCHA friendliness for humans, and increasing CAPTCHA difficulty for bots

2015-08-19 Thread Luis Villa
Just for the record, this is not a matter for my talk page. I don't encourage using my talk page either to circumvent existing prioritization processes, or to try to resolve deeply complex CS questions. ;) Wikitech (or perhaps Phabricator, depending on the team) is a much more appropriate place

Re: [Wikitech-l] Improving CAPTCHA friendliness for humans, and increasing CAPTCHA difficulty for bots

2015-08-19 Thread Pine W
Brian, Quite likely. (: But the Wikimedia CAPTCHA workboard suggests a lack of emphasis on improving the general CAPTCHA situation for Wikimedia. The two high priority tasks on that Phabricator workboard last received comments in May and June. Those dates, plus the relative quiet on this mailing

[Wikitech-l] Improving CAPTCHA friendliness for humans, and increasing CAPTCHA difficulty for bots

2015-08-18 Thread Pine W
I see that there's an active workboard in Phabricator at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/board/225/ for CAPTCHA issues. Returning to a subject that has been discussed several times before: the last I heard is that our current CAPTCHAs do block some spambots, but they also present