Re: [Wikitech-l] On proper sorting using CLDR

2010-06-11 Thread Domas Mituzas
That could even be done internally. Indeed, for some languages sortkeys can be implicitly populated with certain rules applied on text. Unfortunately that would target category sorting only, and not other lists ( pagelinks, templatelinks, users, etc ;) Oh well. This is a difficult topic :)

Re: [Wikitech-l] On proper sorting using CLDR (was: varchar(255) binary in tables.sql)

2010-06-10 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I am really happy with your extensive description of why it is such a pain in the arse. The situation is even worse, there are more wikipedia languages then there are languages with a proper CLDR description. It would be a dear thing when we could strongly urge our language communities to

Re: [Wikitech-l] On proper sorting using CLDR (was: varchar(255) binary in tables.sql)

2010-06-10 Thread Helder Geovane
Hi! On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 09:40, Domas Mituzas midom.li...@gmail.com wrote: [snip] Of course, we can use community driven sortkey hacks for some features ;-) Domas Currently it is possible to define the sortkeys using {{DEFAULTSORT:Sortkey}} and in lots of places this sortkey coincide with

Re: [Wikitech-l] On proper sorting using CLDR

2010-06-10 Thread Platonides
Helder Geovane wrote: Currently it is possible to define the sortkeys using {{DEFAULTSORT:Sortkey}} and in lots of places this sortkey coincide with the value of magic words like {{PAGENAME}} and {{SUBPAGENAME}}, so we don't need to update them manually. The (annoying) exception is when the