Re: [Wikitech-l] Proposal: MediaWiki Group Bug Squad

2012-12-28 Thread Quim Gil
On 12/28/2012 11:30 AM, Tim Landscheidt wrote: Quim Gil wrote: [...] This doesn't happen in groups defined by geography who do not have any other responsibility, but I certainly share Sébastien's concern about groups targetting other fields. Still concerned? Yes :-). In my experience,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Proposal: MediaWiki Group Bug Squad

2012-12-28 Thread Tim Landscheidt
Quim Gil wrote: > [...] >> This doesn't happen in groups defined by geography who do >> not have any other responsibility, but I certainly share >> Sébastien's concern about groups targetting other fields. > Still concerned? Yes :-). In my experience, creating groups will keep some from lendi

Re: [Wikitech-l] Proposal: MediaWiki Group Bug Squad

2012-12-27 Thread Quim Gil
On 12/27/2012 02:31 PM, Matthew Flaschen wrote: On 12/27/2012 05:04 PM, Sébastien Santoro wrote: So we're speaking about potential need to incorporation and potential trademark agreements. But this isn't a bureaucratic road. Okay... It specifically says "may be incorporated" not "must be inc

Re: [Wikitech-l] Proposal: MediaWiki Group Bug Squad

2012-12-27 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 12/27/2012 05:04 PM, Sébastien Santoro wrote: > So we're speaking about potential need to incorporation and potential > trademark agreements. > > But this isn't a bureaucratic road. Okay... It specifically says "may be incorporated" not "must be incorporated". MediaWiki groups may allow that

Re: [Wikitech-l] Proposal: MediaWiki Group Bug Squad

2012-12-27 Thread Sébastien Santoro
On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 10:59 PM, Sébastien Santoro wrote: > On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 6:08 PM, Quim Gil wrote: >> On 12/27/2012 07:38 AM, Sébastien Santoro wrote: >> I don't see the bureaucratic burden you mention. The tough part of creating >> a Bug Squad team is to recruit the people and keep th

Re: [Wikitech-l] Proposal: MediaWiki Group Bug Squad

2012-12-27 Thread Sébastien Santoro
On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 6:08 PM, Quim Gil wrote: > On 12/27/2012 07:38 AM, Sébastien Santoro wrote: > I don't see the bureaucratic burden you mention. The tough part of creating > a Bug Squad team is to recruit the people and keep them active as a team. > Formalize that as a MediaWiki Group is jus

Re: [Wikitech-l] Proposal: MediaWiki Group Bug Squad

2012-12-27 Thread Quim Gil
On 12/27/2012 10:34 AM, Tim Landscheidt wrote: I think the problem with some groups is that if you are not in the group, you're not in the group. Do you need to join the Bug Squad to squash bugs? Of course not. You don't need to join the Browser Testing team to define test cases, the Promot

Re: [Wikitech-l] Proposal: MediaWiki Group Bug Squad

2012-12-27 Thread Tim Landscheidt
Quim Gil wrote: > [...] >> This is a dangerous precedents to a bureaucratization of our >> fundamental processes. A group should be about a vision. My vision of >> this proposal is I clearly see this proposal as the first step in a >> path who will lead to a road, where we will ask new contribut

Re: [Wikitech-l] Proposal: MediaWiki Group Bug Squad

2012-12-27 Thread Quim Gil
On 12/27/2012 07:38 AM, Sébastien Santoro wrote: To create a bug squad is a nice idea, and, as a volunteer active on Bugzilla, of course, I'm interested. To create a MediaWiki Group Bug Squad is something else. I fail to see why, and I really appreciate the fact that you are going to the deta

Re: [Wikitech-l] Proposal: MediaWiki Group Bug Squad

2012-12-27 Thread Sébastien Santoro
On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 7:02 AM, Tyler Romeo wrote: > You can count me in as interested. I can't add my name on my own, though, > since I'm IP blocked from editing on WMF wikis. Please request an IP exemption. >> Hi, following the process for requesting the creation of a MediaWiki group, >> here

Re: [Wikitech-l] Proposal: MediaWiki Group Bug Squad

2012-12-26 Thread Tyler Romeo
You can count me in as interested. I can't add my name on my own, though, since I'm IP blocked from editing on WMF wikis. *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2015 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 12:49 AM, Va

[Wikitech-l] Proposal: MediaWiki Group Bug Squad

2012-12-26 Thread Valerie Juarez
Hi, following the process for requesting the creation of a MediaWiki group, here is a proposal for MediaWiki Group Bug Squad http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Groups/Proposals/Bug_Squad Your endorsements, improvements and feedback are welcome at the wiki page. Thank you! PS: see also http://www.med