Re: [Wikitech-l] a wysiwyg editor for wikipedia?

2010-06-04 Thread Dmitriy Sintsov
* Trevor Parscal [Tue, 01 Jun 2010 11:31:03 -0700]: > In Berlin I gave a quick demo in the UX working group of a new parser > I've been writing that understands the structure and meaning of > Wikitext, rather than just converting it on the fly into HTML like the > current parser (actually a hybri

Re: [Wikitech-l] a wysiwyg editor for wikipedia?

2010-06-01 Thread Marco Schuster
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 1:42 AM, K. Peachey wrote: > On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 11:22 PM, Marco Schuster > wrote: >> On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 4:09 AM, Jacopo Corbetta >> wrote: >>> In our experience, the biggest obstacle is to get the different >>> browsers to reliably make the same changes to HTML. Th

Re: [Wikitech-l] a wysiwyg editor for wikipedia?

2010-06-01 Thread K. Peachey
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 11:22 PM, Marco Schuster wrote: > On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 4:09 AM, Jacopo Corbetta > wrote: >> In our experience, the biggest obstacle is to get the different >> browsers to reliably make the same changes to HTML. The editor >> interface is non-standard, and browsers sometim

Re: [Wikitech-l] a wysiwyg editor for wikipedia?

2010-06-01 Thread Trevor Parscal
On 6/1/10 8:24 AM, Roan Kattouw wrote: > 2010/6/1 Conrad Irwin: > >> The other solution is to use a proper MVC framework, and define >> everything in terms of modifications to the wikitext (and you can then >> constrain what those modifications are to avoid mangling) and run that >> through a p

Re: [Wikitech-l] a wysiwyg editor for wikipedia?

2010-06-01 Thread Roan Kattouw
2010/6/1 Conrad Irwin : > The other solution is to use a proper MVC framework, and define > everything in terms of modifications to the wikitext (and you can then > constrain what those modifications are to avoid mangling) and run that > through a parser to generate the html preview. Alternatively,

Re: [Wikitech-l] a wysiwyg editor for wikipedia?

2010-06-01 Thread Tei
On 31 May 2010 23:53, William Le Ferrand wrote: > Dear all, > > I've started to develop a simple wysiwyg editor that could be useful to > wikipedia. Basically the editor gets the wiki code from wikipedai and builds > the html on client side. Then you can edit the html code as you can imagine > and

Re: [Wikitech-l] a wysiwyg editor for wikipedia?

2010-06-01 Thread Marco Schuster
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 4:09 AM, Jacopo Corbetta wrote: > In our experience, the biggest obstacle is to get the different > browsers to reliably make the same changes to HTML. The editor > interface is non-standard, and browsers sometimes disagree on encoding > rules, escaping, choice of tags, etc.

Re: [Wikitech-l] a wysiwyg editor for wikipedia?

2010-05-31 Thread Jacopo Corbetta
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 00:31, Aryeh Gregor wrote: > Wiki syntax is too complicated for this to be feasible.  It also > doesn't have a one-to-one mapping to HTML.  It's been tried before, > but what you end up with is that it doesn't round-trip: if you open in > the WYSIWYG editor and save with no

Re: [Wikitech-l] a wysiwyg editor for wikipedia?

2010-05-31 Thread Conrad Irwin
On 31 May 2010 23:37, David Gerard wrote: > On 31 May 2010 23:31, Aryeh Gregor wrote: > >> Wiki syntax is too complicated for this to be feasible.  It also >> doesn't have a one-to-one mapping to HTML.  It's been tried before, >> but what you end up with is that it doesn't round-trip: if you open

Re: [Wikitech-l] a wysiwyg editor for wikipedia?

2010-05-31 Thread David Gerard
On 31 May 2010 23:50, Angela wrote: >> The default editor on new wikia.com wikis is WYSIWYG-only. This works >> tolerably well (a bit buggy, but actively worked on). > It's not WYSIWYG only. You can switch between that and regular > wikitext whilst you're on the edit page using the "source" butt

Re: [Wikitech-l] a wysiwyg editor for wikipedia?

2010-05-31 Thread Angela
> The default editor on new wikia.com wikis is WYSIWYG-only. This works > tolerably well (a bit buggy, but actively worked on). It's not WYSIWYG only. You can switch between that and regular wikitext whilst you're on the edit page using the "source" button, or you can select which you want to use

Re: [Wikitech-l] a wysiwyg editor for wikipedia?

2010-05-31 Thread David Gerard
On 31 May 2010 23:31, Aryeh Gregor wrote: > Wiki syntax is too complicated for this to be feasible.  It also > doesn't have a one-to-one mapping to HTML.  It's been tried before, > but what you end up with is that it doesn't round-trip: if you open in > the WYSIWYG editor and save with no changes

Re: [Wikitech-l] a wysiwyg editor for wikipedia?

2010-05-31 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 5:53 PM, William Le Ferrand wrote: > I've started to develop a simple wysiwyg editor that could be useful to > wikipedia. Basically the editor gets the wiki code from wikipedai and builds > the html on client side. Then you can edit the html code as you can imagine > and wh

Re: [Wikitech-l] a wysiwyg editor for wikipedia?

2010-05-31 Thread David Gerard
On 31 May 2010 22:53, William Le Ferrand wrote: > I've started to develop a simple wysiwyg editor that could be useful to > wikipedia. Basically the editor gets the wiki code from wikipedai and builds > the html on client side. Then you can edit the html code as you can imagine > and when you are

[Wikitech-l] a wysiwyg editor for wikipedia?

2010-05-31 Thread William Le Ferrand
Dear all, I've started to develop a simple wysiwyg editor that could be useful to wikipedia. Basically the editor gets the wiki code from wikipedai and builds the html on client side. Then you can edit the html code as you can imagine and when you are done another script converts the html back to