Re: [Wikitech-l] Old tiles.wfmlabs.org maps services need maintainers to keep them alive after december 18th

2018-12-13 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
Yeah might be wise to at least reach out to en.wp and de.wp. Or maybe Tech News even ? DJ On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 6:45 PM Andre Klapper wrote: > On Wed, 2018-12-12 at 14:39 +0100, Derk-Jan Hartman wrote: > > This is just another small reminder that, because the servers which host > >

Re: [Wikitech-l] Old tiles.wfmlabs.org maps services need maintainers to keep them alive after december 18th

2018-12-13 Thread Johan Jönsson
On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 9:24 AM Derk-Jan Hartman < d.j.hartman+wmf...@gmail.com> wrote: > Yeah might be wise to at least reach out to en.wp and de.wp. Or maybe Tech > News even ? > "Hey folks, this might not work in the future" could be reason enough to include it in Tech News, yes. //Johan

Re: [Wikitech-l] The ref tag parameter follow in non wikisource wikis

2018-12-13 Thread Thiemo Kreuz
> […] why the tag parameter follow= is not turned off in wiki sites that > are not wikisource? As the Technical Wishes team at Wikimedia Germany is currently working on the Cite extension, I had a look to find an answer to your question. The follow="…" feature was introduced in 2010[1] as part

[Wikitech-l] [MediaWiki-announce] MediaWiki 1.32.0-rc.1 is ready for testing

2018-12-13 Thread Mukunda Modell
I'm pleased to announce that MediaWiki 1.32.0-rc.1 is now ready for testing. Links to the archives, signatures and keys relevant to this release are at the end of this message. There have been a few changes[1] since the previous release candidate. Unless we discover new blocking bugs in this

Re: [Wikitech-l] The ref tag parameter follow in non wikisource wikis

2018-12-13 Thread יגאל חיטרון
Thank you. But even so, what about the weird order of precedence? I really do not like that this code actually works: text1{{citetext3|title=google|url= http://google.com}}text5 Or it's implemented like this in purpose? Igal ‫בתאריך יום ה׳, 13 בדצמ׳ 2018 ב-12:58 מאת ‪Thiemo Kreuz‬‏ <‪

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Maps-l] Old tiles.wfmlabs.org maps services need maintainers to keep them alive after december 18th

2018-12-13 Thread Pine W
Hi DJ, Out of curiosity, what all would be involved in the OS change? The bike layers could be a nontrivial loss for some folks. If no regular WMF staff are available for the OS changes and ongoing maintenance, and if the use of bike lanes (or other features) is significant in the opinion of

Re: [Wikitech-l] The ref tag parameter follow in non wikisource wikis

2018-12-13 Thread Thiemo Kreuz
The wikitext snippet you posted appears to be seriously broken. More precisely: It is unbalanced. Technically, there is no such thing as "broken" wikitext. The parser will always output something (as he does in the example). However, this doesn't mean such wikitext is ok. Sure, nobody is stopping

Re: [Wikitech-l] Old tiles.wfmlabs.org maps services need maintainers to keep them alive after december 18th

2018-12-13 Thread Alexander Vassilevski
I have a wikitech account, checked through the userlist and wrote mails to the admins who listed their mails and assuming I get access I'll use puppet. I'll update the conversation if I get word back from them. alexan...@vassilevski.com ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Thursday, 13 December

Re: [Wikitech-l] Old tiles.wfmlabs.org maps services need maintainers to keep them alive after december 18th

2018-12-13 Thread Alex Monk
You'll basically need to create a wikitech account (if you don't already have one) and convince one of the existing project admins (listed at https://tools.wmflabs.org/openstack-browser/project/maps) to add you. Please use Puppet instead of manually setting up servers by hand. On Thu, 13 Dec 2018

Re: [Wikitech-l] Old tiles.wfmlabs.org maps services need maintainers to keep them alive after december 18th

2018-12-13 Thread Alexander Vassilevski
I have some free time this December and I could manually create the new vm's and replicate the configs/installs by hand on newly created Ubuntu 18 vm's ( after figuring out how the old ones are installed and configured and if given access, of course .. ). Keep in mind that I'm new to

Re: [Wikitech-l] Old tiles.wfmlabs.org maps services need maintainers to keep them alive after december 18th

2018-12-13 Thread Johan Jönsson
On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 9:36 AM Johan Jönsson wrote: > On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 9:24 AM Derk-Jan Hartman < > d.j.hartman+wmf...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Yeah might be wise to at least reach out to en.wp and de.wp. Or maybe Tech >> News even ? >> > > "Hey folks, this might not work in the future"

Re: [Wikitech-l] The ref tag parameter follow in non wikisource wikis

2018-12-13 Thread יגאל חיטרון
I think I was not clear enough. I know the code is broken, and I know noone should use it. I show it as a symptom of the system problem - wrong precedence order implemented in the parser. Igal ‫בתאריך יום ה׳, 13 בדצמ׳ 2018 ב-19:03 מאת ‪Thiemo Kreuz‬‏ <‪ thiemo.kr...@wikimedia.de‬‏>:‬ > > I

Re: [Wikitech-l] The ref tag parameter follow in non wikisource wikis

2018-12-13 Thread יגאל חיטרון
N3: The lonk you provides expects the transclusion (preprocessor 3.4) before tags (processor 2.2). So the follow parameter behavior is broken. Igal ‫בתאריך יום ה׳, 13 בדצמ׳ 2018 ב-18:25 מאת יגאל חיטרון <‪ khit...@post.bgu.ac.il‬‏>:‬ > The problem is the precedence, once again. I expect from the

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Maps-l] Old tiles.wfmlabs.org maps services need maintainers to keep them alive after december 18th

2018-12-13 Thread Alex Monk
I don't think WMF should be hiring contractors purely for the purpose of supporting individual tools which are not in production. On Thu, 13 Dec 2018 at 15:46, Pine W wrote: > Hi DJ, > > Out of curiosity, what all would be involved in the OS change? > > The bike layers could be a nontrivial

Re: [Wikitech-l] The ref tag parameter follow in non wikisource wikis

2018-12-13 Thread Thiemo Kreuz
> I expect from the parser to parse wiki markup before parsing html tags […] As I said. As neither the wiki markup nor the XML tags in the given example are valid, one can't expect anything. Seriously. Code like {{cite|}} is just broken. It's like having two nested Klein bottles. Both structural

Re: [Wikitech-l] The ref tag parameter follow in non wikisource wikis

2018-12-13 Thread יגאל חיטרון
The problem is the precedence, once again. I expect from the parser to parse wiki markup before parsing html tags, because templates can create new tags by transclusion. If the ref tag is parsed first, glueing the unbalanced parts to one proper template call, that means that (1) the template can't

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Maps-l] Old tiles.wfmlabs.org maps services need maintainers to keep them alive after december 18th

2018-12-13 Thread Andre Klapper
On Thu, 2018-12-13 at 07:46 -0800, Pine W wrote: > Out of curiosity, what all would be involved in the OS change? See https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/News/Trusty_deprecation Cheers, andre -- Andre Klapper | Bugwrangler / Developer Advocate https://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/

[Wikitech-l] Code Stewardship Reviews candidates open for comment

2018-12-13 Thread Jean-Rene Branaa
Hello All, We've opened the feedback cycle for the current Code Stewardship Review candidates. They include: CodeReview extension[0] UserMerge extension[1] Graphoid service[2] Feedback can be provided via the talk pages for each of the items under review and/or their associated Phabricator