[Wikitech-l] Re: Outreachy Round 25–call for projects and mentors now open!

2022-09-07 Thread Slavina Stefanova
Hi Roy, Thank you for your interest! Your background sounds great. I like Django too, but think it may be overkill for this particular project. Nothing is set in stone, though, and I appreciate suggestions on the tech stack we end up going with. A few other people have expressed interest too, so

[Wikitech-l] Re: Outreachy Round 25–call for projects and mentors now open!

2022-09-07 Thread Roy Smith
Just from my personal experience, I see django as a good "batteries included" solution that lets you get something up and running quickly because it gives you all the pieces in one package. But I've found that I tend to actually use very little of it. I tend not to use the django

[Wikitech-l] Re: Request Timeout

2022-09-07 Thread Dušan Kreheľ
Hm: * The HTML answer: 6865240 B (6.865 MB) * The wiki RAW: 1079263 B (~1 MB) * The count sections: 5020 I think, the Wikimedia software is not primary developing for so characteristic page. Martin Domdey: It's none problem to looking the page as the normal user, but first, You disable the

[Wikitech-l] Re: Request Timeout

2022-09-07 Thread Bartosz Dziewoński
Given that the problem is caused by using thousands of tags on the page, and the page is generated by a bot, it seems to me like the ideal solution is to make the bot perform the syntax highlighting locally using your favorite fast library, and save the resulting HTML markup to the page.

[Wikitech-l] Re: Request Timeout

2022-09-07 Thread bawolff
On Wed, Sep 7, 2022 at 3:17 PM Ryan Schmidt wrote: > > > On Sep 7, 2022, at 7:54 AM, Martin Domdey wrote: > >  > Hi, > > it looks like there is nobody who can work on a bug or production error > like this: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T316858 > > I don't think, that this is a production

[Wikitech-l] Re: Outreachy Round 25–call for projects and mentors now open!

2022-09-07 Thread Slavina Stefanova
> > I assume the plan is to do this in Toolforge? There's a few things about > Toolforge that I bristle at, but it does give a lot of value in the stuff > you get for free. I don't see any viable alternative for a small project > like this. Toolforge is an option; Cloud VPS is also possible if

[Wikitech-l] Re: Outreachy Round 25–call for projects and mentors now open!

2022-09-07 Thread Roy Smith
The biggest issues I see are the lack of any good logging, monitoring and alerting tools. Things like icinga, logstash, grafina. The kind of things that are standard for supporting any production system. I've raised this before, so I won't belabor the point here. And

[Wikitech-l] Request Timeout

2022-09-07 Thread Martin Domdey
Hi, it looks like there is nobody who can work on a bug or production error like this: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T316858 I don't think, that this is a production error but really a bug. If it's not possible to open a page ( https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:Doc_Taxon/Test4 ) because

[Wikitech-l] Re: Request Timeout

2022-09-07 Thread Ryan Schmidt
> On Sep 7, 2022, at 7:54 AM, Martin Domdey wrote: > >  > Hi, > > it looks like there is nobody who can work on a bug or production error like > this: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T316858 > > I don't think, that this is a production error but really a bug. If it's not > possible to

[Wikitech-l] Re: Outreachy Round 25–call for projects and mentors now open!

2022-09-07 Thread novemling...@gmail.com
Hi Slavina, I hope you don't mind me jumping in, but here are a couple things I did not find intuitive when I started using Toolforge. I've been using PHP/cPanel style web hosts since around year 2000 so I was expecting an experience similar to that, but I encountered a couple of "gotchyas"

[Wikitech-l] Re: Outreachy Round 25–call for projects and mentors now open!

2022-09-07 Thread Roy Smith
On Sep 7, 2022, at 4:50 PM, novemling...@gmail.com wrote: > > - FTP programs that aren't WinSCP with "environment -> SFTP -> server -> sudo > -u tools.novem-bot /usr/lib/sftp-server" configured appear to the user to > work, but create some hard-to-track-down bugs because files have the wrong >

[Wikitech-l] Fwd: StrikerBot invited you to join GitLab

2022-09-07 Thread Roy Smith
I just got the attached email. Is this just fishing, or is this actually some wikimedia thing for real? I host spi-tools in github. I have no plans to move it to gitlab. Why has somebody created it on gitlab for me and invited me to be an owner? > Begin forwarded message: > > From:

[Wikitech-l] Re: Fwd: StrikerBot invited you to join GitLab

2022-09-07 Thread Chico Venancio
https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/cloud-annou...@lists.wikimedia.org/thread/LSUIQGQ4DCHNDDIT54XMQ2FHK4E4DW3W/ TL;DR, diffusion moved to gitlab Chico Venancio Em qua., 7 de set. de 2022 às 19:28, Roy Smith escreveu: > I just got the attached email. Is this just fishing, or is this

[Wikitech-l] Re: Fwd: StrikerBot invited you to join GitLab

2022-09-07 Thread Kunal Mehta
Hi, On 9/7/22 18:28, Roy Smith wrote: I just got the attached email.  Is this just fishing, or is this actually some wikimedia thing for real? Just a general note, if you suspect a Wikimedia-related email is phishing, it would be better to send it to secur...@wikimedia.org to be reviewed

[Wikitech-l] Re: Request Timeout

2022-09-07 Thread Kunal Mehta
Hi, On 9/7/22 15:18, bawolff wrote: One possible fix would be to make syntaxhighlight an expensive parser function ;) I just merged from Umherirrender that does this. Once deployed, if a page has too

[Wikitech-l] Re: My idea about wikipage parser (shared link on the article)

2022-09-07 Thread Kunal Mehta
Hi, On 9/3/22 03:33, Dušan Kreheľ wrote: i wanna share my idea (writed in the article) about the wikipage parser: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Du%C5%A1an_Krehe%C4%BE/Signpost_draft:My_idea_about_wikipage_parser I wasn't able to fully follow your conclusion, but I do want to say that