Re: [Wikitech-l] WYSIFTW status

2011-01-17 Thread David Gerard
On 17 January 2011 00:35, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Magnus Manske wrote: There is the question of what browsers/versions to test for. Should I invest large amounts of time optimising performance in Firefox 3, when FF4 will probably be released before WYSIFTW, and everyone and their

Re: [Wikitech-l] Cross-wiki user talk notification

2011-01-17 Thread Jérémie Roquet
2011/1/11 Ilmari Karonen nos...@vyznev.net: On 01/11/2011 11:59 AM, Jérémie Roquet wrote: And there's a handy property to determine if you have new messages: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=querymeta=userinfouiprop=hasmsg Unfortunately (or fortunately), userinfo cannot be retrived

Re: [Wikitech-l] Image.php is deprecated need to replace with something else

2011-01-17 Thread Tim Starling
On 12/01/11 09:03, Beebe, Mary J wrote: GetLinksTo() seems to be returning no results even though there are image pages with links to them. It seems to be a problem with the select statement within the File class. I looked at the query and if I run the query within mySQL it works if I

[Wikitech-l] helping in WYSIWYG editor efforts

2011-01-17 Thread Panos Louridas
Hi, At the Greek Research and Education Network (GRNET) we look at the possibility of contributing to the development of WYSIWYG editor support in Wikipedia. We understand that considerable work has already taken place in the area, e.g.: * http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/WYSIFTW *

Re: [Wikitech-l] From page history to sentence history

2011-01-17 Thread Anthony
On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 7:34 PM, Lars Aronsson l...@aronsson.se wrote: Many articles are soo long, and have been edited so many times, that the history view is almost useless. If I want to find out when and how the sentence Overall, the city is relatively flatin the article [[en:Paris]] has

Re: [Wikitech-l] June 8th 2011, World IPv6 Day

2011-01-17 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Do we have statistics of the IPv6 traffic ? Thanks, GerardM On 16 January 2011 13:13, Maarten Dammers maar...@mdammers.nl wrote: On 8 June, 2011, Google, Facebook, Yahoo!, Akamai and Limelight Networks will be amongst some of the major organisations that will offer their content

[Wikitech-l] Category sorting and first letters

2011-01-17 Thread Tim Starling
In r80443 I added a feature allowing categories to be sorted using the Unicode Collation Algorithm (UCA). I wanted to briefly talk about the potential user impact, the design choices and the caveats. Sorting was the easy part. The hard part was providing a first letter concept which would be

[Wikitech-l] WMDE Developer Meetup moved to May

2011-01-17 Thread Daniel Kinzler
Hi all after some discussion, Wikimedia Germany decided not to hold a developer's meet-up around the Chapter's conference in March. We just couldn't fit this in nicely with the venue and the overall organization. Don't despair though: This is what we will do instead: * There will be a hackathon

Re: [Wikitech-l] WYSIFTW status

2011-01-17 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 7:16 PM, Magnus Manske magnusman...@googlemail.com wrote: There is the question of what browsers/versions to test for. Should I invest large amounts of time optimising performance in Firefox 3, when FF4 will probably be released before WYSIFTW, and everyone and their

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Toolserver-l] WMDE Developer Meetup moved to May

2011-01-17 Thread Daniel Kinzler
On 17.01.2011 17:14, Asaf Bartov wrote: Correction: Haifa Hacking Days are to be held August 2nd-3rd. Wikimania itself will be Aug 4th-6th. Gah! Thanks Asaf. There I went and looked it up, and then wrote the wrong thing into the email. Curses. -- daniel

Re: [Wikitech-l] June 8th 2011, World IPv6 Day

2011-01-17 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 7:12 PM, Happy-melon happy-me...@live.com wrote: I don't entirely understand the point of this.  The plan seems to be get a large enough fraction of 'the internet' to make a change which breaks for some people all at the same time, so that those people get angry with the

Re: [Wikitech-l] WMDE Developer Meetup moved to May

2011-01-17 Thread Chad
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 11:11 AM, Daniel Kinzler dan...@brightbyte.de wrote: * There will be a hackathon hosted by Wikimedia Germany in (late) May, probably in Berlin, but that's not decided yet. This will mostly about hacking, with a strong focus on GLAM related stuff. There will be little

Re: [Wikitech-l] From page history to sentence history

2011-01-17 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 5:55 AM, Alex Brollo alex.bro...@gmail.com wrote: Before I dig a little more into wiki mysteries, I was absolutely sure that wiki articles were stored into small pieces (paragraphs?) so that a small edit into a long long page would take exactly the same disk space than a

Re: [Wikitech-l] From page history to sentence history

2011-01-17 Thread Anthony
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 10:40 AM, Alex Brollo alex.bro...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/1/17 Bryan Tong Minh bryan.tongm...@gmail.com Difficult, but doable. Jan-Paul's sentence-level editing tool is able to make the distinction. It would perhaps be possible to use that as a framework for

Re: [Wikitech-l] From page history to sentence history

2011-01-17 Thread Anthony
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 12:41 PM, Anthony wikim...@inbox.org wrote: And to recognize what's going on when a sentence changes *and* is moved from one paragraph to another, requires an even greater level of natural language understanding.  Again though, you can probably get it right most of the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikitech-l Digest, Vol 90, Issue 33

2011-01-17 Thread Edmund Fisher
Huh??? www.englishfreeroam.co.cc On 17 Jan 2011, at 17:41, wikitech-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org wrote: Send Wikitech-l mailing list submissions to wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit

Re: [Wikitech-l] WMDE Developer Meetup moved to May

2011-01-17 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 5:11 PM, Daniel Kinzler dan...@brightbyte.de wrote: * There will be a hackathon hosted by Wikimedia Germany in (late) May, probably in Berlin, but that's not decided yet. This will mostly about hacking, with a strong focus on GLAM related stuff. There will be little in

Re: [Wikitech-l] helping in WYSIWYG editor efforts

2011-01-17 Thread Panos Louridas
On Jan 17, 2011, at 4:13 PM, Daniel Friesen wrote: Making Wikia's RTE something you can easily install on a normal MediaWiki install would be a good start, and convincing them to try making the effort they said they planned to make to the RTE in a way that can be shared with and benefit

Re: [Wikitech-l] WMDE Developer Meetup moved to May

2011-01-17 Thread Ashar Voultoiz
On 17/01/11 17:11, Daniel Kinzler wrote: * There will be a hackathon hosted by Wikimedia Germany in (late) May, probably in Berlin, but that's not decided yet. This will mostly about hacking, with a strong focus on GLAM related stuff. There will be little in terms of presentations. I will

Re: [Wikitech-l] Extending WikiEditor toolbar

2011-01-17 Thread Roan Kattouw
2011/1/16 Alex mrzmanw...@gmail.com: I tried to integrate it as neatly as possible, though the lack of documentation hasn't helped. Everything works fine, except when using IE. In IE, it just inserts the ref in some random location on the page, sometimes *near* where the cursor/highlight is,

Re: [Wikitech-l] From page history to sentence history

2011-01-17 Thread Roan Kattouw
2011/1/17 Aryeh Gregor simetrical+wikil...@gmail.com: Wikimedia stores diffs using delta compression, so actually this is basically what happens.  The size of the edit is what determines the size of the stored diff, not the size of the page.  (I don't know how this works in detail, though.)  

Re: [Wikitech-l] Cross-wiki user talk notification

2011-01-17 Thread Platonides
Jérémie Roquet á écrit: 2011/1/11 Ilmari Karonen nos...@vyznev.net: On 01/11/2011 11:59 AM, Jérémie Roquet wrote: And there's a handy property to determine if you have new messages: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=querymeta=userinfouiprop=hasmsg Unfortunately (or fortunately),

Re: [Wikitech-l] Extending WikiEditor toolbar

2011-01-17 Thread Alex
On 1/17/2011 2:02 PM, Roan Kattouw wrote: 2011/1/16 Alex mrzmanw...@gmail.com: I tried to integrate it as neatly as possible, though the lack of documentation hasn't helped. Everything works fine, except when using IE. In IE, it just inserts the ref in some random location on the page,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Category sorting and first letters

2011-01-17 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2011/1/17 Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org: * It automatically drops accents, since accented letters sort the same as unaccented letters (at the primary level). How locale aware is it? For example, in Swedish accented letters come at the end of the alphabet and in Lithuanian I, Į and Y are

Re: [Wikitech-l] From page history to sentence history

2011-01-17 Thread Lars Aronsson
On 01/17/2011 06:50 PM, Anthony wrote: If you want a high level of accuracy when trying to determine who added a particular fact (such as Overall, the city is relatively flat, which may have started out as Paris, in general, contains very few changes in elevation), you really need to combine

Re: [Wikitech-l] Extending WikiEditor toolbar

2011-01-17 Thread Alex
On 1/17/2011 3:17 PM, Alex wrote: On 1/17/2011 2:02 PM, Roan Kattouw wrote: 2011/1/16 Alex mrzmanw...@gmail.com: I tried to integrate it as neatly as possible, though the lack of documentation hasn't helped. Everything works fine, except when using IE. In IE, it just inserts the ref in some

Re: [Wikitech-l] From page history to sentence history

2011-01-17 Thread Lars Aronsson
On 01/17/2011 03:49 PM, Anthony wrote: How would you define a particular sentence, paragraph or section of an article? The difficulty of the solution lies in answering that question. I think the definition could vary, and the functionality could still be useful. The API parameters could be

Re: [Wikitech-l] helping in WYSIWYG editor efforts

2011-01-17 Thread Daniel Friesen
On 11-01-17 10:51 AM, Panos Louridas wrote: On Jan 17, 2011, at 4:13 PM, Daniel Friesen wrote: Making Wikia's RTE something you can easily install on a normal MediaWiki install would be a good start, and convincing them to try making the effort they said they planned to make to the RTE in a

Re: [Wikitech-l] WYSIFTW status

2011-01-17 Thread Maciej Jaros
Aryeh Gregor (2011-01-17 17:31): On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 7:16 PM, Magnus Manske magnusman...@googlemail.com wrote: There is the question of what browsers/versions to test for. Should I invest large amounts of time optimising performance in Firefox 3, when FF4 will probably be released before

Re: [Wikitech-l] From page history to sentence history

2011-01-17 Thread masti
what is the reason and what it can bring to the community? masti On 01/17/2011 01:34 AM, Lars Aronsson wrote: I think it would be very useful if I could highlight a sentence, paragraph or section of an article and get a reduced history view with only those edits that changed that part of

Re: [Wikitech-l] From page history to sentence history

2011-01-17 Thread Lars Aronsson
On 01/17/2011 11:36 PM, masti wrote: what is the reason and what it can bring to the community? I tried to describe this. The task of finding out the history of a part of an article is very time consuming for long articles with a long history, where you have to manually look through lots of

Re: [Wikitech-l] From page history to sentence history

2011-01-17 Thread masti
On 01/18/2011 12:30 AM, Lars Aronsson wrote: On 01/17/2011 11:36 PM, masti wrote: what is the reason and what it can bring to the community? I tried to describe this. The task of finding out the history of a part of an article is very time consuming for long articles with a long history,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Making my $wgHooks['SkinTemplateNavigation'] morefuture-proof

2011-01-17 Thread Happy-melon
jida...@jidanni.org wrote in message news:87vd1p3891@jidanni.org... Maybe I should use isset()s every step of the way, lest users see embarrassing warnings one day when you fellows change something. Or perhaps no isset()s, that way users will notify me that something has changed in your

Re: [Wikitech-l] Cross-wiki user talk notification

2011-01-17 Thread Happy-melon
Platonides platoni...@gmail.com wrote in message news:4d34a033.9080...@gmail.com... CentralAuth is not really an entry level extension, but you may have luck since you would just be adding hooks. Now there's the understatement of the week... :-D --HM

Re: [Wikitech-l] Cross-wiki user talk notification

2011-01-17 Thread George Herbert
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 3:58 PM, Happy-melon happy-me...@live.com wrote: Platonides platoni...@gmail.com wrote in message news:4d34a033.9080...@gmail.com... CentralAuth is not really an entry level extension, but you may have luck since you would just be adding hooks. Now there's the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Cross-wiki user talk notification

2011-01-17 Thread Daniel Friesen
On 11-01-17 04:09 PM, George Herbert wrote: On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 3:58 PM, Happy-melonhappy-me...@live.com wrote: Platonidesplatoni...@gmail.com wrote in message news:4d34a033.9080...@gmail.com... CentralAuth is not really an entry level extension, but you may have luck since you would