[Wikitech-l] development list for Wikidata

2013-05-06 Thread Lydia Pintscher
Heya folks :) We've created https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-tech to keep all the development discussions around Wikidata in one public place. Feel free to subscribe if you are interested. Cheers Lydia -- Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher Community

Re: [Wikitech-l] Starter kit ?

2013-05-06 Thread Mathieu Stumpf
Reading [1], I'm wondering if we couldn't have a wiki version of this page that could be updated along the road. For example the text talk about MySQL and but doesn't talk about the MariaDB migration. By the way the two The Architecture of Open Source Applications books may find there place on

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bugzilla Weekly Report

2013-05-06 Thread Željko Filipin
On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 5:00 AM, reporter repor...@kaulen.wikimedia.orgwrote: MediaWiki Bugzilla Report for April 29, 2013 - May 06, 2013 Fresh charts[1] are available. Željko -- 1: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Bugzilla_Weekly_Report ___ Wikitech-l

[Wikitech-l] Global watchlist and watchlist wishlist

2013-05-06 Thread Guillaume Paumier
Hi, A discussion has started on-wiki about a global watchlist, and other related improvements to the watchlist feature. A few people have started to organize the various bug reports about watchlists, but there is still much to do before we have a clear prioritized vision of what the watchlist

Re: [Wikitech-l] Starter kit ?

2013-05-06 Thread Guillaume Paumier
Hi, On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 2:28 PM, Mathieu Stumpf psychosl...@culture-libre.org wrote: Reading [1], I'm wondering if we couldn't have a wiki version of this page that could be updated along the road. For example the text talk about MySQL and but doesn't talk about the MariaDB migration. [1]

Re: [Wikitech-l] GSoC: next steps

2013-05-06 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi, It seems to me that there are 15-20 distinct GSoC projects with interested mentors, depending on how you count it. Here's the list I compiled: Core MediaWiki: - Automatic category redirects - MediaWiki API 2.0 General extensions: - Book structures - Inline commenting - MediaWiki-Moodle

Re: [Wikitech-l] Starter kit ?

2013-05-06 Thread Mathieu Stumpf
Le 2013-05-06 15:34, Guillaume Paumier a écrit : Hi, On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 2:28 PM, Mathieu Stumpf psychosl...@culture-libre.org wrote: Reading [1], I'm wondering if we couldn't have a wiki version of this page that could be updated along the road. For example the text talk about MySQL and

Re: [Wikitech-l] Replacement for tagging in Gerrit

2013-05-06 Thread Guillaume Paumier
Hi, On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 2:11 AM, Rob Lanphier ro...@wikimedia.org wrote: Short version: This mail is fishing for feedback on proposed work on Gerrit-Bugzilla integration to replace code review tags. I was wondering: has a decision been made regarding this? I'm resuming work on (notably)

Re: [Wikitech-l] Starter kit ?

2013-05-06 Thread Quim Gil
Only to honor the subject and initial motivation of this thread: Recently we started drafting an actual Starter Kit, as Mathieu requested: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:New_contributors/Starter_kit Edits and questions in the discussion page are welcome. In fact with a bit of focus

Re: [Wikitech-l] Global watchlist and watchlist wishlist

2013-05-06 Thread Quim Gil
On 05/06/2013 05:41 AM, Guillaume Paumier wrote: A few people have started to organize the various bug reports about watchlists, but there is still much to do before we have a clear prioritized vision of what the watchlist feature should become. fwiw I had already suggested a Bug Day focusing

[Wikitech-l] Fwd: Jared Zimmerman joins Wikimedia Foundation as Director of UX

2013-05-06 Thread Erik Moeller
FYI -- Forwarded message -- From: Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org Date: Mon, May 6, 2013 at 9:44 AM Subject: Jared Zimmerman joins Wikimedia Foundation as Director of UX To: wikimediaannounc...@lists.wikimedia.org Hi folks, It’s my great pleasure to announce that today, Jared

Re: [Wikitech-l] Starter kit ?

2013-05-06 Thread Mathieu Stumpf
Le lundi 06 mai 2013 à 09:14 -0700, Quim Gil a écrit : Only to honor the subject and initial motivation of this thread: Recently we started drafting an actual Starter Kit, as Mathieu requested: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:New_contributors/Starter_kit Edits and questions in the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Global watchlist and watchlist wishlist

2013-05-06 Thread Brian Wolff
On 2013-05-06 1:31 PM, Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org wrote: On 05/06/2013 05:41 AM, Guillaume Paumier wrote: A few people have started to organize the various bug reports about watchlists, but there is still much to do before we have a clear prioritized vision of what the watchlist feature

Re: [Wikitech-l] Global watchlist and watchlist wishlist

2013-05-06 Thread Eran Rosenthal
What happened to last years gsoc project in this area? Are there people working on getting it merged? Patchsets for watchlist are waiting for review for too long. The GSOC project: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/16419/ other patchsets waiting for review:

[Wikitech-l] GSoC mentors: selection process

2013-05-06 Thread Quim Gil
Hi, long email but only for GSoC mentors and curious minds alike. WARNING: GSoC common sense requires absolute confidentiality about discussions or resolutions of candidates. You can't share any confidential information, no matter how evident it looks to you or how well you get along with a

[Wikitech-l] Proposal: Let's move to a one-week deploy cycle

2013-05-06 Thread Greg Grossmeier
Hello all, Let's move our MediaWiki deploy cycle to weekly instead of 2-week. This will also reduce the number of standing deployment windows throughout the week by having those projects/teams simply ride the MediaWiki train. == Current situation == Right now, a new version of MediaWiki is

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] Proposal: Let's move to a one-week deploy cycle

2013-05-06 Thread Sumana Harihareswara
Extrapolating from our experience from two-week deploy cycles and what bugs we find at each stage, would moving to a one-week deploy cycle substantially increase the number of users exposed to really bad bugs? For instance, if we're currently finding and fixing about 2 deployment blocker bugs per

Re: [Wikitech-l] Proposal: Let's move to a one-week deploy cycle

2013-05-06 Thread Bartosz Dziewoński
On Mon, 06 May 2013 21:04:39 +0200, Greg Grossmeier g...@wikimedia.org wrote: It takes up to 2 weeks for new features/bug fixes to be rolled out to the various Wikimedia wikis. Four weeks, actually, if your change gets merged just after a branching point. (2 weeks until next branching +

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] Proposal: Let's move to a one-week deploy cycle

2013-05-06 Thread Brad Jorsch
On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Greg Grossmeier g...@wikimedia.org wrote: Let's move our MediaWiki deploy cycle to weekly instead of 2-week. This will also reduce the number of standing deployment windows throughout the week by having those projects/teams simply ride the MediaWiki train. \o/

Re: [Wikitech-l] Proposal: Let's move to a one-week deploy cycle

2013-05-06 Thread Antoine Musso
Le 06/05/13 21:04, Greg Grossmeier a écrit : Let's move our MediaWiki deploy cycle to weekly instead of 2-week. As long as we tend to the hour, I am fine :-] Weekly deploy is a bit of a challenge since we will have less time to figure out a solution for any blocking bug, but overall I think it

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] Proposal: Let's move to a one-week deploy cycle

2013-05-06 Thread Rob Lanphier
On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 12:20 PM, Sumana Harihareswara suma...@wikimedia.org wrote: Extrapolating from our experience from two-week deploy cycles and what bugs we find at each stage, would moving to a one-week deploy cycle substantially increase the number of users exposed to really bad bugs?

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] Proposal: Let's move to a one-week deploy cycle

2013-05-06 Thread Greg Grossmeier
quote name=Brad Jorsch date=2013-05-06 time=15:32:19 -0400 One other plan that was discussed in February, if I recall, was something like this: week0, Thursday: Deploy wmf1 to test and mw.org week1, Monday: Deploy wmf1 to first-round wikis week1, Thursday: Deploy wmf1 to remaining wikis

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] Proposal: Let's move to a one-week deploy cycle

2013-05-06 Thread Steven Walling
On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 12:52 PM, Greg Grossmeier g...@wikimedia.org wrote: Yep, Robla's creating that sample calendar now. My reasoning for removing that initial separation that may be faulty: We're running automated and non-automated tests against betalabs, and that has started producing

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] Proposal: Let's move to a one-week deploy cycle

2013-05-06 Thread Brad Jorsch
On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 3:52 PM, Greg Grossmeier g...@wikimedia.org wrote: I'm pretty sure this email will have a mid-air collision with Robla and his writeup of the proposal you outlined, Brad. I think Robla was the one who suggested it in February, actually. I was just repeating it here.

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] Proposal: Let's move to a one-week deploy cycle

2013-05-06 Thread Greg Grossmeier
quote name=Brad Jorsch date=2013-05-06 time=16:15:33 -0400 On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 3:52 PM, Greg Grossmeier g...@wikimedia.org wrote: I'm pretty sure this email will have a mid-air collision with Robla and his writeup of the proposal you outlined, Brad. I think Robla was the one who

Re: [Wikitech-l] GSoC mentors: selection process

2013-05-06 Thread Quim Gil
Hi Siebrand, moving your feedback about process to the list. On 05/06/2013 01:12 PM, Siebrand Mazeland (WMF) wrote: Here is my ranking (snip, thank you!) I would like to provide some feedback, too: The whole process of GSoC was very confusing to me. Students communicated on melange,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Global watchlist and watchlist wishlist

2013-05-06 Thread Aaron Pramana
Brian Wolff bawolff at gmail.com writes: On 2013-05-06 1:31 PM, Quim Gil qgil at wikimedia.org wrote: On 05/06/2013 05:41 AM, Guillaume Paumier wrote: A few people have started to organize the various bug reports about watchlists, but there is still much to do before we have a clear

[Wikitech-l] Extension:OpenID new version 3.30 20130505

2013-05-06 Thread Thomas Gries
tl;dr New OpenID extension version 3.30 20130505 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:OpenID A new version 3.30 20130505 has been published today. It's a security fix and fixes some CSRF and XSS vulnerabilities. The new version is strongly recommended. Has been tested and works with latest

Re: [Wikitech-l] Global watchlist and watchlist wishlist

2013-05-06 Thread Sumana Harihareswara
On 05/06/2013 05:26 PM, Aaron Pramana wrote: Brian Wolff bawolff at gmail.com writes: On 2013-05-06 1:31 PM, Quim Gil qgil at wikimedia.org wrote: On 05/06/2013 05:41 AM, Guillaume Paumier wrote: A few people have started to organize the various bug reports about watchlists, but there is

Re: [Wikitech-l] Global watchlist and watchlist wishlist

2013-05-06 Thread Brian Wolff
+1 Such a rule would seem rather misguided... -bawolff On 2013-05-06 6:58 PM, Sumana Harihareswara suma...@wikimedia.org wrote: On 05/06/2013 05:26 PM, Aaron Pramana wrote: Brian Wolff bawolff at gmail.com writes: On 2013-05-06 1:31 PM, Quim Gil qgil at wikimedia.org wrote: On

Re: [Wikitech-l] Global watchlist and watchlist wishlist

2013-05-06 Thread Sumana Harihareswara
We figured it out. Aaron had been reading a rule wrong, and I've written Google to ask them to clarify it in the future to prevent future misreadings. :( So we can get back to the thread topic - watchlist improvements! -Sumana On 05/06/2013 06:33 PM, Brian Wolff wrote: +1 Such a rule would

Re: [Wikitech-l] RFC: New approach to release notes

2013-05-06 Thread Krinkle
On May 3, 2013, at 9:33 PM, Anomie wrote: On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 1:02 PM, Krinkle wrote: First of all, I think a lot of our commit subjects are poorly written, even for a commit message. Having said that, a good commit subject is also a good release note (that is, if the change itself is

Re: [Wikitech-l] Proposal: Let's move to a one-week deploy cycle

2013-05-06 Thread MZMcBride
Greg Grossmeier wrote: == What are the drawbacks of two-weeks? == These are mostly known by everyone so I'll just simply state the most obvious one :-) It takes up to 2 weeks for new features/bug fixes to be rolled out to the various Wikimedia wikis. This is not a bad thing, though. Two

Re: [Wikitech-l] Proposal: Let's move to a one-week deploy cycle

2013-05-06 Thread Erik Moeller
On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 7:20 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: The reason I ask about a distinction is that there have been a lot of changes to Wikimedia wikis lately and likely more to come, as the Wikimedia Foundation has gotten larger and has more dedicated tech resources. Overall,

[Wikitech-l] [Language Engineering] Office hour on May 8, 2013 at 1700 UTC/1000 PDT

2013-05-06 Thread Runa Bhattacharjee
Hello, The Wikimedia Language Engineering team [1] invites everyone to join the team’s monthly office hour on May 8, 2013 (Wednesday) at 1700 UTC/1000 PDT on #wikimedia-office. During this session we would be talking about some our recent activities and updates from the ongoing projects. Event

Re: [Wikitech-l] Proposal: Let's move to a one-week deploy cycle

2013-05-06 Thread Jon Robson
No negative experiences at all Erik. The only real problems we've run into are people complaining they weren't aware of editing features that we pushed to mobile that users were not aware of due to not using mobile. I reckon this would be less of an issue in desktop. I would ___ love ___ to see a