Re: [Wikitech-l] Why isn't hotcat an extension?

2013-07-18 Thread Helder .
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 7:22 PM, Derk-Jan Hartman wrote: ... > To get what you want, you need: ... > 3: i18n support for gadgets. > 4: Global repositories for gadgets aka https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Gadgets_2.0 > 6: Autogenerated documentation See also: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wik

Re: [Wikitech-l] RFC: Scoping site CSS

2013-07-18 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 07/17/2013 05:59 PM, Yuvi Panda wrote: > Yay! I see several good things that could come out of this, but to > prevent pitchforks and misunderstandings, I think this RFC should be > split some more. > > So ideally, this should be split into multiple RFCs. The ones I can > think of, so far: > >

Re: [Wikitech-l] Long term strategy for math on wikipedia

2013-07-18 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 07/18/2013 12:52 PM, Peter Krautzberger wrote: > I'd be happy to write an RFC. That's an option, but it's perfectly reasonable if you want to talk it out more and let it crystallize some. Matt Flaschen ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.w

Re: [Wikitech-l] Why isn't hotcat an extension?

2013-07-18 Thread Tyler Romeo
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 6:38 PM, Matthew Flaschen wrote: > You should consider putting the API module in core, since other projects > (including Mobile) have had demand for it. > Will do. *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztec

Re: [Wikitech-l] Why isn't hotcat an extension?

2013-07-18 Thread Yuvi Panda
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 4:08 AM, Matthew Flaschen wrote: > You should consider putting the API module in core, since other projects > (including Mobile) have had demand for it. +1. -- Yuvi Panda T http://yuvi.in/blog ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikite

Re: [Wikitech-l] Why isn't hotcat an extension?

2013-07-18 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 07/18/2013 04:04 PM, Antoine Musso wrote: > Le 18/07/13 19:23, MZMcBride a écrit : >> In my view, this kind of misses the point entirely: if MediaWiki had a >> proper API or UI for adding and removing categories (or other metadata), a >> gadget like HotCat would be almost completely unnecessary.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Why isn't hotcat an extension?

2013-07-18 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 07/18/2013 06:00 PM, Tyler Romeo wrote: > On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 5:43 PM, Yuvi Panda wrote: > >> 2. Tyler is working on an Extension for this (or it might already >> exist, as Krinkle pointed out) >> > > I looked at the extension Krinkle pointed out, and it's similar to HotCat > in that it's

Re: [Wikitech-l] Why isn't hotcat an extension?

2013-07-18 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 07/17/2013 06:25 PM, Jon Robson wrote: > This seems like a bad habit to have got ourselves into... All it > takes is a trailing comma somewhere and a gadget could take out a > whole browser. Browsers should not crash due buggy JavaScript. It happens, but in my experience it's not as common as

Re: [Wikitech-l] Why isn't hotcat an extension?

2013-07-18 Thread Sumana Harihareswara
Derk-Jan, Thanks for that list; I know I'll be coming back to it as my team works to reach out to gadget and userscript developers in the future. -- Sumana Harihareswara Engineering Community Manager Wikimedia Foundation On 07/17/2013 06:22 PM, Derk-Jan Hartman wrote: > "If people don't want to

Re: [Wikitech-l] Why isn't hotcat an extension?

2013-07-18 Thread Tyler Romeo
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 5:43 PM, Yuvi Panda wrote: > 2. Tyler is working on an Extension for this (or it might already > exist, as Krinkle pointed out) > I looked at the extension Krinkle pointed out, and it's similar to HotCat in that it's completely JavaScript. I'm hoping to make an API module

Re: [Wikitech-l] Why isn't hotcat an extension?

2013-07-18 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 07/18/2013 05:43 PM, Yuvi Panda wrote: > So, is HotCat replacement extension going to plug into the Beta > Experiments thingy Mark is working on? I suppose there'll be docs on > that at some point of time... There are some: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:BetaFeatures Matt Flaschen

Re: [Wikitech-l] Why isn't hotcat an extension?

2013-07-18 Thread Yuvi Panda
So, summarizing: 1. MarkTraceur (and the Multimedia Team) is working on a way to do 'beta experiments' on live wikis that do not involve things being left to be Gadgets all the time. This can also eventually help 'promote' gadgets into Extensions / Core. 2. Tyler is working on an Extension for thi

Re: [Wikitech-l] Why isn't hotcat an extension?

2013-07-18 Thread Marc A. Pelletier
On 07/18/2013 05:18 PM, David Gerard wrote: > They're local to each wiki, but they should indeed be metadata. Worf and Sapir would have a field day with that idea. :-) -- Marc ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.w

Re: [Wikitech-l] Why isn't hotcat an extension?

2013-07-18 Thread Risker
On 18 July 2013 17:18, David Gerard wrote: > On 18 July 2013 22:07, Tyler Romeo wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Antoine Musso > wrote: > > >> Lets move the categories in wikidata ? =) > > > That'd be nice, but how much time would that take to develop? > > > They're local to each wik

Re: [Wikitech-l] Why isn't hotcat an extension?

2013-07-18 Thread David Gerard
On 18 July 2013 22:07, Tyler Romeo wrote: > On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Antoine Musso wrote: >> Lets move the categories in wikidata ? =) > That'd be nice, but how much time would that take to develop? They're local to each wiki, but they should indeed be metadata. - d. __

Re: [Wikitech-l] Why isn't hotcat an extension?

2013-07-18 Thread Tyler Romeo
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Antoine Musso wrote: > Lets move the categories in wikidata ? =) That'd be nice, but how much time would that take to develop? *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.c

Re: [Wikitech-l] Why isn't hotcat an extension?

2013-07-18 Thread Antoine Musso
Le 18/07/13 19:23, MZMcBride a écrit : > In my view, this kind of misses the point entirely: if MediaWiki had a > proper API or UI for adding and removing categories (or other metadata), a > gadget like HotCat would be almost completely unnecessary. :-) HotCat > exists to fill a void left by Media

Re: [Wikitech-l] Status of MediaWiki Release Management RFP

2013-07-18 Thread Rob Lanphier
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 10:29 AM, MZMcBride wrote: > Is there a status update regarding the MediaWiki Release Management RFP? > indicates > that the goal for an announcement was the second week of July. Hi Mz, I'll respond in Greg'

[Wikitech-l] Status of MediaWiki Release Management RFP

2013-07-18 Thread MZMcBride
Hi. Is there a status update regarding the MediaWiki Release Management RFP? indicates that the goal for an announcement was the second week of July. Apologies in advance if I've simply overlooked an update (I briefly checked my mai

Re: [Wikitech-l] Why isn't hotcat an extension?

2013-07-18 Thread Tyler Romeo
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 1:23 PM, MZMcBride wrote: > In my view, this kind of misses the point entirely: if MediaWiki had a > proper API or UI for adding and removing categories (or other metadata), a > gadget like HotCat would be almost completely unnecessary. :-) HotCat > exists to fill a void

Re: [Wikitech-l] Why isn't hotcat an extension?

2013-07-18 Thread MZMcBride
Tyler Romeo wrote: >Quick question, is there a way in the API (other than action=edit) to >add/remove categories from a page? Because that seems to be one of the >main things that would be holding this back from becoming an extension >proper. In my view, this kind of misses the point entirely: if

Re: [Wikitech-l] Long term strategy for math on wikipedia

2013-07-18 Thread Peter Krautzberger
> > > >> This mailing list is good for discussion, but for long-term strategy, I > >> imagine you want an RFC: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/RFC> > >> >. > >> > > > > Yesterday I recommended Peter to post here in this list. :) I think it > is > > good to t

Re: [Wikitech-l] Long term strategy for math on wikipedia

2013-07-18 Thread Risker
On 18 July 2013 08:10, Quim Gil wrote: > On 07/18/2013 05:31 AM, MZMcBride wrote: > >> Peter Krautzberger wrote: >> >>> There have been a couple of conversations recently and I am hoping to >>> combine them into a discussion towards a long term strategy for math on >>> Wikipedia. >>> >> >> Hi. >>

Re: [Wikitech-l] Why isn't hotcat an extension?

2013-07-18 Thread Krinkle
On Jul 17, 2013, at 11:52 PM, Yuvi Panda wrote: > It's universally liked, is there almost on every wiki, and provides a > much needed functionality. Why isn't this deployed as an extension, or > better yet - part of core, than as a gadget? Just a matter of someone > to do the work? > > -- > Yuvi

[Wikitech-l] Bugzilla administrator rights policy

2013-07-18 Thread Andre Klapper
Better late than never: Recently, I've worked on a document to describe when it is necessary for a user to have administrator rights in bugzilla.wikimedia.org. It affects a small number of Bugzilla users (less than 30) who were contacted via email while drafting the policy. The policy can be fou

Re: [Wikitech-l] Gerrit downtime - Thursday, July 18th

2013-07-18 Thread Chad
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 5:03 PM, Chad wrote: > Hi everyone, > > So, we've got a bad disk on the Gerrit box that needs to be swapped out. > This is going to > cause a little bit of downtime while we fix things up. Therefore, Gerrit > will be unavailable on > Thursday, July 18th (that's 2 days from

Re: [Wikitech-l] Why isn't hotcat an extension?

2013-07-18 Thread Jean-Frédéric
2013/7/17 Yuvi Panda > It's universally liked, is there almost on every wiki, and provides a > much needed functionality. Note that this might not be the same version: for example, the HotCatsMulti [1] deployed on the French-language Wikipedia is a fork of the Commons HotCat (from before it had

Re: [Wikitech-l] Long term strategy for math on wikipedia

2013-07-18 Thread Quim Gil
On 07/18/2013 05:31 AM, MZMcBride wrote: Peter Krautzberger wrote: There have been a couple of conversations recently and I am hoping to combine them into a discussion towards a long term strategy for math on Wikipedia. Hi. This mailing list is good for discussion, but for long-term strategy,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Suggestion for solving the disambiguation problem

2013-07-18 Thread John Erling Blad
Not sure if the analysis has to expose any private data at all, you show the result of the analysis and that would integrate over weeks or months and perhaps after filtering out random noise. Would that be a privacy problem? One of the tricky things is that the disambiguation or search page is a s