[Wikitech-l] Javascript to find other articles having the same external link

2013-08-26 Thread Lars Aronsson

By putting the following code (written by User:EnDumEn) in
user:YOURNAME/common.jsany external link gets an extra little
symbol (⎆), which leads to a link search for that link. This
is very useful for finding other articles that cite the same
source.


jQuery( a.external ).after( function() {
return jQuery( a⎆/a) )
.attr( href, //sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Linksearch/ + this.href )
.before(   );
});



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Re: [Wikitech-l] Javascript to find other articles having the same external link

2013-08-26 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi,
With sources stored in Wikidata finding where the same source is used as
well is implicit. This is a hack, admittedly a nice hack/.
Thanks,
GerardM


On 26 August 2013 09:27, Lars Aronsson l...@aronsson.se wrote:

 By putting the following code (written by User:EnDumEn) in
 user:YOURNAME/common.jsany external link gets an extra little
 symbol (⎆), which leads to a link search for that link. This
 is very useful for finding other articles that cite the same
 source.


 jQuery( a.external ).after( function() {
 return jQuery( a⎆/a) )
 .attr( href, 
 //sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Special:Linksearch/http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Linksearch/
 + this.href )
 .before(   );
 });



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Re: [Wikitech-l] Javascript to find other articles having the same external link

2013-08-26 Thread Ole Palnatoke Andersen
I'd love to see a similar thing for articles linking to the same book via
ISBN.

regards,
Ole


On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 9:46 AM, Gerard Meijssen
gerard.meijs...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hoi,
 With sources stored in Wikidata finding where the same source is used as
 well is implicit. This is a hack, admittedly a nice hack/.
 Thanks,
 GerardM


 On 26 August 2013 09:27, Lars Aronsson l...@aronsson.se wrote:

  By putting the following code (written by User:EnDumEn) in
  user:YOURNAME/common.jsany external link gets an extra little
  symbol (⎆), which leads to a link search for that link. This
  is very useful for finding other articles that cite the same
  source.
 
 
  jQuery( a.external ).after( function() {
  return jQuery( a⎆/a) )
  .attr( href, //sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Special:Linksearch/
 http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Linksearch/
  + this.href )
  .before(   );
  });
 
 
 
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Javascript to find other articles having the same external link

2013-08-26 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi,
grin the same book or also the same book in translation? /grin
Can be theoretically be linked in Wikidata too.
Thanks,
 GerardM


On 26 August 2013 10:07, Ole Palnatoke Andersen o...@palnatoke.org wrote:

 I'd love to see a similar thing for articles linking to the same book via
 ISBN.

 regards,
 Ole


 On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 9:46 AM, Gerard Meijssen
 gerard.meijs...@gmail.comwrote:

  Hoi,
  With sources stored in Wikidata finding where the same source is used as
  well is implicit. This is a hack, admittedly a nice hack/.
  Thanks,
  GerardM
 
 
  On 26 August 2013 09:27, Lars Aronsson l...@aronsson.se wrote:
 
   By putting the following code (written by User:EnDumEn) in
   user:YOURNAME/common.jsany external link gets an extra little
   symbol (⎆), which leads to a link search for that link. This
   is very useful for finding other articles that cite the same
   source.
  
  
   jQuery( a.external ).after( function() {
   return jQuery( a⎆/a) )
   .attr( href, //sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Special:Linksearch/
  http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Linksearch/
   + this.href )
   .before(   );
   });
  
  
  
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Re: [Wikitech-l] WMFs stance on non-GPL code

2013-08-26 Thread Erwin Dokter

On 26-08-2013 02:59, Tyler Romeo wrote:

On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 8:30 PM, Brian Wolff bawo...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'd be surprised if there was a problem with any open
 source license.

Well if it's a MediaWiki extension, it has to be GPL-compatible, otherwise
using it as part of MediaWiki violates the core's own GPL license.


Wrong. WMF can use any software they like on their servers... even 
propriatary software. They are _using_ it, not _distributing_ it.


Compatible licencing is only relevant on software that is distributed, 
in the WMF's case, MediaWiki and related extensions.


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Re: [Wikitech-l] Javascript to find other articles having the same external link

2013-08-26 Thread Mark Holmquist
On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 10:07:16AM +0200, Ole Palnatoke Andersen wrote:
 I'd love to see a similar thing for articles linking to the same book via
 ISBN.

You can do that in the JavaScript just by adding to the selector at the
beginning, and you can also get other magic links at the same time.

jQuery( a.external, a.mw-magiclink-isbn, a.mw-magiclink-pmid, 
a.mw-magiclink-rfc ).after( function() {
  return jQuery( a )
.text( '⎆' )
// Shorter, relative link (could also use mw.Title here maybe)
.attr( href, /wiki/Special:Linksearch/ + this.href )
.before(   );
} );

But it looks like Special:Linksearch doesn't support searching for magic
links, at least not yet. So I'm afraid this is all for nought.

I'm going to hope that CirrusSearch will fix this in some capacity, since
it looks pretty simple to fix, and if Chad would like some help with that,
he knows where to find me...

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Javascript to find other articles having the same external link

2013-08-26 Thread Brian Wolff
On 2013-08-26 8:55 AM, Mark Holmquist mtrac...@member.fsf.org wrote:

 On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 10:07:16AM +0200, Ole Palnatoke Andersen wrote:
  I'd love to see a similar thing for articles linking to the same book
via
  ISBN.

 You can do that in the JavaScript just by adding to the selector at the
 beginning, and you can also get other magic links at the same time.

 jQuery( a.external, a.mw-magiclink-isbn, a.mw-magiclink-pmid,
a.mw-magiclink-rfc ).after( function() {
   return jQuery( a )
 .text( '⎆' )
 // Shorter, relative link (could also use mw.Title here maybe)
 .attr( href, /wiki/Special:Linksearch/ + this.href )
 .before(   );
 } );

 But it looks like Special:Linksearch doesn't support searching for magic
 links, at least not yet. So I'm afraid this is all for nought.

 I'm going to hope that CirrusSearch will fix this in some capacity, since
 it looks pretty simple to fix, and if Chad would like some help with that,
 he knows where to find me...

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For reference that's https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49537

Arguably they aren't really external links and shouldn't be tracked with
them, otoh a table just for magic links seem overkill.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] [WikimediaMobile] Wikimedia Commons mobile photo uploader app updated on iOS and Android

2013-08-26 Thread Adam Baso
Rupert, I saw your question regarding Wikipedia Zero. Wikipedia Zero is
currently targeted for the mobile web, but I'll take this question back to
the business team as to whether we'd be able to support zero-rating of apps
traffic at some point in the future, at least in locales where moderate
bandwidth is available.

Thanks!
-Adam


On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Yuvi Panda yuvipa...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 2:01 AM, rupert THURNER
 rupert.thur...@gmail.com wrote:
  created https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=53328, maybe
  you could detail a little bit more how this api should look like?


 See https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46072 (thanks
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Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki's Login Security

2013-08-26 Thread Chris Steipp
On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 10:05 AM, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Seb35 seb35wikipe...@gmail.com wrote:

  An other solution is the use of one-time passwords [1] for high-security
  or https-unfriendly users (e.g. logging in) or actions (e.g. checkuser
  action). Such one-time passwords can be generated entirely on the client
  side (e.g. a program) or on an external device (e.g. SecurID [2]). This
  transfers the problem unsecure password to a problem protection of the
  password generator (e.g. with an offline password) and introduces the
 key
  distribution problem (e.g. the physical device).


 Would something like Extension:OATHAuth fit this purpose?


The OATH protocol, definitely. One piece I wasn't able to get into our Auth
rework this summer was having 2-step login, so that we could require OATH
for some people, but normal users wouldn't have to. But yeah,




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Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki's Login Security

2013-08-26 Thread Tyler Romeo
On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 11:50 AM, Chris Steipp cste...@wikimedia.orgwrote:

 One piece I wasn't able to get into our Auth
 rework this summer was having 2-step login, so that we could require OATH
 for some people, but normal users wouldn't have to. But yeah,


Yeah...that's a little bit of my fault. Once the merger between
Extension:OATHAuth and Extension:TwoFactorAuthentication is complete, that
feature will exist. See bug 53195.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Feedback/testing wanted: SecureLogin on test2.wikipedia.org

2013-08-26 Thread Chad
On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 6:38 PM, Greg Grossmeier g...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 Hello all,

 We have enabled the newly updated SecureLogin on
 http://test2.wikipedia.org

 Big thanks to Chris and Chad getting this work finalized on Friday and
 taking a bit of their weekend today/tomorrow.

 This is the work described here:
 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Login_security

 The plan of record for what the various questions is summarized here:
 http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2013-August/071441.html
 (also in above RFC)

 Go forth and test! Provide feedback!

 Reply here and/or report bugs, please.


Testing is now extended to mediawiki.org as well. I also merged
the GeoIP config changes.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] WMFs stance on non-GPL code

2013-08-26 Thread C. Scott Ananian
Stated more precisely: a non-GPL-compatible license for an extension means
that the extension can never be distributed with core.

The idea that deployment of software on a server entails license
obligations is a GPLv3 feature; mediawiki is licensed under the GPL v2 (or
later for theoretical redistribution purposes).

Presumably deployment of a GPLv3-only or [[Affero GPL]] extension on a WMF
server might be more problematic, iff WMF were deploying non-GPL-compatible
extensions (I don't know whether that's the case one way or another).  But
that's rather orthogonal to the openness of the source.

Anyway, we could devolve into a flame war and/or discussion of the merits
and disadvantages of various software licenses rather easily, so I'm
suggesting that we limit further discussion on this thread absent a more
focused question from Jeroen.
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Weighted random article

2013-08-26 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 6:38 PM, Maarten Dammers maar...@mdammers.nlwrote:

 If you compare our current implementation to wheel of fortune [1]; all our
 articles are evenly spread around.
 Weighted would be putting bot articles closer to each other so you would
 hit them less often. You just need a good algorithm to calculate this
 distribution.

 You could implement this algorithm as an extension in MediaWiki that
 updates page_random with this different distribution. This way you don't
 need to update the database schema, just the logic at the page save.


As a simple implementation: normally articles are saved with a random sort
key between 0 and 1.  If bot articles were saved with a random sort key
between 0 and 0.1, they would expect to be seen by Special:RandomPage 10
times less often than they were previously.  (Ie, if there were a b% chance
of getting a bot page from Special:RandomPage previously, there would now
be a (b/10)% chance of getting a bot page.)
 --scott

ps. If you want to be numerically precise, you need to be more careful with
the edge conditions.  For example, if there are no non-bot articles, then
90% of the time the algorithm will end up wrapping around and choosing the
lowest-sorted bot article, which would warp the expected distribution.  It
would be more correct to re-roll the dice in that case, which introduces
an extra term into the probability which ends up resolving the apparent
contradiction when b=100%..

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Etherpad Lite labs instance going down in two weeks - backup time

2013-08-26 Thread Ryan Lane
On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 1:49 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.comwrote:

 I already have been archiving my stuff from etherpad on wiki, of course,
 and I've never ever used etherpad.wmflabs.org because I knew everything
 in Labs can die any time, but this doesn't mean that I don't worry for what
 others will lose. Of course I understand it's not the _responsibility_ of
 Labs folks nor ops, but still it would be nice if someone managed to do
 something about it. If I was provided with a list of all existing pads I
 could do something myself; I only found few links from our wikis
 https://toolserver.org/~**nemobis/tmp/ethlabs.txthttps://toolserver.org/~nemobis/tmp/ethlabs.txt



Some people may have placed sensitive info in the pads, assuming some level
of (misguided) privacy since the pages weren't indexed. We're not planning
on doing dumps or even exposing an index.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Etherpad Lite labs instance going down in two weeks - backup time

2013-08-26 Thread Ken Snider

On Aug 26, 2013, at 2:18 PM, Ryan Lane rlan...@gmail.com wrote:

 Some people may have placed sensitive info in the pads, assuming some level
 of (misguided) privacy since the pages weren't indexed. We're not planning
 on doing dumps or even exposing an index.

To further clarify, we'll be keeping a dump in case there's some incredibly 
critical information that was inadvertently pasted into a pad despite the many 
and various warnings about the ephemeral nature of the service - but as Ryan 
said, we have no intention of indexing or even investigating this dump unless 
necessary, and would definitely not release it as a whole for the reasons 
mentioned.

Thanks.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] WMFs stance on non-GPL code

2013-08-26 Thread Derric Atzrott
 Well if it's a MediaWiki extension, it has to be GPL-compatible, otherwise
 using it as part of MediaWiki violates the core's own GPL license.

Wrong. WMF can use any software they like on their servers... even 
propriatary software. They are _using_ it, not _distributing_ it.

Compatible licencing is only relevant on software that is distributed, 
in the WMF's case, MediaWiki and related extensions.

I wasn't even aware though that extensions to be distributed needed to be 
licensed under something that is GPL compatible.  It's been a while since I 
read the GPL.

Looking back over it again (well the FAQ actually), that is very 
non-intuitive... we'd need to fork the Mediawiki process to allow non-GPL 
extensions to be distributed?

I might have to look into licenses again and make sure what I use is GPL 
compatible.   The GPL is such a pain sometimes

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Re: [Wikitech-l] WMFs stance on non-GPL code

2013-08-26 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 3:35 PM, Derric Atzrott 
datzr...@alizeepathology.com wrote:

 I might have to look into licenses again and make sure what I use is GPL
 compatible.   The GPL is such a pain sometimes


https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Licensing:Main is a useful guide.
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Re: [Wikitech-l] WMFs stance on non-GPL code

2013-08-26 Thread Trevor Parscal
VisualEditor is MIT licensed. It was originally GPLv2 by default as per my
contract with Wikimedia, but early on we got written permission from all
authors to change it. We did this because we wanted to ensure maximum
license compatibility for re-use in non-MediaWiki systems.

- Trevor


On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 12:43 PM, C. Scott Ananian
canan...@wikimedia.orgwrote:

 On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 3:35 PM, Derric Atzrott 
 datzr...@alizeepathology.com wrote:

  I might have to look into licenses again and make sure what I use is GPL
  compatible.   The GPL is such a pain sometimes
 

 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Licensing:Main is a useful guide.
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Re: [Wikitech-l] WMFs stance on non-GPL code

2013-08-26 Thread Ryan Lane
On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Trevor Parscal tpars...@wikimedia.orgwrote:

 VisualEditor is MIT licensed. It was originally GPLv2 by default as per my
 contract with Wikimedia, but early on we got written permission from all
 authors to change it. We did this because we wanted to ensure maximum
 license compatibility for re-use in non-MediaWiki systems.


Aren't our contracts generally written to allow us to use any OSI compliant
license, with a preference to GPL 2?

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Re: [Wikitech-l] WMFs stance on non-GPL code

2013-08-26 Thread John Erling Blad
As long as it is a separate extension there is no problem, but if you
bundle it in such a way that it is an integral part of the core then
you might get into trouble.

On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 9:35 PM, Derric Atzrott
datzr...@alizeepathology.com wrote:
 Well if it's a MediaWiki extension, it has to be GPL-compatible, otherwise
 using it as part of MediaWiki violates the core's own GPL license.

Wrong. WMF can use any software they like on their servers... even
propriatary software. They are _using_ it, not _distributing_ it.

Compatible licencing is only relevant on software that is distributed,
in the WMF's case, MediaWiki and related extensions.

 I wasn't even aware though that extensions to be distributed needed to be 
 licensed under something that is GPL compatible.  It's been a while since I 
 read the GPL.

 Looking back over it again (well the FAQ actually), that is very 
 non-intuitive... we'd need to fork the Mediawiki process to allow non-GPL 
 extensions to be distributed?

 I might have to look into licenses again and make sure what I use is GPL 
 compatible.   The GPL is such a pain sometimes

 Thank you,
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Re: [Wikitech-l] WMFs stance on non-GPL code

2013-08-26 Thread Antoine Musso
Le 26/08/13 22:03, Ryan Lane a écrit :
 Aren't our contracts generally written to allow us to use any OSI compliant
 license, with a preference to GPL 2?

My company has a joint copyright agreement with Wikimedia. So I guess
the foundation can publish the work under whatever license :)

My code is licensed under GPLv2+ and the rest under CC-BY-SA (unless
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Re: [Wikitech-l] WMFs stance on non-GPL code

2013-08-26 Thread Luis Villa
On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 10:12 AM, C. Scott Ananian
canan...@wikimedia.orgwrote:


 The idea that deployment of software on a server entails license
 obligations is a GPLv3 feature;


To be clear, that's AGPL-only, not GPL v3.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] [WikimediaMobile] Wikimedia Commons mobile photo uploader app updated on iOS and Android

2013-08-26 Thread Brion Vibber
On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 8:19 AM, Adam Baso ab...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 Rupert, I saw your question regarding Wikipedia Zero. Wikipedia Zero is
 currently targeted for the mobile web, but I'll take this question back to
 the business team as to whether we'd be able to support zero-rating of apps
 traffic at some point in the future, at least in locales where moderate
 bandwidth is available.


I think that once the zero-rating is switched to support HTTPS by using
IP-based instead of Deep Packet Inspection-based HTTP sniffing, ISP
partners wouldn't actually be able to distinguish between mobile web and
mobile apps content unless we actively choose to make them use separate IPs
and domain names.

Especially if, as we think we're going to, the future Wikipedia mobile app
will consist mostly of native code widgets and modules that plug into the
web site embedded in a web control... it'll be loading mostly the same web
pages from the same servers, but running a different mix of JavaScript.

-- brion
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikimedia Commons mobile photo uploader app updated on iOS and Android

2013-08-26 Thread Brion Vibber
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 2:44 PM, Strainu strain...@gmail.com wrote:

 2013/8/21 Brion Vibber bvib...@wikimedia.org:
  (The Commons uploader apps may or may not eventually roll into the main
  Wikipedia app on iOS and Android too, we haven't decided for sure yet.)

 That sound weird (read: divergent from all the stuff we read in the
 WMF plans and reports). Shouldn't the ultimate development goal for
 mobile be total feature parity with desktop?


Pretty much yes parity is what we want! But it'll take some time to redo
the overall UI of Commons on the desktop to not be awful ;) and there's
always a different set of capabilities available to us on different
platforms.

Note that UploadWizard provides much similar functionality in uploading on
the desktop (but with poor offline batching and no direct camera support,
and for large batch uploads there are some usability issues).

A similar view of your uploads to what the Commons app gives can be gotten
on the desktop by jumping through a couple hoops --
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyFiles -- and a more direct
analog is integrated and linked from the sidebar on mobile web -- try
https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Uploads ...

In the future, there'll be more and more convergence as the browsers
improve support for native device functions and offline storage.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Javascript to find other articles having the same external link

2013-08-26 Thread Daniel Friesen
On 2013-08-26 8:06 AM, Brian Wolff wrote:
 On 2013-08-26 8:55 AM, Mark Holmquist mtrac...@member.fsf.org wrote:
 On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 10:07:16AM +0200, Ole Palnatoke Andersen wrote:
 ...
 But it looks like Special:Linksearch doesn't support searching for magic
 links, at least not yet. So I'm afraid this is all for nought.

 I'm going to hope that CirrusSearch will fix this in some capacity, since
 it looks pretty simple to fix, and if Chad would like some help with that,
 he knows where to find me...

 --
 Mark Holmquist
 Software Engineer, Multimedia
 Wikimedia Foundation
 mtrac...@member.fsf.org
 https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/User:MHolmquist
 For reference that's https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49537

 Arguably they aren't really external links and shouldn't be tracked with
 them, otoh a table just for magic links seem overkill.

 -bawolff
Maybe we can fit them into page_props somehow.

Did we have support for 1:many instead of just 1:1 keys in page_props?

~Daniel Friesen (Dantman, Nadir-Seen-Fire) [http://danielfriesen.name/]


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Re: [Wikitech-l] Bugzilla: Separate bug report status when patch is in Gerrit?

2013-08-26 Thread Matthew Flaschen

On 06/06/2013 11:16 AM, Alex Monk wrote:

Also, +1 to a Fixes-Bug: 123 annotation or somesuch, as Timo proposed a
couple of months ago in the rather more cryptic Bug 123 vs. Bug: 123.


+1 from me as well.


Filed as https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=53387

Matt Flaschen


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