Re: [Wikitech-l] Needs Volunteer priority field value in Phabricator

2015-02-25 Thread Brion Vibber
Patch to change 'Needs Volunteer' back to 'Lowest' 
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/192205/ has six +1s but nobody's +2'd
it. (I would but I don't have +2 in that repo.)

Do we have enough consensus to continue on with this change or are we still
collecting feedback on https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T78617?

-- brion

On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 9:42 AM, Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org
wrote:

 Apparently the idea to rename the Priority field value from Lowest in
 Bugzilla to Needs Volunteer in Phabricator created more confusion than
 expected. I am sorry for that - wasn't intended.

 To fix that, there are two questions that welcome input in
 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T78617 :


 1) Our Phabricator currently offers six levels of prioritization. See

 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/Project_management#Priority_levels
 Do project maintainers / devs really feel a need for planning to
 differentiate between low priority and one level below that?
 Or could we reduce our six levels with five levels?

 2) If there is a need for a level below low: Let's rename Needs
 Volunteer back to Lowest (Looking at the proposed names in T78617,
 Lowest seems to be the least confusing term / smallest evil.)


 If you feel like helping make a decision by adding some *additional*
 arguments based on your experience, please raise your voice in T78617
 after reading the existing comments and arguments in that task.

 Thank you for your help!
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Re: [Wikitech-l] server-side HTML templating now live in core

2015-02-25 Thread Jon Robson
Great stuff. cc Wikidata, I know they were interested in replacing
their custom template engine...
I will respond to Krinkle's review for the client side library today.
Jon


On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 12:07 PM, Ryan Kaldari rkald...@wikimedia.org wrote:
 After 14 months of discussion, HTML templating is now live in core
 MediaWiki. Currently only the server-side implementation has been merged. A
 client-side implementation has also been submitted, but is stalled in
 Gerrit (https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/180647/).

 You can now use Mustache templates in your extensions and core code by
 calling TemplateParser-processTemplate(). Full documentation can be found
 at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:HTML_templates.

 There are three main impetuses for this new feature:

 1. Improving the sanity and readability of MediaWiki code. Ideally, our PHP
 code should have little or no HTML in it. We should strive to keep our PHP
 interfaces high-level and with clear separation of concerns. We are a long
 way from conforming to anything like an MVC pattern, but this brings us one
 step closer to being able to achieve that. The work on OOjs and related
 interfaces is another important component of this.

 2. Standardizing our templating implementations. There are currently six
 different HTML templating implementations in various MediaWiki
 extensions.[1] Hopefully, we can now reduce that number.

 3. Moving MobileFrontend into core. We are also a long way away from
 achieving this goal, but now one step closer. MobileFrontend relies heavily
 on HTML templating, so having this feature in core is a pre-requisite to
 moving more MobileFrontend features over.

 I know there is still disagreement about the specific implementation
 details of this feature (such as the choice of Mustache), but this is just
 the first iteration of this feature and I hope we can work together to
 revise and improve it further.

 1.
 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/HTML_templating_library#Existing_implementations_in_MediaWiki_extensions

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Needs Volunteer priority field value in Phabricator

2015-02-25 Thread Dan Garry
As the famous poet Monte Hurd once said... SHIP IT!

Dan


On Wednesday, February 25, 2015, Brion Vibber bvib...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 Patch to change 'Needs Volunteer' back to 'Lowest' 
 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/192205/ has six +1s but nobody's +2'd
 it. (I would but I don't have +2 in that repo.)

 Do we have enough consensus to continue on with this change or are we still
 collecting feedback on https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T78617?

 -- brion

 On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 9:42 AM, Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org
 javascript:;
 wrote:

  Apparently the idea to rename the Priority field value from Lowest in
  Bugzilla to Needs Volunteer in Phabricator created more confusion than
  expected. I am sorry for that - wasn't intended.
 
  To fix that, there are two questions that welcome input in
  https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T78617 :
 
 
  1) Our Phabricator currently offers six levels of prioritization. See
 
 
 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/Project_management#Priority_levels
  Do project maintainers / devs really feel a need for planning to
  differentiate between low priority and one level below that?
  Or could we reduce our six levels with five levels?
 
  2) If there is a need for a level below low: Let's rename Needs
  Volunteer back to Lowest (Looking at the proposed names in T78617,
  Lowest seems to be the least confusing term / smallest evil.)
 
 
  If you feel like helping make a decision by adding some *additional*
  arguments based on your experience, please raise your voice in T78617
  after reading the existing comments and arguments in that task.
 
  Thank you for your help!
  andre
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  http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/
 
 
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Needs Volunteer priority field value in Phabricator

2015-02-25 Thread Brion Vibber
Ok Daniel Zahn poked it. :)

-- brion

On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 10:08 AM, Dan Garry dga...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 As the famous poet Monte Hurd once said... SHIP IT!

 Dan


 On Wednesday, February 25, 2015, Brion Vibber bvib...@wikimedia.org
 wrote:

  Patch to change 'Needs Volunteer' back to 'Lowest' 
  https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/192205/ has six +1s but nobody's
 +2'd
  it. (I would but I don't have +2 in that repo.)
 
  Do we have enough consensus to continue on with this change or are we
 still
  collecting feedback on https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T78617?
 
  -- brion
 
  On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 9:42 AM, Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org
  javascript:;
  wrote:
 
   Apparently the idea to rename the Priority field value from Lowest in
   Bugzilla to Needs Volunteer in Phabricator created more confusion
 than
   expected. I am sorry for that - wasn't intended.
  
   To fix that, there are two questions that welcome input in
   https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T78617 :
  
  
   1) Our Phabricator currently offers six levels of prioritization. See
  
  
 
 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/Project_management#Priority_levels
   Do project maintainers / devs really feel a need for planning to
   differentiate between low priority and one level below that?
   Or could we reduce our six levels with five levels?
  
   2) If there is a need for a level below low: Let's rename Needs
   Volunteer back to Lowest (Looking at the proposed names in T78617,
   Lowest seems to be the least confusing term / smallest evil.)
  
  
   If you feel like helping make a decision by adding some *additional*
   arguments based on your experience, please raise your voice in T78617
   after reading the existing comments and arguments in that task.
  
   Thank you for your help!
   andre
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   http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/
  
  
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[Wikitech-l] Reminder: VisualEditor weekly triage meetings – 2015-02-25/26

2015-02-25 Thread James Forrester
As a reminder, this week's VisualEditor triage meeting will be at
​00
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20150225T16p1=224ah=1
:00 UTC
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20150225T16p1=224ah=1
​ ​
on Thursday
​26
 February (
​16
:00 PST on Wednesday 25 February) – that's in approximately 5 hours' time.

Joining instructions are on mw:Talk:VisualEditor/Portal
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:VisualEditor/Portal#How_to_join_the_triage_meetings
​.
Hope to see many of you there.

Yours,
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Re: [Wikitech-l] server-side HTML templating now live in core

2015-02-25 Thread Jeroen De Dauw
Hey,

Cool to see MediaWiki move in this direction!

Cheers

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[Wikitech-l] Wikimedia Hackathon travel sponsorship

2015-02-25 Thread Quim Gil
Hi, we are hoping to open registration to the Wikimedia Hackathon in Lyon
next week. Those of you relying on travel sponsorship can start preparing
your requests already now:

# Familiarize yourself with the goals of the hackathon:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Hackathons#The_Wikimedia_Hackathon_model

# Join or propose a demo-able project in Phabricator:
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/wikimedia-hackathon-2015/

# Find a hackathon buddy in the Wikimedia communities or related projects
out there: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Lyon_Hackathon_2015/Buddies

Here you have a draft form to get an idea of what questions you will be
asked: http://goo.gl/forms/MPzx8q7BBz (not a real form; data submitted will
be ignored and deleted)

Your feedback about the process is welcome, especially in the related
Phabricator task: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88406

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