Re: [Wikitech-l] can't get git-review to work

[Antoine Musso]

Le 21/10/2015 23:46, Ryan Kaldari a écrit :
> Tried Brandon's suggestion (and some others that I got privately), but no
> luck. Also tried uninstalling and reinstalling git-review.
> 
> When I do "echo $PATH":
> /usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/bin:/Users/kaldari/bin:/usr/local/mysql/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/lib/php:/usr/local/php5/bin
> 
> which pip:
> /usr/local/bin/pip
> 
> which easy_install:
> /usr/local/bin/easy_install

Use pip instead :-}

> which git-review:
> /usr/local/bin/git-review
> 
> But 'git-review' or 'git review' still give the same stack trace. I'll try
> asking in #git. Thanks for the suggestions!

When invoking 'git foobar', if 'foobar' is not an internal git command
or an alias, it will lookup in the path for 'git-foobar' and invoke it.
 So both 'git-review' and 'git review' ends up being slightly the same.

git-review is a thin wrapper on top of git that has been written by
OpenStack people for their community. So people in #git are unlikely to
know about it.

You might want to try either:

#openstack   -  the general channel should have ton of git-review users
#openstack-infra - the equivalent of WMF ops has people maintaining
git-review among other tools.



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Re: [Wikitech-l] can't get git-review to work

[Antoine Musso]

Le 21/10/2015 22:47, Ryan Kaldari a écrit :
> Recently I upgraded my Mac to OSX 10.10.5 and upgraded a lot of other stuff
> in the process. But now I can't get git-review to work. Whenever I try to
> run it, it gives the following stacktrace:

> "/Library/Python/2.7/site-packages/distribute-0.6.14-py2.7.egg/pkg_resources.py",
> line 552, in resolve
> raise DistributionNotFound(req)
> pkg_resources.DistributionNotFound: git-review

This is an issue in setuptools pkg_resources. You want to upgrade
setuptools:

 pip install --upgrade setuptools

Should solve the issue.

...
> If I run "/usr/bin/easy_install --version":
> distribute 0.6.14

easy_install is legacy it is replaced by pip.


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Re: [Wikitech-l] mattermost.org (open source Slack alternative)

[Guillaume Paumier]

Hi,

On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 7:20 AM, Brian Gerstle  wrote:
> Mattermost.org

> I'm curious what others about it as a potential chat client* and as an open
> source project in general.

On the subject of "open-source Slack alternatives" someone also
mentioned Zulip recently:
https://www.zulip.org/
https://zulip.com/integrations/

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Re: [Wikitech-l] mattermost.org (open source Slack alternative)

[Nasir Khan]

Gitlab is recently working on to integrate Mattermost as a open source
Slack alternative and mentioned the reasons to choose this. you can read
their blog post.
https://about.gitlab.com/2015/08/18/gitlab-loves-mattermost/


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On 22 October 2015 at 23:45, Guillaume Paumier 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 7:20 AM, Brian Gerstle 
> wrote:
> > Mattermost.org
>
> > I'm curious what others about it as a potential chat client* and as an
> open
> > source project in general.
>
> On the subject of "open-source Slack alternatives" someone also
> mentioned Zulip recently:
> https://www.zulip.org/
> https://zulip.com/integrations/
>
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Re: [Wikitech-l] can't get git-review to work

[Addshore]

As someone that has never used git-review I would
suggest not using git-review ;)

On 22 October 2015 at 10:32, Rosalie Perside 
wrote:

> I was in the channel yesterday and i think that Kaldari had this
> problem solved with an advice d3r1ck gave him. A guy in #git gave
> Kaldari and idea and it worked but he forgot to update the mailing
> list.
>
> Cheers Rosalie
>
> On 10/22/15, Antoine Musso  wrote:
> > Le 21/10/2015 22:47, Ryan Kaldari a écrit :
> >> Recently I upgraded my Mac to OSX 10.10.5 and upgraded a lot of other
> >> stuff
> >> in the process. But now I can't get git-review to work. Whenever I try
> to
> >> run it, it gives the following stacktrace:
> > 
> >>
> "/Library/Python/2.7/site-packages/distribute-0.6.14-py2.7.egg/pkg_resources.py",
> >> line 552, in resolve
> >> raise DistributionNotFound(req)
> >> pkg_resources.DistributionNotFound: git-review
> >
> > This is an issue in setuptools pkg_resources. You want to upgrade
> > setuptools:
> >
> >  pip install --upgrade setuptools
> >
> > Should solve the issue.
> >
> > ...
> >> If I run "/usr/bin/easy_install --version":
> >> distribute 0.6.14
> >
> > easy_install is legacy it is replaced by pip.
> >
> >
> > --
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> >
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Re: [Wikitech-l] can't get git-review to work

[Rosalie Perside]

I was in the channel yesterday and i think that Kaldari had this
problem solved with an advice d3r1ck gave him. A guy in #git gave
Kaldari and idea and it worked but he forgot to update the mailing
list.

Cheers Rosalie

On 10/22/15, Antoine Musso  wrote:
> Le 21/10/2015 22:47, Ryan Kaldari a écrit :
>> Recently I upgraded my Mac to OSX 10.10.5 and upgraded a lot of other
>> stuff
>> in the process. But now I can't get git-review to work. Whenever I try to
>> run it, it gives the following stacktrace:
> 
>> "/Library/Python/2.7/site-packages/distribute-0.6.14-py2.7.egg/pkg_resources.py",
>> line 552, in resolve
>> raise DistributionNotFound(req)
>> pkg_resources.DistributionNotFound: git-review
>
> This is an issue in setuptools pkg_resources. You want to upgrade
> setuptools:
>
>  pip install --upgrade setuptools
>
> Should solve the issue.
>
> ...
>> If I run "/usr/bin/easy_install --version":
>> distribute 0.6.14
>
> easy_install is legacy it is replaced by pip.
>
>
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[Wikitech-l] mattermost.org (open source Slack alternative)

[Brian Gerstle]

Mattermost.org

Not only does it look pretty cool, but I really, really like their community
portal
.
It looks incredibly easy  to
file bugs, submit feature requests, vote for and discuss existing feature
requests, and find a features ready to accept volunteer contributions.

I'm curious what others about it as a potential chat client* and as an open
source project in general.  Seems like it could be easy to evaluate,
especially if we use our fancy new kubernetes infrastructure to spin up a
container

for
one or more teams to try out.

Thoughts?

Brian

* FYI, there's already a feature request for an IRC bridge


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Re: [Wikitech-l] mattermost.org (open source Slack alternative)

[Stephen Niedzielski]

I think this might be a dividing subject. I speak only for myself in saying
that I am on board with trying open source IRC alternatives. If you have a
test group going somewhere, please sign me up!


--stephen

On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 8:20 AM, Brian Gerstle 
wrote:

> Mattermost.org
>
> Not only does it look pretty cool, but I really, really like their
> community
> portal
> <
> http://forum.mattermost.org/t/welcome-to-mattermost-community-discussion/8
> >.
> It looks incredibly easy  to
> file bugs, submit feature requests, vote for and discuss existing feature
> requests, and find a features ready to accept volunteer contributions.
>
> I'm curious what others about it as a potential chat client* and as an open
> source project in general.  Seems like it could be easy to evaluate,
> especially if we use our fancy new kubernetes infrastructure to spin up a
> container
> <
> https://github.com/mattermost/platform/blob/master/doc/install/Docker-Single-Container.md#one-line-docker-install
> >
> for
> one or more teams to try out.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Brian
>
> * FYI, there's already a feature request for an IRC bridge
> <
> http://mattermost.uservoice.com/forums/306457-general/suggestions/9425586-irc-bridge
> >
>
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[Wikitech-l] Emacs for MediaWiki

[Mark A. Hershberger]

Hijacking a thread because this is something I've spent a lot of time
working on.

Tyler Romeo  writes:

> If I had the time, I would definitely put together some sort of
> .dir-locals.el for MediaWiki, that way we could make better use of Emacs,
> since it has a bunch of IDE-like functionality, even if it's not IDEA-level
> powerful.

A client wanted to me to help train someone to take over the work for
maintaining their MediaWiki installation.  As part of that work, they
asked for an IDE and, knowing that other MW devs used PHPStorm, I
recommended it and they bought a copy for me and the person I was
supposed to train.

PHPStorm has "emacs keybindings" but these are just replacements for the
CUA keybindings.  Somethings that I expected the keybindings to invoke,
didn't.  (It's been a while since I've used PHPStorm, so I've forgotten
the details.)

In any case, I've found that a lot of what I wanted from PHPStorm could
be implemented in Emacs using the following .dir-locals.el (which I put
above my core and extensions checkouts):

((nil . ((flycheck-phpcs-standard . ".../mediawiki/codesniffer/MediaWiki")
 (flycheck-phpmd-rulesets . 
(".../mediawiki/messdetector/phpmd-ruleset.xml"))
 (mode . flycheck)
 (magit-gerrit-ssh-creds  . "m...@gerrit.wikimedia.org")
 )))

The above is in addition to the code-sniffing I already had set up to
put Emacs' php-mode into the MW style.  You can see this documented on
[[mw:Manual:Coding_conventions]].

The one thing that PHPStorm lacked (and where Emacs' magit excels) is
dealing with git submodules.  Since I make extensive use of submodules
for my MediaWiki work, this set up makes Emacs a much better tool for
working with MediaWiki.

Naturally, I won't claim that what works for me will work for anyone
else.  I've spent 15 years in Emacs every day.  I was first exposed to
Emacs in the late 80s(!!) so the virus has had a long time to work its
way into my psyche and by now I'm incurable.

Mark.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] can't get git-review to work

[Jamison Lofthouse]

I use legoktm's grr tool (https://github.com/legoktm/grr).

Negative24
jdloft.com

On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 5:40 AM, Addshore  wrote:

> As someone that has never used git-review I would
> suggest not using git-review ;)
>
> On 22 October 2015 at 10:32, Rosalie Perside 
> wrote:
>
> > I was in the channel yesterday and i think that Kaldari had this
> > problem solved with an advice d3r1ck gave him. A guy in #git gave
> > Kaldari and idea and it worked but he forgot to update the mailing
> > list.
> >
> > Cheers Rosalie
> >
> > On 10/22/15, Antoine Musso  wrote:
> > > Le 21/10/2015 22:47, Ryan Kaldari a écrit :
> > >> Recently I upgraded my Mac to OSX 10.10.5 and upgraded a lot of other
> > >> stuff
> > >> in the process. But now I can't get git-review to work. Whenever I try
> > to
> > >> run it, it gives the following stacktrace:
> > > 
> > >>
> >
> "/Library/Python/2.7/site-packages/distribute-0.6.14-py2.7.egg/pkg_resources.py",
> > >> line 552, in resolve
> > >> raise DistributionNotFound(req)
> > >> pkg_resources.DistributionNotFound: git-review
> > >
> > > This is an issue in setuptools pkg_resources. You want to upgrade
> > > setuptools:
> > >
> > >  pip install --upgrade setuptools
> > >
> > > Should solve the issue.
> > >
> > > ...
> > >> If I run "/usr/bin/easy_install --version":
> > >> distribute 0.6.14
> > >
> > > easy_install is legacy it is replaced by pip.
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Antoine "hashar" Musso
> > >
> > >
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Developer Relations Weekly Summary

[Pine W]

Hi Quim,

I'm glad to see the tasks about 3D files in there. Open license 3D files
were a need mentioned at WCONUSA for GLAMs.

There has been a lot of discussion recently about the Education Exension's
problems. Any chance of getting Developer Relations resources in making
that code at least secure and maintainable enough to keep it deployed on
its current wikis in the short term and in order to buy some time for
development of long term solutions?

I want to express moral support for anything related to improving the code
review experience, which seems to be a pinch point in multiple workflows
and I hear is a subject of frequent concern. I would support finding
additional budget resources (preferably through internal transfer rather
than new expenditure) to address this problem if analysis shows that
transferring or adding some resources (maybe 0.5 FTE?) would make a
meaningful difference.

Can you provide a brief update on how the deployment is going of the
Newsletter extension?

Thanks!
Pine
On Oct 22, 2015 3:24 AM, "Quim Gil"  wrote:

> Third edition of the still experimental Developer Relations Weekly Summary.
> This time introducing sections.
>
>
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developer_Relations/Weekly_summary#2015-10-22
> Events
>
>- Tech Talk: Introduction to Free and Open Source Licensing at Wikimedia
> on
> 2015-10-23
>17:00 UTC
><
> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Tech+Talk%3A+Introduction+to+Free+and+Open+Source+Licensing+at+Wikimedia=20151023T17=%3A=1
> >,
>by Slaporte (WMF)
> aka Slaporte
>.
>- The Wikimedia Developer Summit 2016
> has 10
>session proposals on track
> >,
>7 missing active discussion, 36 missing expected information.
>- Wikimania 2015 survey results
><
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Evaluation/Case_studies/Wikimania_Mexico_Survey_Results#Direct_products
> >:
>"The majority (*53%*) of Hackathon participants *discussed future work*,
>and the second-highest mentioned accomplishment was *fixing bugs* (*34%*
>)"
>
> Outreach
>
>- Outreachy round 11  >
> has 9 featured project ideas
> and 5
>proposals submitted by candidates
> welcoming
>community feedback. The deadline for submissions is 2015-11-02.
>- Google Code-in 2015
> is coming, and our
>planning has started .
>
> Documentation
>
>- API:Presenting Wikidata knowledge
> is a
>new article for the Web APIs hub
>.
>
> Community health
>
>- The discussion about the Code of Conduct draft
><
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Code_of_conduct_for_technical_spaces/Draft>
> welcomes
>feedback on these points:
>   - "Publication of non-harassing private communication"
>   <
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Code_of_conduct_for_technical_spaces/Draft
> >
>(new proposal
>   )
>   - "Project administrators and maintainers have the right and
>   responsibility..."
>   <
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Code_of_conduct_for_technical_spaces/Draft
> >
>(rewording proposal
>   )
>   - Finishing the "Report a problem" section
>    (new)
>
> Project management
>
>- Now anybody can join and watch the Operations project
> in
>Phabricator. (Phab:T90491 )
>- Are the Commons ,
>Wikisource , and
>Wiktionary  projects
>in Phabricator useful? (Phab:T111046
>)
>
> Code review
>
>- Gerrit Cleanup Day: lessons learned
> and proposal for a new
>edition  in January 2016.
>- Decide/document whether "controversial" changes should be marked as
>CR-2 in Code Review. (Phab:T115850
>)
>
> Metrics
>

Re: [Wikitech-l] mattermost.org (open source Slack alternative)

[Jonathan Morgan]

me too. I like IRC, but a lot of my colleagues aren't on it because it's...
well, IRC. If there's a more inclusive OSS option, let's try it.

J

On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 7:36 AM, Stephen Niedzielski <
sniedziel...@wikimedia.org> wrote:

> I think this might be a dividing subject. I speak only for myself in saying
> that I am on board with trying open source IRC alternatives. If you have a
> test group going somewhere, please sign me up!
>
>
> --stephen
>
> On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 8:20 AM, Brian Gerstle 
> wrote:
>
> > Mattermost.org
> >
> > Not only does it look pretty cool, but I really, really like their
> > community
> > portal
> > <
> >
> http://forum.mattermost.org/t/welcome-to-mattermost-community-discussion/8
> > >.
> > It looks incredibly easy 
> to
> > file bugs, submit feature requests, vote for and discuss existing feature
> > requests, and find a features ready to accept volunteer contributions.
> >
> > I'm curious what others about it as a potential chat client* and as an
> open
> > source project in general.  Seems like it could be easy to evaluate,
> > especially if we use our fancy new kubernetes infrastructure to spin up a
> > container
> > <
> >
> https://github.com/mattermost/platform/blob/master/doc/install/Docker-Single-Container.md#one-line-docker-install
> > >
> > for
> > one or more teams to try out.
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
> > Brian
> >
> > * FYI, there's already a feature request for an IRC bridge
> > <
> >
> http://mattermost.uservoice.com/forums/306457-general/suggestions/9425586-irc-bridge
> > >
> >
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Developer Relations Weekly Summary

[bawolff]

> There has been a lot of discussion recently about the Education Exension's
> problems. Any chance of getting Developer Relations resources in making
> that code at least secure and maintainable enough to keep it deployed on
> its current wikis in the short term and in order to buy some time for
> development of long term solutions?
>

I can't speak for Quim, but normally I'd expect that to be pretty far
outside what developer relations does.
Based on recent commits, community-tech seems to be the current dumping
ground for please-fix-other-people's-messes type bugs (Although that might
just be coincidental. I doubt that has anything with what the team wants to
do so much as there is overlap between what they want to do and other
people's messes).

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Developer Relations Weekly Summary

[Andre Klapper]

Hi,

On Thu, 2015-10-22 at 08:23 -0700, Pine W wrote:
> There has been a lot of discussion recently about the Education Exension's
> problems. Any chance of getting Developer Relations resources in making
> that code at least secure and maintainable enough to keep it deployed on
> its current wikis in the short term and in order to buy some time for
> development of long term solutions?

See https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T110619#1714416
Potentially related: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T91676

> I want to express moral support for anything related to improving the code
> review experience, which seems to be a pinch point in multiple workflows
> and I hear is a subject of frequent concern. I would support finding
> additional budget resources (preferably through internal transfer rather
> than new expenditure) to address this problem if analysis shows that
> transferring or adding some resources (maybe 0.5 FTE?) would make a
> meaningful difference.

Wikimedia plans to migrate code review from Gerrit to Phabricator's
Differential - see https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114311

There is also a task about reducing code review queues + waiting times
which welcomes input: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T101686

> Can you provide a brief update on how the deployment is going of the
> Newsletter extension?

https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T110170 is the corresponding task, as
far as I know the tasks listed under "Blocked By" are up-to-date.

Cheers,
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Re: [Wikitech-l] can't get git-review to work

[Ryan Kaldari]

I tried upgrading setuptools, but that didn't help. Still got the same
error.

Apparently the problem was with my Python environment. OSX 10.10 (El
Capitan) comes with it's own Python installation. So after I upgraded to El
Capitan, pip wanted to start installing everything for the other Python
instead of my regular command-line Python. The only way that I was able to
fix it was to nuke the OSX pre-installed Python (/Library/Python/),
uninstall git-review, and reinstall it. Not a very elegant solution, but it
worked.

On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 7:14 AM, Jamison Lofthouse <
jamison.loftho...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I use legoktm's grr tool (https://github.com/legoktm/grr).
>
> Negative24
> jdloft.com
>
> On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 5:40 AM, Addshore  wrote:
>
> > As someone that has never used git-review I would
> > suggest not using git-review ;)
> >
> > On 22 October 2015 at 10:32, Rosalie Perside 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I was in the channel yesterday and i think that Kaldari had this
> > > problem solved with an advice d3r1ck gave him. A guy in #git gave
> > > Kaldari and idea and it worked but he forgot to update the mailing
> > > list.
> > >
> > > Cheers Rosalie
> > >
> > > On 10/22/15, Antoine Musso  wrote:
> > > > Le 21/10/2015 22:47, Ryan Kaldari a écrit :
> > > >> Recently I upgraded my Mac to OSX 10.10.5 and upgraded a lot of
> other
> > > >> stuff
> > > >> in the process. But now I can't get git-review to work. Whenever I
> try
> > > to
> > > >> run it, it gives the following stacktrace:
> > > > 
> > > >>
> > >
> >
> "/Library/Python/2.7/site-packages/distribute-0.6.14-py2.7.egg/pkg_resources.py",
> > > >> line 552, in resolve
> > > >> raise DistributionNotFound(req)
> > > >> pkg_resources.DistributionNotFound: git-review
> > > >
> > > > This is an issue in setuptools pkg_resources. You want to upgrade
> > > > setuptools:
> > > >
> > > >  pip install --upgrade setuptools
> > > >
> > > > Should solve the issue.
> > > >
> > > > ...
> > > >> If I run "/usr/bin/easy_install --version":
> > > >> distribute 0.6.14
> > > >
> > > > easy_install is legacy it is replaced by pip.
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > > Antoine "hashar" Musso
> > > >
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