Re: [Wikitech-l] Two Column Edit Conflict View as a beta feature on all wikis

[Pine W]

Thank you for working on this!

Pine
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Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wmfall] MediaWiki Documentation Day is tomorrow!

[Victoria Coleman]

This is awesome! So glad it's happening!


Victoria

> On May 11, 2017, at 7:20 PM, Ryan Kaldari  wrote:
> 
> Tomorrow (or today if you're in Asia/Australia) is the day to take a break 
> from writing code and instead devote some time to writing and updating 
> documentation. If you're not sure what would be good to write about, here are 
> some places with suggestions:
> * https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_Documentation_Day_2017#Requests
> * https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/documentation/
> * https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T126500
> 
> Be sure to list your documentation achievements at 
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_Documentation_Day_2017#Results.
> 
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[Wikitech-l] MediaWiki Documentation Day is tomorrow!

[Ryan Kaldari]

Tomorrow (or today if you're in Asia/Australia) is the day to take a break
from writing code and instead devote some time to writing and updating
documentation. If you're not sure what would be good to write about, here
are some places with suggestions:
* https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_Documentation_Day_2017#Requests
* https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/documentation/
* https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T126500

Be sure to list your documentation achievements at
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_Documentation_Day_2017#Results.
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Global language preference

[Legoktm]

Hi,

On 05/11/2017 07:29 AM, Amir E. Aharoni wrote:
> 2017-05-11 17:16 GMT+03:00 Brad Jorsch (Anomie) :
>> Of course, if someone does want to work on implementing a global
>> preferences extension and doing the work to get it deployed, then more
>> power to them. A better solution to be sure, but it'll likely take more
>> time and effort.

> My understanding is that the code is kind of there already, but it would
> have to be deployed, and before deployment it would have to be reviewed. So
> the manager to convince would be the manager of the team that needs to
> review and deploy it.

So I wrote Extension:GlobalPreferences[1] a while back because the Tool
Labs tool I wrote was a pretty hacky prototype that I was unhappy with.

The main place the extension needs work is a UI that isn't extremely
hacky. The part that loads user options out of a central table and
overrides locally set ones is basically done.

[1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:GlobalPreferences

-- Legoktm

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Global language preference

[Amir E. Aharoni]

2017-05-11 17:16 GMT+03:00 Brad Jorsch (Anomie) :

> On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 7:41 PM, MZMcBride  wrote:
>
> > How is duplicating a default
> > value to hundreds of wikis, in a separate code base with its own user
> > interface, a sane or desirable architecture?
> >
>
> Sane or desirable? Probably not. But it seems a lot easier for someone to
> get that working than to design, implement, and deploy global preferences
> in MediaWiki, either in core or as an extension.
>
> Of course, if someone does want to work on implementing a global
> preferences extension and doing the work to get it deployed, then more
> power to them. A better solution to be sure, but it'll likely take more
> time and effort.
>
> Or, I suppose, someone can try to convince a WMF team's PM that it should
> be prioritized above the team's existing work. But that seems like the
> least timely way to get it done, and I can give no estimate of the
> probability of success.
>

My understanding is that the code is kind of there already, but it would
have to be deployed, and before deployment it would have to be reviewed. So
the manager to convince would be the manager of the team that needs to
review and deploy it.

Being the PM of the Language team, I couldn't support global preferences
(and lots of other global things) any more strongly, as they would be
clearly beneficial to the users of multiple wikis. But in the current
organizational structure, the implementation and the deployment of global
preferences is much closer to the realm of the MediaWiki Platform team.


--
Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי
http://aharoni.wordpress.com
‪“We're living in pieces,
I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Global language preference

[Brad Jorsch (Anomie)]

On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 7:41 PM, MZMcBride  wrote:

> How is duplicating a default
> value to hundreds of wikis, in a separate code base with its own user
> interface, a sane or desirable architecture?
>

Sane or desirable? Probably not. But it seems a lot easier for someone to
get that working than to design, implement, and deploy global preferences
in MediaWiki, either in core or as an extension.

Of course, if someone does want to work on implementing a global
preferences extension and doing the work to get it deployed, then more
power to them. A better solution to be sure, but it'll likely take more
time and effort.

Or, I suppose, someone can try to convince a WMF team's PM that it should
be prioritized above the team's existing work. But that seems like the
least timely way to get it done, and I can give no estimate of the
probability of success.


-- 
Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
Senior Software Engineer
Wikimedia Foundation
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