[Wikitech-l] 2017-08-30 Scrum of Scrums meeting notes

[Grace Gellerman]

https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Scrum_of_scrums/2017-08-30

= 2017-08-30 =

== Callouts ==
* Selenium Ruby framework deprecation at the end of October
** Announcement:
https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2017-August/088653.html12:31:12
* trebuchet is to scheduled be removed at quarter's end. It's effectively
replaced by scap. Salt (the foundation upon trebuchet is built) will be
removed too. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T164780
* IE8-on-XP support being dropped. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T163251
* Ganglia is being moved behind LDAP authentication for security reasons
plus deprecation https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/374320/
* eqiad frack refresh preparation in progress, temptative transition
scheduled for Sept. 20th. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T174218
* Would like somebody from Ops who knows dumps to review:
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/373354/

== Audiences ==

=== Readers ===

 Multimedia 
* 3D work continuing as usual - have some deploy bumps to pave over
* Onboarding 1 engineer and 1 PM, will take up some of our productivity

 iOS 
* Blocked by: none
* Blocking: none
* Updates:
** Working on 5.6.1 with minor bug fixes (
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/view/2898/ ), goes to public beta
this week
** Next up is 5.6.7 ( https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/view/2899/
)

 Discovery 
* Blocked by: none
* Blocking: none
* Updates:
** Running search result thumbnails AB test this/next week

Reading Infrastructure 
* adding article concatenation support to Collection extension

=== Contributors ===
 Global Collaboration 
= Language =
* No Blocker/Blocking.
* CX-VE work continue.
* Preparing for cxserver deployment (with lots of changes/improvements!)
* New MT service in review: Matxin.
= Collaboration =
* Updates:
** ChangesList filters
*** RCFilters: Minimize saved query before comparison
({{phabricator|T174193}})
*** WLFilters: set default values ({{phabricator|T171134}})
*** RCFilters: Adjust highlight for seen/unseen states in Watchlist
({{phabricator|T171235}})
*** WLFilters: Fix seen/unseen filters ({{phabricator|T171127}})
*** RCFilters: Enable 'View newest' ({{phabricator|T163426}})
*** RCFilters: Hide saved queries from anonymous users
({{phabricator|T173992}})
*** WLFilters: avoid querying the DB when filters are in conflict
({{phabricator|T171132}})
*** Various bug fixes
* Blockers
** Resolved a Flow issue that was blocking dumps ({{phabricator|T172025}})

=== Community Tech ===
* Post-deployment fixes to LoginNotify and CodeMirror
* Working on GlobalPreferences and ArticleCreationWorkflow

== Technology ==
=== Analytics ===
* Blocked by:
* Blocking:
* Updates:

=== Cloud Services ===
* Blocked by:
* Blocking:
* Updates:

=== Fundraising Tech ===
* No blocker/blocking
* Trying to optimize things for December (db writes, fs access, etc)
* More work on handling donations where the user returns with no session
cookies
* More work on main CC processor - new API and audit file format

=== MediaWiki Platform ===
* Blocked by:
* Blocking:
* Updates:

=== Performance ===
* Blocked by:
* Blocking:
* Updates:

=== Release Engineering ===
* Blocked by: none
* Blocking: none
* Updates:
** Selenium Ruby framework deprecation announce:
https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2017-August/088653.html 1
2:31:12
*** End of October deprecation date.
** Team kanban:
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/board/2769/query/rAdBKbHGnFVu/

=== Research ===
* Blocked by:
* Blocking:
* Updates:

=== Scoring Platform ===
* Blocked by:
** Bit of ops support to help us diagnose file handle starvation during
stress testing.  https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T174402.
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T169246
* Blocking:
** Moving our service over to a new, dedicated cluster.
* Updates:
** Thresholds feature is announced and ready for testing,
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/phame/post/view/68/more_better_model_information_and_threshold_optimizations/
** Over the next few weeks, we're finalizing a schema for commenting on or
judging almost any wiki artifact:
https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/meta_ores_schema
** Working to formally identify our stakeholders.
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/ORES/Stakeholders

=== Search Platform ===
* Blocked by: none
* Blocking: none
* Updates:
** Continuing work on ML-assisted ranking
** A/B tests for interleaved results and human-graded relevancy concluded,
analyzing results next
** Fixed issue with punctuation and Chinses language (T172653)
** Categories to RDF code merged, need review for
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/373354/ from somebody who knows dumps
** WDQS logs now go to logstash
** Sent inquiry to wiki communities about extending the list of namespaces
searched by default (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T170473)
* Analyzed some unexpected behavior of searchin Japanese:
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T173650

=== Security ===
* Blocked by: None
* 

Re: [Wikitech-l] Update to web print styles

[Isarra Yos]

On 30/08/17 17:41, Jon Robson wrote:

On Wed, Aug 30, 2017, 10:16 AM Bartosz Dziewoński 
wrote:


On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 10:18 PM, Isarra Yos  wrote:


Are these changes in core, or in the skins themselves (Vector and
Minerva)? In other words, will printing from other deployed skins such as
MonoBook also see improvement, or is it up to the maintainers of each

other

skin to independently apply similar changes?


As far as I know, the big features are only in Vector, but core styles have
also received a few tweaks.


Yep that's right. They are also feature flagged. There are also some in
MediaWiki:Print.css

Most of the styles in Vector could be applied to all skins if that's useful
provided they can be overridden  (via getDefaultModules ) but that's not a
priority right now whole we get these tested  and easily done later on.

Minerva doesn't need these styles for instance.


An optional core module might be good here - like the external links 
one, the ones with all the content object styles, etc.





https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/message:print+(project:mediawiki/core+OR+project:mediawiki/skins/Vector)+is:merged


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Re: [Wikitech-l] Update to web print styles

[Jon Robson]

On Wed, Aug 30, 2017, 10:16 AM Bartosz Dziewoński 
wrote:

> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 10:18 PM, Isarra Yos  wrote:
>
> > Are these changes in core, or in the skins themselves (Vector and
> > Minerva)? In other words, will printing from other deployed skins such as
> > MonoBook also see improvement, or is it up to the maintainers of each
> other
> > skin to independently apply similar changes?
> >
>
> As far as I know, the big features are only in Vector, but core styles have
> also received a few tweaks.
>

Yep that's right. They are also feature flagged. There are also some in
MediaWiki:Print.css

Most of the styles in Vector could be applied to all skins if that's useful
provided they can be overridden  (via getDefaultModules ) but that's not a
priority right now whole we get these tested  and easily done later on.

Minerva doesn't need these styles for instance.




>
> https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/message:print+(project:mediawiki/core+OR+project:mediawiki/skins/Vector)+is:merged
>
>
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[Wikitech-l] CREDIT showcase - replacing with smaller demos

[Adam Baso]

Hello -

I'm writing today to let you know that we're cancelling the recurring
CREDIT showcase (https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/CREDIT_showcase). Turnout
has been relatively low for a while, and it requires a fair amount of setup
each month.

Going forward, we'll return to the previous approach, which was having
individual teams sharing demo videos on their own. Please be on the lookout
for such demos along the way on wikitech-l.

In closing, I'd like to thank everyone who's participated in CREDIT in the
past. I've appreciated all of the hard work that goes into planning these
events and the neat things you've all shared along the way.

Thank you.
-Adam
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Update to web print styles

[Bartosz Dziewoński]

On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 10:18 PM, Isarra Yos  wrote:

> Are these changes in core, or in the skins themselves (Vector and
> Minerva)? In other words, will printing from other deployed skins such as
> MonoBook also see improvement, or is it up to the maintainers of each other
> skin to independently apply similar changes?
>

As far as I know, the big features are only in Vector, but core styles have
also received a few tweaks.

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/message:print+(project:mediawiki/core+OR+project:mediawiki/skins/Vector)+is:merged


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[Wikitech-l] [CoC] Call for feedback on the proposed amendments

[Amir Ladsgroup]

Hello,
Based on the text of Code of Conduct in technical spaces "Every three
months, the Committee collects the ideas proposed (if any) and organizes a
call for feedback announced in the main technical spaces." [0]

This is our first call for feedback on the proposed amendments and we
humbly ask you to chime in and help us make the code of conduct better.
Voice them in the talk page of the code of conduct.

The proposed amendments are:
* Explicitly mentioning Tool Forge (formally known as tool labs) in the CoC
[1]
* Including GitHub-hosted projects that are connected to the Wikimedia
community [2]
* Removing the part allowing discrimination when it's required by law. [3]
* Adding a part of mentioning impersonation as an unacceptable behavior. [4]


[0]: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Code_of_Conduct/Amendments
[1]:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Code_of_Conduct#Suggested_Amendment:_Add_tool_labs
[2]
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Code_of_Conduct#Suggested_Amendment:_Include_GitHub

[3]
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Code_of_Conduct#Suggested_Amendment:_Remove_.E2.80.9Cunless_required_by_law.E2.80.9D
[4]
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Code_of_Conduct#Suggested_Amendment:_No_impersonation

Thank you,
Amir on behalf of the Code of Conduct committee
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