Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki and OpenID Connect

2018-05-08 Thread Adam Sobieski
My thanks to all for an interesting discussion / debate. I hope that those who 
participated also enjoyed the exchange of ideas.

Those so interested are expressly welcomed to contribute on the encyclopedia 
article(s) Account Verification 
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Account_verification) and a potential Account 
Verification on Wikipedia section or article where I will collate and summarize 
our discussion and what I learned during it. I will be sure to reference 
content utilized in our discussion (e.g. [1]).


Best regards,
Adam

P.S.: My thanks again to Gergo. I may take Gergo up on petitioning the 
MediaWiki OpenID Connect team with regard to these highly configurable features 
or myself contributing to the MediaWiki codebase 
(https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developer_hub). I do write software and know 
PHP.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:There_is_no_credential_policy

From: Kaartic Sivaraam
Sent: Tuesday, May 8, 2018 1:26 PM
To: Wikimedia developers; Adam 
Sobieski
Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki and OpenID Connect

On Tuesday 08 May 2018 07:57 PM, Adam Sobieski wrote:
> In response to some discussion, I now consider there to be two distinct 
> topics: (1) MediaWiki software should provide configurable OpenID Connect 
> features for account verification and account linking, (2) Wikipedia should 
> utilize and configure such features at all, in a certain way or have a 
> certain policy.
>

I think Gergo has made a valid and strong point by pointing out a
decision that has already been made [0].

Regardless, you might be very interested in finding a conclusion to a
long-standing problem. Unfortunately, this doesn't seem to be the right
place to discuss this (as already noted by someone else on this thread).
Try discussing this in the "Wikimedia Forum" [1] or the "Village pump of
enwiki" [2] and similar pages on other projects. You would get a better
discussion there.

[0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:There_is_no_credential_policy

[1]: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Forum

[2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump


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QUOTE:

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else on the team more valuable, not the person who knows the most.”

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Sivaraam?

You possibly might have noticed that my signature recently changed from
'Kaartic' to 'Sivaraam' both of which are parts of my name. I find the
new signature to be better for several reasons one of which is that the
former signature has a lot of ambiguities in the place I live as it is a
common name (NOTE: it's not a common spelling, just a common name). So,
I switched signatures before it's too late.

That said, I won't mind you calling me 'Kaartic' if you like it [of
course ;-)]. You can always call me using either of the names.


KIND NOTE TO THE NATIVE ENGLISH SPEAKER:

As I'm not a native English speaker myself, there might be mistaeks in
my usage of English. I apologise for any mistakes that I make.

It would be "helpful" if you take the time to point out the mistakes.

It would be "super helpful" if you could provide suggestions about how
to correct those mistakes.

Thanks in advance!


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[Wikitech-l] Update on page issues on mobile web

2018-05-08 Thread Chris Koerner
Hi everyone.

The Readers web team has recently begun working on exposing issue
templates on the mobile website. [0] Currently, details about issues
with page content are generally hidden on the mobile website. This
leaves readers unaware of the reliability of the pages they are
reading. The goal of this project is to improve awareness of
particular issues within an article on the mobile web. We will do this
by changing the visual styling of page issues.

So far, we have drafted a proposal on the design and implementation of
the project. [1] We were also able to run user testing on the proposed
designs. [2] The tests so far have positive results. Here is a quick
summary of what we learned:

* The new treatment increases awareness of page issues among
participants. This is true particularly when they are in a more
evaluative/critical mode.
* Page issues make sense to readers and they understand how they work
* Readers care about page issues and consider them important
* Readers had overwhelmingly positive sentiments towards Wikipedia
associated with learning about page issues

Our next step would be to start implementing these changes. We wanted
to reach out to you for any concerns, thoughts, and suggestions you
might have before beginning development. Please visit the project page
where we have more information and mockups of how this may look. [1]
Please leave feedback on the talk page. [3]

[0] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Reading/Web/Team
[1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Reading/Web/Projects/Mobile_Page_Issues
[2] 
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Reading/Web/Projects/Mobile_Page_Issues/Research_Results
[3] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Reading/Web/Projects/Mobile_Page_Issues

Yours,
Chris Koerner
Community Liaison
Wikimedia Foundation

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Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki and OpenID Connect

2018-05-08 Thread Kaartic Sivaraam
On Tuesday 08 May 2018 07:57 PM, Adam Sobieski wrote:
> In response to some discussion, I now consider there to be two distinct 
> topics: (1) MediaWiki software should provide configurable OpenID Connect 
> features for account verification and account linking, (2) Wikipedia should 
> utilize and configure such features at all, in a certain way or have a 
> certain policy.
> 

I think Gergo has made a valid and strong point by pointing out a
decision that has already been made [0].

Regardless, you might be very interested in finding a conclusion to a
long-standing problem. Unfortunately, this doesn't seem to be the right
place to discuss this (as already noted by someone else on this thread).
Try discussing this in the "Wikimedia Forum" [1] or the "Village pump of
enwiki" [2] and similar pages on other projects. You would get a better
discussion there.

[0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:There_is_no_credential_policy

[1]: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Forum

[2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump


-- 
Sivaraam

QUOTE:

“The most valuable person on any team is the person who makes everyone
else on the team more valuable, not the person who knows the most.”

  - Joel Spolsky


Sivaraam?

You possibly might have noticed that my signature recently changed from
'Kaartic' to 'Sivaraam' both of which are parts of my name. I find the
new signature to be better for several reasons one of which is that the
former signature has a lot of ambiguities in the place I live as it is a
common name (NOTE: it's not a common spelling, just a common name). So,
I switched signatures before it's too late.

That said, I won't mind you calling me 'Kaartic' if you like it [of
course ;-)]. You can always call me using either of the names.


KIND NOTE TO THE NATIVE ENGLISH SPEAKER:

As I'm not a native English speaker myself, there might be mistaeks in
my usage of English. I apologise for any mistakes that I make.

It would be "helpful" if you take the time to point out the mistakes.

It would be "super helpful" if you could provide suggestions about how
to correct those mistakes.

Thanks in advance!



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Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki and OpenID Connect

2018-05-08 Thread Adam Sobieski
Gergo,



In response to some discussion, I now consider there to be two distinct topics: 
(1) MediaWiki software should provide configurable OpenID Connect features for 
account verification and account linking, (2) Wikipedia should utilize and 
configure such features at all, in a certain way or have a certain policy.



With respect to topic one, MediaWiki software, there are dozens of projects at 
and outside of the Wikimedia Foundation which utilize MediaWiki software. There 
is also an OpenID Connect extension: 
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:OpenID_Connect .



With respect to topic two, Wikipedia, account verification features and 
resultant options and tools for administrators mitigate a number of problems, 
including but not limited to: sockpuppetry [1][2][3], multiple accounts [4], 
conflict of interest editing [5][6], advocacy editing [7], propaganda [8], bots 
[9], griefing [10], trolling [11], spamming, vandalism [12], fake news 
[13][14], misinformation [13][14] / disinformation [14], political manipulation 
and election interference.



While data is scarce with regard to the number of occurrences of each on 
Wikipedia, we can see that the administrative processes of mitigating 
sockpuppetry, for instance, are costly and continual, investigations occurring 
daily [3].



To indicate the importance of the problems listed above, I am searching for 
more Wikimedia Foundation materials [14].



Thank you for the hyperlinks. Those interested in the future of credentials 
technology might find the W3C Credentials Community Group interesting 
(https://www.w3.org/community/credentials/).





Best regards,

Adam



[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sock_puppetry

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Signs_of_sock_puppetry

[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations

[4] 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Username_policy#Using_multiple_accounts

[5] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest

[6] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conflict-of-interest_editing_on_Wikipedia

[7] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Advocacy

[8] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Propaganda

[9] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bot_policy

[10] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Griefing

[11] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/What_is_a_troll%3F

[12] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Vandalism

[13] https://blog.wikimedia.org/2017/07/17/misinformation-fake-news-censorship/

[14] 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2017/Sources/Considering_2030:_Misinformation,_verification,_and_propaganda




From: Wikitech-l  on behalf of Gergo 
Tisza 
Sent: Tuesday, May 8, 2018 6:33:24 AM
To: Wikimedia developers
Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki and OpenID Connect

On Fri, May 4, 2018 at 10:21 PM Adam Sobieski 
wrote:

> In the scenario, after choosing to verify their name on their Wikipedia
> account, a user logs onto Wikipedia and uses OpenID Connect to link their
> Wikipedia account to multiple verified accounts, for example their Facebook
> and LinkedIn accounts. At the end of the process, we can envision the user
> obtaining a checkmark next to their full name on Wikipedia, their real name
> and a verification icon appearing next to their edits and on their user
> page. There might even be, per user settings, hyperlinks to their Facebook
> and LinkedIn pages on their Wikipedia user page. With such features, we can
> envision allowing groups of users or admins to determine that certain
> articles require a verified account to edit.
>

There has been a fair amount of discussion (mainly after the Essjay affair)
on verified expert accounts on English Wikipedia, but ultimately the idea
has been rejected. You can read about it at [1].
As others have noted, account linking is a fairly minor convenience for
having verified real-life identities; if there was any intent to make that
happen it would have happened regardless of software support.

Having non-public account linking (as an antispam measure that has better
user experience than captchas) is a more feasible idea IMO; I wrote some
thoughts on that at [2].

If you just want public links to verified accounts in MediaWiki (as opposed
to Wikipedia / other Wikimedia projects), there is nothing stopping you;
you should propose a patch to the OpenID Connect maintainer (all it takes
is probably just adding a hook such as GetPreferences to display the
information at the appropriate place) or write your own extension.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:There_is_no_credential_policy
[2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Tgr_(WMF)/external_login
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[Wikitech-l] AdvancedSearch beta feature available on all wikis

2018-05-08 Thread Birgit Müller
(cross-post)

Dear all,

we are really happy to announce that the new AdvancedSearch interface got
deployed as a beta feature to all wikis just now. [1]

The search has great options to perform advanced queries e.g. by using
keywords like "hastemplate" or "intitle", but often even experienced
editors don't know about it - this is what we found out in a workshop
series on advanced searches in 2016 and this is why we have built the
AdvancedSearch extension. [2]

AdvancedSearch enhances Special:Search through an advanced parameters form.
It serves as an interface for some of the search options that the Wikimedia
Foundation's search team has been implemented over the past years. The way
the interface works, users don't have to know the syntax behind each search
field, but they can learn about it if they want to.



*From small beta to full beta*
The feature already has been a beta feature on deWP, arWP, huWP, faWP and
mediawiki.org for more than 5 months. During this "small beta phase" (=
base version with a set of features, deployed to a few wikis, both ltr and
rtl wikis) support for more search options got added (searches in
categories and sub categories, searches for content in a specific language
in wikis that have the translate extension enabled, searches for subpages
of a page), the way how to select and configure namespaces got improved and
several bugs were fixed.

Everyone is invited to test the now full beta feature!

If you want to give us feedback or if you find a bug, please use the main
feedback page (or file a ticket in phabricator):

https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help_talk:Extension:AdvancedSearch

If you want to learn more about the project, the functional scope of the
AdvancedSearch extension and the usage, please see
* the help page: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:AdvancedSearch
*the main project page: https://meta.wikimedia.org/
wiki/WMDE_Technical_Wishes/AdvancedSearch
* the list of supported search options:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMDE_Technical_Wishes/AdvancedSearch/Functional_scope



*Thanks, thanks, thanks :-)*A huge thanks to everyone who has tested the
feature and gave feedback over the last 5 months and to everyone who has
translated software messages and announcements - this is much appreciated!
And a huge thanks to the WMF's search team who has done all the backend
work and has built great options for advanced search queries that now can
be accessed through the AdvancedSearch interface. It was and is great to
work with you :-)

Looking forward to more testing and feedback to further improve the feature,

Thanks a lot,

Birgit
(for WMDE's Technical Wishes team)


[1] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T193182
(Deployment ticket)
[2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMDE_Technical_Wishes/AdvancedSearch
/Workshop





-- 
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Community Communications Manager
Software Development and Engineering




Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin
Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0
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[Wikitech-l] Wednesday: Technical Advice IRC Meeting

2018-05-08 Thread Michael Schönitzer
Sorry for cross-posting!

Reminder: Technical Advice IRC meeting again **tomorrow, Wednesday 3-4 pm
UTC** on #wikimedia-tech.

The Technical Advice IRC meeting is open for all volunteer developers,
topics and questions. This can be anything from "how to get started" over
"who would be the best contact for X" to specific questions on your project.

If you know already what you would like to discuss or ask, please add your
topic to the next meeting:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Technical_Advice_IRC_Meeting

Hope to see you there!
Michi (for WMDE’s tech team)

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Apa yang membuat anda gembira minggu ini? / What's making you happy this week? (Week of 6 May 2018)

2018-05-08 Thread Kaartic Sivaraam
On Sunday 06 May 2018 11:27 PM, Pine W wrote:
> I was happy to read about the new features in the latest release of the 
> Wikimedia Commons app for Android. My understanding is the app is developed 
> and maintained by community members with funding from WMF and GSoC in 
> addition to volunteer time.
> 

This seems to be a correct understanding, indeed.

> What's making you happy this week? You are welcome to comment in any language.
> 

I'm happy about the fact that reading lists are now synced in the
Wikipedia App with the Wikipedia account you use in it. Further, the
syncing is done in both Android and iOS and works across both platforms.
o further add to it, work is being done to enable reading lists for the
web [1]! Though it has been a few weeks since the change has been
deployed, I noticed the announcement just recently.

I'm also happy about the fact that the Wikimedia Commons Android app is
considering the usage of a fairly new and experimental RESTBase endpoint
(/page/media) for introducing a new feature to the app [2]. Feel free to
chime in to the discussion to provide your related thoughts/suggestions.

References:

[1]: https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/mobile-l/2018-April/010634.html

[2]: https://github.com/commons-app/apps-android-commons/issues/872

-- 
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QUOTE:

“The most valuable person on any team is the person who makes everyone
else on the team more valuable, not the person who knows the most.”

  - Joel Spolsky


Sivaraam?

You possibly might have noticed that my signature recen tly changed from
'Kaartic' to 'Sivaraam' both of which are parts of my name. I find the
new signature to be better for several reasons one of which is that the
former signature has a lot of ambiguities in the place I live as it is a
common name (NOTE: it's not a common spelling, just a common name). So,
I switched signatures before it's too late.

That said, I won't mind you calling me 'Kaartic' if you like it [of
course ;-)]. You can always call me using either of the names.


KIND NOTE TO THE NATIVE ENGLISH SPEAKER:

As I'm not a native English speaker myself, there might be mistaeks in
my usage of English. I apologise for any mistakes that I make.

It would be "helpful" if you take the time to point out the mistakes.

It would be "super helpful" if you could provide suggestions about how
to correct those mistakes.

Thanks in advance!



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Re: [Wikitech-l] Getting a local dump of Wikipedia in HTML

2018-05-08 Thread Kaartic Sivaraam
On Tuesday 08 May 2018 05:53 PM, Kaartic Sivaraam wrote:
> On Friday 04 May 2018 03:49 AM, Bartosz Dziewoński wrote:
>> On 2018-05-03 20:54, Aidan Hogan wrote:
>>> I am wondering what is the fastest/best way to get a local dump of
>>> English Wikipedia in HTML? We are looking just for the current
>>> versions (no edit history) of articles for the purposes of a research
>>> project.
>>
>> The Kiwix project provides HTML dumps of Wikipedia for offline reading:
>> http://www.kiwix.org/downloads/
>>
> 
> In case you need pure HTML and not the ZIM file format, you could check
> out mwoffliner[1], ...

Note that the HTML is (of course) is not the same as the one you see
when visiting Wikipedia. For example, the side bar links are not present
here, the ToC would not be present.


-- 
Sivaraam

QUOTE:

“The most valuable person on any team is the person who makes everyone
else on the team more valuable, not the person who knows the most.”

  - Joel Spolsky


Sivaraam?

You possibly might have noticed that my signature recently changed from
'Kaartic' to 'Sivaraam' both of which are parts of my name. I find the
new signature to be better for several reasons one of which is that the
former signature has a lot of ambiguities in the place I live as it is a
common name (NOTE: it's not a common spelling, just a common name). So,
I switched signatures before it's too late.

That said, I won't mind you calling me 'Kaartic' if you like it [of
course ;-)]. You can always call me using either of the names.


KIND NOTE TO THE NATIVE ENGLISH SPEAKER:

As I'm not a native English speaker myself, there might be mistaeks in
my usage of English. I apologise for any mistakes that I make.

It would be "helpful" if you take the time to point out the mistakes.

It would be "super helpful" if you could provide suggestions about how
to correct those mistakes.

Thanks in advance!



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Re: [Wikitech-l] Getting a local dump of Wikipedia in HTML

2018-05-08 Thread Kaartic Sivaraam
On Friday 04 May 2018 03:49 AM, Bartosz Dziewoński wrote:
> On 2018-05-03 20:54, Aidan Hogan wrote:
>> I am wondering what is the fastest/best way to get a local dump of
>> English Wikipedia in HTML? We are looking just for the current
>> versions (no edit history) of articles for the purposes of a research
>> project.
> 
> The Kiwix project provides HTML dumps of Wikipedia for offline reading:
> http://www.kiwix.org/downloads/
> 

In case you need pure HTML and not the ZIM file format, you could check
out mwoffliner[1], the tool used to generate ZIM files. It dumps HTML
files locally before generating the ZIM file. Though, HTML is an
intermediary for the tool it could be held back if you wish. See [2] for
more information about what options the tool accepts.

I'm not sure if it's possible to instruct the tool to stop immediately
after the dumping of the pages thus avoiding the creation of the ZIM
file altogether. But you could work around it by perusing the 'verbose'
output (turned on through the '--verbose' option) of the tool to
identify when dumping has been completed and stop it manually.

In case of any doubts about using the tool, feel free to reach out.

References:
[1]: https://github.com/openzim/mwoffliner
[2]: https://github.com/openzim/mwoffliner/blob/master/lib/parameterList.js


-- 
Sivaraam

QUOTE:

“The most valuable person on any team is the person who makes everyone
else on the team more valuable, not the person who knows the most.”

  - Joel Spolsky


Sivaraam?

You possibly might have noticed that my signature recently changed from
'Kaartic' to 'Sivaraam' both of which are parts of my name. I find the
new signature to be better for several reasons one of which is that the
former signature has a lot of ambiguities in the place I live as it is a
common name (NOTE: it's not a common spelling, just a common name). So,
I switched signatures before it's too late.

That said, I won't mind you calling me 'Kaartic' if you like it [of
course ;-)]. You can always call me using either of the names.


KIND NOTE TO THE NATIVE ENGLISH SPEAKER:

As I'm not a native English speaker myself, there might be mistaeks in
my usage of English. I apologise for any mistakes that I make.

It would be "helpful" if you take the time to point out the mistakes.

It would be "super helpful" if you could provide suggestions about how
to correct those mistakes.

Thanks in advance!



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Re: [Wikitech-l] Gerrit newcomer bot

2018-05-08 Thread Gergo Tisza
Awesome, thanks all for working on this!

Would it be possible to also support something like ownerin:volunteers?

On Fri, May 4, 2018 at 8:45 PM Srishti Sethi  wrote:

> *Hello all,A quick update related to Gerrit -- you will notice a small
> change on patches uploaded by new developers. There is a bot now which is
> adding a reviewer (as "Welcome, new contributor!") and a welcome message in
> a comment to a patch submitted by a new developer. You would also be able
> to query patches of new developers by typing in the search term: `ownerin:
> newcomers` (only applicable to new patches).Learn more about the bot, and
> file an issue here: https://github.com/srish/gerrit-newcomer-bot
> OR comment on the related
> Phab task: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T192046
> Thanks,Srishti *
>
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Re: [Wikitech-l] 2018-05-02 Scrum of Scrums meeting notes

2018-05-08 Thread Gergo Tisza
On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 8:24 PM, Kunal Mehta  wrote:

> On 05/02/2018 11:02 AM, Grace Gellerman wrote:
> > * Services: If someone maintains/knows JobQueue Job code that posts
> > jobs cross-wiki, please tell us.
>
> MassMessage and GlobalUserPage both post jobs across wikis and rely on
> that functionality. Are there specific questions related to cross-wiki
> jobs?
>

The context is https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T193471
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Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki and OpenID Connect

2018-05-08 Thread Gergo Tisza
On Fri, May 4, 2018 at 10:21 PM Adam Sobieski 
wrote:

> In the scenario, after choosing to verify their name on their Wikipedia
> account, a user logs onto Wikipedia and uses OpenID Connect to link their
> Wikipedia account to multiple verified accounts, for example their Facebook
> and LinkedIn accounts. At the end of the process, we can envision the user
> obtaining a checkmark next to their full name on Wikipedia, their real name
> and a verification icon appearing next to their edits and on their user
> page. There might even be, per user settings, hyperlinks to their Facebook
> and LinkedIn pages on their Wikipedia user page. With such features, we can
> envision allowing groups of users or admins to determine that certain
> articles require a verified account to edit.
>

There has been a fair amount of discussion (mainly after the Essjay affair)
on verified expert accounts on English Wikipedia, but ultimately the idea
has been rejected. You can read about it at [1].
As others have noted, account linking is a fairly minor convenience for
having verified real-life identities; if there was any intent to make that
happen it would have happened regardless of software support.

Having non-public account linking (as an antispam measure that has better
user experience than captchas) is a more feasible idea IMO; I wrote some
thoughts on that at [2].

If you just want public links to verified accounts in MediaWiki (as opposed
to Wikipedia / other Wikimedia projects), there is nothing stopping you;
you should propose a patch to the OpenID Connect maintainer (all it takes
is probably just adding a hook such as GetPreferences to display the
information at the appropriate place) or write your own extension.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:There_is_no_credential_policy
[2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Tgr_(WMF)/external_login
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Introducing Quibble, a test runner for MediaWiki

2018-05-08 Thread Jaime Crespo
I've created https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T194125 No matter if we
enable innodb_large_preffix, migrate to binary only or reduce the maximum
size of indexes, there is work/migrations/installer changes/maintenance
needed for each of the possible solutions.

On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 5:18 PM, Brad Jorsch (Anomie)  wrote:

> On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 10:57 AM, Jaime Crespo 
> wrote:
>
> > > MediaWiki currently doesn't even try to support UTF-8
> >
> > I thought the installer gave the option to chose between binary and utf8
> > 83-bytes)?
>
>
> Hmm. Yes, it looks like it does. But if all fields are varbinary, does it
> matter? Maybe it should be removed from the installer.
>
> There's also a $wgDBmysql5 configuration setting, which controls whether
> MediaWiki does "SET NAMES 'utf8'" or "SET NAMES 'binary'". I don't know
> what difference this makes, maybe none since all the columns are varbinary.
>
>
> > innodb_large_preffix cannot be enabled anymore because it is enabled
> > (hardcoded) automatically on MySQL 8.0.
> >
>
> That's good, once we raise the supported version that far. Currently it
> looks like we still support 5.5.8, which at least has the setting to
> enable.
>
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> Senior Software Engineer
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