Hi Pine,

sent a message (
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Recent_changes_patrol&diff=906393864&oldid=902955627)
to Wikipedia talk:Recent changes patrol. Technical village pump receives
tech news, so I believe it isn't necessary to write an explicit message
there.

I totally understand what you say, that's the reason why I wrote a
notification in advance to this list.

Martin

po 15. 7. 2019 v 3:56 odesílatel Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> napsal:

> Hi Martin,
>
> I think that putting the info in Tech News is a good idea. I would suggest
> reaching out to wikis that get large volumes of new users to ask for input
> from patrollers and other users who could be affected. Here are a few
> places that I would recommend on ENWP for short notices regarding the
> proposed change.
>
> * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Recent_changes_patrol
> * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)
>
> I also suggest testing the change in phases before scaling it up to all
> wikis, in order to check for unintended consequences.
>
> Thank you in advance for being careful about the implementation of this
> change. The change might work perfectly well, but sometimes "the road to
> hell is paved with good intentions", so I think that some advance
> consultation and a phased rollout with a moderate amount of testing would
> be a good idea.
>
> Pine
> ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 14, 2019 at 9:43 PM Martin Urbanec <
> martin.urba...@wikimedia.cz>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Pine,
> >
> > well, I'm a patroller, admin and a checkuser myself, and as you know, I
> > don't see a problem with this change :-). Anyway, I'm just one of them.
> At
> > least in cswiki, admns don't have issues with manually confirming users
> on
> > request by course coordinator, autoconfirmed shouldn't be a big deal.
> >
> > Don't know how to consult (all) patrollers etc., IIRC there is no central
> > list for them or anything like that. Feel free to forward my message to
> > anywhere you think it is helpful (please, ping me/CC me in such messages,
> > so I can watch the conversation on that place as well).
> >
> > I've added
> > <
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tech%2FNews%2F2019%2F30&type=revision&diff=19203494&oldid=19203433
> > >this
> > to next tech news, to notify about this change more widely than "just" on
> > wikitech-l.
> >
> > Martin
> >
> > pá 12. 7. 2019 v 0:05 odesílatel Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> napsal:
> >
> > > Hi Martin,
> > >
> > > I'm not familiar with all of the information about how WMF currently
> uses
> > > CAPTCHAs, but I suggest being careful about doing anything that could
> add
> > > to the workloads of volunteer patrollers, admins, and checkusers. My
> > > feeling is that you should consult with people who are most likely to
> get
> > > more work as a result of this change, even if you think that any
> negative
> > > impact will be negligible. There may be some requests for carefully
> > > designed tests to ensure that any changes do not result in surprise
> > > increases to workloads for existing volunteers who already have more
> than
> > > enough work to do.
> > >
> > > Pine
> > > ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jul 8, 2019 at 2:37 PM Martin Urbanec <
> > martin.urba...@wikimedia.cz
> > > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I created https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T227487, which proposes
> to
> > > add
> > > > skipcaptcha to all users coming from throttle-exempted IP addresses
> > (see
> > > > /wmf-config/throttle.php in operations/mediawiki-config for that).
> This
> > > can
> > > > make some events go more smoothly. Given users coming from such
> > addresses
> > > > are generally trusted, this shouldn't be an issue IMHO.
> > > >
> > > > What do the others think?
> > > >
> > > > Martin
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