Re: [Wikitech-l] [tools] Bot dispatcher

2013-07-27 Thread Petr Bena
On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 10:25 PM, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 8:37 AM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: After some thinking and talking to YuviPanda I decided to make it just as an ordinary tool instead of whole service. So that it would mostly consist

Re: [Wikitech-l] python vs php

2013-07-27 Thread Petr Bena
Well I know I can write a website in c++ (you can always extend apache with some nice module), but despite it would be probably very effective (much faster than using interpreted language) it would require a lot of work to do that. I am no huge fan of python, in fact I don't like it very much,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Announcement: Mark y Markus leading MediaWiki Release Management

2013-07-26 Thread Petr Bena
Marrk!! \o :-) Congrats man and good luck On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 8:14 PM, Ryan Lane rlan...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 8:41 AM, Greg Grossmeier g...@wikimedia.org wrote: Full announcement on the blog:

[Wikitech-l] [IRC] wm-bot major update

2013-07-15 Thread Petr Bena
Hi all, wm-bot, our fellow irc bot [0] has became more popular than I expected [1] and currently is being used in more than 90 channels. Unfortunately, freenode has a limit for maximum channels per user which is AFAIK little over 100 per user Because I don't want to restrict users from being

Re: [Wikitech-l] Moving on from Doxygen?

2013-07-06 Thread Petr Bena
Why you want to move from it? Just create a new project on labs (tools) and cron a job. It only need to checkout latest MW and regenerate the documentation, this is so simple you could even have multiple of these interfaces and everyone could pick what they like On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 10:19 AM,

[Wikitech-l] [labs] bots project is turning to testing environment of tools project

2013-06-15 Thread Petr Bena
Hi Most of you already know that, but I will repeat it once more, so that everyone who is using bots project is aware of that. Since tool labs (project tools on wikimedia labs) is now serving the purpose which bots project on labs initially served for, we decided to convert bots project to

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Labs-l] [labs] bots project is turning to testing environment of tools project

2013-06-15 Thread Petr Bena
: On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 4:51 AM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: Most of you already know that, but I will repeat it once more, so that everyone who is using bots project is aware of that. Since tool labs (project tools on wikimedia labs) is now serving the purpose which bots project

Re: [Wikitech-l] [MediaWiki-l] IRC Office Hour (was Re: RFP Submissions: Please review and ask questions! - Next Steps)

2013-06-14 Thread Petr Bena
http://bots.wmflabs.org/~wm-bot/logs/%23wikimedia-office/ and likely elsewhere as well On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 10:40 PM, Wjhonson wjhon...@aol.com wrote: Where is this public policy discussion going to be archived for those who cannot attend -Original Message- From: Greg

Re: [Wikitech-l] [tool labs] central logging service

2013-06-09 Thread Petr Bena
...@gmail.com On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 6:36 AM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: Replies bellow On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Ori Livneh o...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 1:44 AM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, per https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org

[Wikitech-l] [tool labs] central logging service

2013-06-08 Thread Petr Bena
Hi, per https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48846 we are setting up a logging service for tools and bots, so that every tool or bot can easily log to a central logging base which in future should support some nice web-based gui with log filtering (eventually some 3rd notifications,

Re: [Wikitech-l] [tool labs] central logging service

2013-06-08 Thread Petr Bena
of :) On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, per https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48846 we are setting up a logging service for tools and bots, so that every tool or bot can easily log to a central logging base which in future should support some

Re: [Wikitech-l] [tool labs] central logging service

2013-06-08 Thread Petr Bena
Replies bellow On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Ori Livneh o...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 1:44 AM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, per https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48846 we are setting up a logging service for tools and bots, so that every tool

Re: [Wikitech-l] Server reboots now through next week

2013-05-18 Thread Petr Bena
will consider updating my servers as well asap On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 11:47 AM, Happy Melon happy.melon.w...@gmail.com wrote: On 17 May 2013 23:26, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: hey, could you point me to that security patch? I am curious as I am myself running bunch of linux boxes +1

Re: [Wikitech-l] Server reboots now through next week

2013-05-18 Thread Petr Bena
More information: http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Exploit-for-local-Linux-kernel-bug-in-circulation-Update-1863892.html On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 3:18 PM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: so far I found the problem with perf_events where exploit-containing binary can elevate permissions

Re: [Wikitech-l] Server reboots now through next week

2013-05-17 Thread Petr Bena
hey, could you point me to that security patch? I am curious as I am myself running bunch of linux boxes On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 9:00 PM, Greg Grossmeier g...@wikimedia.org wrote: This past week there was an important security release for the Linux kernel. As such, we will be updating and

Re: [Wikitech-l] [IRC - bot] wm-bot outage

2013-05-13 Thread Petr Bena
with logging module - so that it only can log channels, where logging was enabled, all other functions are disabled and I am still working on recovery - but it /should/ be back fully operational today. On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 10:59 AM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I got 2 news, one good

Re: [Wikitech-l] [IRC - bot] wm-bot outage

2013-05-13 Thread Petr Bena
wm-bot is back as it used to be. Should there be any problem with anything - poke me on irc, nick petan On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 4:16 PM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: ok so after almost 2 days of recovering I am getting somewhere... so here is a list of things that were lost and I am

[Wikitech-l] [IRC - bot] wm-bot outage

2013-05-12 Thread Petr Bena
Hi, I got 2 news, one good and one bad Good one is that since today anybody can freely call me idiot as long you want. The bad one is that I /accidentally/ rm -r'ed system folder of wm-bot. That doesn't mean logs are gone, they were in data folder which is unaffected (and backed up every day).

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bugzilla for Extensions

2013-05-08 Thread Petr Bena
Link me to bug and I will create it right now! On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 9:27 AM, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 3:09 AM, K. Peachey p858sn...@gmail.com wrote: File a bug under Wikimedia/Bugzilla for it. Only pre-req is that you are heavily involved in the dev of

[Wikitech-l] Git for idiots

2013-05-08 Thread Petr Bena
Hi, Long time ago when I started learning with git I decided to create a simple guide (basically I was just taking some notes of what is needed). I never thought that it could be useful to anyone so I never announced it anywhere. However I got some feedback to it, so I decided to inform you too.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Git for idiots

2013-05-08 Thread Petr Bena
...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 12:34 PM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Long time ago when I started learning with git I decided to create a simple guide (basically I was just taking some notes of what is needed). I never thought that it could be useful to anyone so I never

Re: [Wikitech-l] Git for idiots

2013-05-08 Thread Petr Bena
, 2013 at 8:34 PM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Long time ago when I started learning with git I decided to create a simple guide (basically I was just taking some notes of what is needed). I never thought that it could be useful to anyone so I never announced it anywhere. However I

Re: [Wikitech-l] Git for idiots

2013-05-08 Thread Petr Bena
issue again BUT I have no idea why it works. I just know it works and I don't know why. These things should be explained by expert, not me. But every notes of beginner in git or questions would greatly contribute to improve the documents On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 9:02 PM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com

Re: [Wikitech-l] Countdown to SSL for all sessions?

2013-04-30 Thread Petr Bena
SSL is requiring more CPU, both on server and client and disable all kinds of cache (such as squid or varnish), and some browsers may have problems with it OR in some countries encryption may be even illegal. Whatever you are going to do, you should let people turn it off. Wikimedia project

Re: [Wikitech-l] Countdown to SSL for all sessions?

2013-04-30 Thread Petr Bena
. On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 7:52 PM, Luis Villa lvi...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 10:27 AM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: SSL is requiring more CPU, Not really. In January this year (2010), Gmail switched to using HTTPS for everything by default. Previously it had been

Re: [Wikitech-l] Countdown to SSL for all sessions?

2013-04-30 Thread Petr Bena
mediawiki user account). It took me like 20 minutes to implement it and that was really horrid :D Think of all these poor programmers, who wrote their wikimedia bot in assembler or brainfuck... try to implement ssl in that first :P On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 8:02 PM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote

Re: [Wikitech-l] Labs Shell Access Requests, 39 pending

2013-04-17 Thread Petr Bena
I implemented new function to our bot, now it notifies the #wikimedia-labs channel everytime there are people who are waiting, so hopefully it won't happen in future ;) you can always type @requests in #wikimedia-labs to get a list of users waiting for a shell access On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 5:51

Re: [Wikitech-l] whatcanidoforwikipedia.org

2013-04-07 Thread Petr Bena
C# - huggle, wm-bot On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: Perl (EasyTimeline) C++ (Parsoid) Prolog, Puppet Translation (translatewiki.net) And of course, there's that obvious thing that a lot of people don't realize - editing articles and

Re: [Wikitech-l] whatcanidoforwikipedia.org

2013-04-07 Thread Petr Bena
You should have call it whatcanidoforwikimedia because this is too wikipedia specific - that's an encyclopedia, people who want to contribute to encyclopedia usually aren't programmers, except for weirdos like me On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 12:54 PM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: C# - huggle

Re: [Wikitech-l] whatcanidoforwikipedia.org

2013-04-07 Thread Petr Bena
fork it. that will be faster and prevent doing the same work On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 1:02 PM, Yuvi Panda yuvipa...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 4:27 PM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: You should have call it whatcanidoforwikimedia because this is too wikipedia specific - that's

Re: [Wikitech-l] whatcanidoforwikipedia.org

2013-04-07 Thread Petr Bena
I don't like idea that it's on a wiki page. That way some people can contribute (everyone is controversial term when it comes to wiki editing, let's say everyone who isn't blocked, not matching some range blocks, not using a tor or not using an open proxy and many others...) The reason why I

Re: [Wikitech-l] whatcanidoforwikipedia.org

2013-04-07 Thread Petr Bena
don't care as long as you keep it updated with the content of wiki page :) On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 5:54 PM, Yuvi Panda yuvipa...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 9:21 PM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: The reason why I don't like idea of having this on a wiki page

Re: [Wikitech-l] A new project - Wikicards

2013-04-07 Thread Petr Bena
On first sight I was like WTF is he proposing. Then I read your proposal and it sounds very nice. I hope you will be able to make it happen. On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 4:58 PM, Gaurav Chawla grvi...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I am Gaurav Chawla, an undergraduate student at IIT Roorkee, India. I am

Re: [Wikitech-l] A new project - Wikicards

2013-04-07 Thread Petr Bena
content together with article so that you would ensure it's synced On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 6:05 PM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: On first sight I was like WTF is he proposing. Then I read your proposal and it sounds very nice. I hope you will be able to make it happen. On Sun, Apr 7, 2013

Re: [Wikitech-l] whatcanidoforwikipedia.org

2013-04-07 Thread Petr Bena
On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 6:17 PM, Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org wrote: Thank you Yuvi for putting efforts in new contributor outreach! Let me plug in the thoughts and discussions we have got in a similar direction so far. Back in January Ross (CCed) had the same idea and we started discussing

Re: [Wikitech-l] RFC: Alternative domains for Commons

2013-03-28 Thread Petr Bena
What about inserting another domain just to prevent confusion and to keep current redirects, which would ONLY allow api, such as commons.api.wikipedia.org the *.api.project would just be some kind of universal api gateway for all domains On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 10:07 PM, Juliusz Gonera

Re: [Wikitech-l] RFC: Alternative domains for Commons

2013-03-28 Thread Petr Bena
with DNS On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 8:41 AM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: What about inserting another domain just to prevent confusion and to keep current redirects, which would ONLY allow api, such as commons.api.wikipedia.org the *.api.project would just be some kind of universal api gateway

Re: [Wikitech-l] RFC: Alternative domains for Commons

2013-03-28 Thread Petr Bena
to pervent confusion? you are just sticking a extra .api in the address. On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 5:41 PM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: What about inserting another domain just to prevent confusion and to keep current redirects, which would ONLY allow api, such as commons.api.wikipedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] Live recent changes feed

2013-03-10 Thread Petr Bena
I appreciate someone does something, but this should have been more discussed. I would like to highlight that our goal should NOT be to do this a way that is most simple for developers of mediawiki to implement and most simple for devops to maintain and setup. Our goal should be to make this feed

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Labs-l] Wikimedia Hackathon Amsterdam 2013: Registration opened

2013-03-08 Thread Petr Bena
I have one question :) why the registration form is asking me which year and month I will depart? Are you afraid some attendees are planning to stay for several years? :D On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 6:54 PM, Maarten Dammers maar...@mdammers.nl wrote: Hi everyone, Wikimedia Nederland invites all

[Wikitech-l] Editing wikipedia using google, openID or facebook

2013-03-07 Thread Petr Bena
Hi, we discussed OAuth many times... but - what's the current status? Do we have working extensions which support using OpenID in order to login to mediawiki, or OAuth? So that you can login using your google account or such? I believe that WMF is working on this, so can we have some update? I

Re: [Wikitech-l] Editing wikipedia using google, openID or facebook

2013-03-07 Thread Petr Bena
I just discovered this: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:OpenID why we don't have it on production? :) On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 8:30 PM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, we discussed OAuth many times... but - what's the current status? Do we have working extensions which support

Re: [Wikitech-l] Editing wikipedia using google, openID or facebook

2013-03-07 Thread Petr Bena
ah ok I was confused by it being flagged stable On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 8:35 PM, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 2:32 PM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: I just discovered this: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:OpenID why we don't have

Re: [Wikitech-l] Extension:OpenID 3.00 - Security Release

2013-03-07 Thread Petr Bena
This is indeed a problem but given that rename permissions are granted by default to bureaucrats who are most trusted users, and on small wikis typically sysadmins with shell access, this shouldn't be very dangerous. Sysadmin with shell access will be able to steal your identity anyway. It's a

Re: [Wikitech-l] Pictures from a developer's life

2013-03-04 Thread Petr Bena
LOL On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 12:17 PM, K. Peachey p858sn...@gmail.com wrote: The original tumblr blog where they appear to be from (with more) http://devopsreactions.tumblr.com/ ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org

[Wikitech-l] LABS: removing some instances on bots project to save resources

2013-03-03 Thread Petr Bena
Because resources are expensive, we decided to make few huge instances on bots project rather than ton of small as we have now. So in upcoming weeks it would be cool to migrate all db's from sql1 sql2 and sql3 to bsql01 which has 16gb ram and 160gb storage you might want to move your bots from

[Wikitech-l] switching to something better than irc.wikimedia.org

2013-03-01 Thread Petr Bena
Hi, I think that irc feed of recent changes is working great, but there is still a lot of space for improvement. As Ryan Lane suggested once, we could probably use system of queues instead of irc which would be even more advanced. My suggestion is to create some kind of feed that would be in

Re: [Wikitech-l] switching to something better than irc.wikimedia.org

2013-03-01 Thread Petr Bena
require implementing a daemon in the form of a maintenance script that handle the job. *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2015 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 3:55 AM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote

Re: [Wikitech-l] switching to something better than irc.wikimedia.org

2013-03-01 Thread Petr Bena
I see that the RFC is considering multiple formats, why not support all of them? We could make the client request the format they like, either XML or JSON, that would be a matter of dispatcher how it produce the output data. On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Daniel Friesen

Re: [Wikitech-l] switching to something better than irc.wikimedia.org

2013-03-01 Thread Petr Bena
instead, or vice versa. That's the whole point of a standardised format. --HM On 1 March 2013 13:48, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: I see that the RFC is considering multiple formats, why not support all of them? We could make the client request the format they like, either XML or JSON

Re: [Wikitech-l] switching to something better than irc.wikimedia.org

2013-03-01 Thread Petr Bena
OK Inserted this to hackaton topics as well... On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote: The RFC doesn't seem to have gotten much interest (only a burst of edits from Krinkle in August and then it died). But interesting nonetheless. The one thing I do know is

Re: [Wikitech-l] switching to something better than irc.wikimedia.org

2013-03-01 Thread Petr Bena
format and send them to client. Sounds easy ;) On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 3:10 PM, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 9:04 AM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: The problem is that while XML is widely accepted standard supported on all platforms and languages, JSON

Re: [Wikitech-l] switching to something better than irc.wikimedia.org

2013-03-01 Thread Petr Bena
hard. And what's the problem with multithreading huh? :) BTW I don't really think there is a need for multithreading at all, but even if there was, it shouldn't be so hard. On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 3:47 PM, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 9:16 AM, Petr Bena benap

Re: [Wikitech-l] switching to something better than irc.wikimedia.org

2013-03-01 Thread Petr Bena
Closely, but seems a bit overcomplicated to me. What I proposed is as simple as you could just use telnet to retrieve the last changes. In rabbitMQ for example you need to use 3rd libraries for client so that you can connect to server and obtain some data... But I don't have a problem with using

Re: [Wikitech-l] switching to something better than irc.wikimedia.org

2013-03-01 Thread Petr Bena
to limit the growth of subscribers as we scale. On Friday, March 1, 2013, Petr Bena wrote: I still don't see it as too much complex. Matter of month(s) for volunteers with limited time. However I quite don't see what is so complicated on last 2 points. Given the frequency of updates it's most

[Wikitech-l] Messages from badoo system

2013-02-28 Thread Petr Bena
Hi, I apologize but it seems that badoo for some silly reason, scanned my e-mail account and spammed all contacts I have there with some kind of invitation or whatever. I have no idea why it happened, but I will try to investigate it. Please discard or ignore that message. Thank you

Re: [Wikitech-l] Purpose of #wikimedia-dev

2013-02-28 Thread Petr Bena
it's blocked in my office as well, there are many ways to get through the firewall... most simple is just to install a bouncer or use irssi in a terminal of remote server if port 22 is open... On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 5:40 AM, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 5:53

Re: [Wikitech-l] Purpose of #wikimedia-dev

2013-02-28 Thread Petr Bena
Of course it is. Amazing things happen on irc. And what happens in your office? huh? On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 6:59 PM, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 9:48 AM, Brion Vibber br...@pobox.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 6:20 AM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote

[Wikitech-l] Purpose of #wikimedia-dev

2013-02-27 Thread Petr Bena
Hi, as Gry in #wikipedia recently mentioned, there is no IRC channel for general wikimedia developer purposes - project wide and language wide. There are subchannels for certain projects, but no general channel for wikimedia devs of all kinds from all projects. I suppose we could use

Re: [Wikitech-l] Purpose of #wikimedia-dev

2013-02-27 Thread Petr Bena
Did you even read my e-mail? I was talking about converting current -dev to general developer channel, not about creating another channel On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Brian Wolff bawo...@gmail.com wrote: On 2013-02-27 8:30 AM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, as Gry in #wikipedia

Re: [Wikitech-l] Purpose of #wikimedia-dev

2013-02-27 Thread Petr Bena
www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 9:05 AM, Brian Wolff bawo...@gmail.com wrote: On 2013-02-27 8:30 AM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, as Gry in #wikipedia recently mentioned, there is no IRC channel for general wikimedia developer purposes

Re: [Wikitech-l] Nagios is dead, long live icinga!

2013-02-27 Thread Petr Bena
In addition to this I migrated labs nagios to icinga as well, few minutes ago - http://nagios.wmflabs.org/icinga/ On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 4:56 PM, Leslie Carr lc...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 8:35 PM, Jeremy Baron jer...@tuxmachine.com wrote: On Feb 26, 2013 11:25 PM, Matthew

Re: [Wikitech-l] Purpose of #wikimedia-dev

2013-02-27 Thread Petr Bena
... that's what gry meant On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 11:27 PM, Daniel Friesen dan...@nadir-seen-fire.com wrote: On Wed, 27 Feb 2013 08:04:41 -0800, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 8:00 AM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Petr Bena wrote: Did you even read my e-mail? I

[Wikitech-l] cleaning database of spam

2013-02-26 Thread Petr Bena
Hi, this is more related to mediawiki rather than wikimedia, but this list is being watched a bit more I guess. Is there any extension that allows permanent removal of deleted pages (or eventually selected deleted pages) from database and removal of blocked users from database? Imagine you have

Re: [Wikitech-l] cleaning database of spam

2013-02-26 Thread Petr Bena
but it will stop incrementing the datafile On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Platonides platoni...@gmail.com wrote: On 26/02/13 11:57, Petr Bena wrote: Hi, this is more related to mediawiki rather than wikimedia, but this list is being watched a bit more I guess. Is there any extension

Re: [Wikitech-l] cleaning database of spam

2013-02-26 Thread Petr Bena
yes that's what I do : On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 4:39 PM, Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com wrote: - Original Message - From: Platonides platoni...@gmail.com What is exact procedure of properly removing page from database so that it doesn't break anything? What needs to be deleted and in

Re: [Wikitech-l] cleaning database of spam

2013-02-26 Thread Petr Bena
You meant innodb_file_per_table On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 5:39 PM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: yes that's what I do : On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 4:39 PM, Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com wrote: - Original Message - From: Platonides platoni...@gmail.com What is exact procedure

Re: [Wikitech-l] Blame maps aka authorship detection

2013-02-26 Thread Petr Bena
your site doesn't work http://blamemaps.wmflabs.org/mw/index.php/Main_Page - the connection timed out On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 5:52 PM, Bartosz Dziewoński matma@gmail.com wrote: I have briefly toyed with something similar. Unlike yours, it has a (very simple and rudimentary) interface, but

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Labs-l] Merging wikitech and labsconsole on Thursday at 1 PM PDT

2013-02-26 Thread Petr Bena
the labsconsole will remain operational? or it will redirect? On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 11:22 PM, Greg Grossmeier g...@wikimedia.org wrote: quote name=Ryan Lane date=2013-02-26 time=14:08:59 -0800 If you believe there's a time conflict with this migration let me know and I can reschedule it.

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] Merging wikitech and labsconsole on Thursday at 1 PM PDT

2013-02-26 Thread Petr Bena
I don't really see problems with view - wiki but problem might be to redirect labsconsole to wikitech, as there are some bots using labsconsole api now (these will possibly break) but not a big deal, I would rather be ready for that On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 11:43 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com

Re: [Wikitech-l] Better non-MySQL db support

2013-02-25 Thread Petr Bena
I would be happy to install some mediawiki on oracle db, but I have no oracle db on any of my personal servers :/ The main problem of oracle is that it's not very much free - thus it's not packaged by most of linux vendors and it might be hard to install for many sysadmins. (In order to install

Re: [Wikitech-l] Better non-MySQL db support

2013-02-25 Thread Petr Bena
It would be best to have automated environment for this, either on labs or somewhere else. Problem is that it's not possible to install MSSQL and such on wikimedia labs given the restrictions On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 5:36 PM, Danny Joe Bauch dj.ba...@gmail.com wrote: No. The last version I got

[Wikitech-l] Maria DB

2013-02-13 Thread Petr Bena
Hi, I have installed Maria DB to all my servers, including production servers few weeks ago, and I found it quite stable and I like it (even the command line tool for working with sql is far better than the one included in mysql pack) It's supported on all latest ubuntu versions from 10.04 UP

Re: [Wikitech-l] Maria DB

2013-02-13 Thread Petr Bena
Okay - so what is outcome? Should we migrate beta cluster? Are we going to use it in production? On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 8:05 AM, bawolff bawolff...@gmail.com wrote: Umm there was a thread several months ago about how it

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Labs-l] Maria DB

2013-02-13 Thread Petr Bena
on wikitech-l. Best, Asher On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 5:19 AM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: Okay - so what is outcome? Should we migrate beta cluster? Are we going to use it in production? On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 13

Re: [Wikitech-l] Developer Hub update

2013-02-10 Thread Petr Bena
this is not a documentation, this is a hub for people who are interested to participate on development of any wikimedia related software project, such as huggle, wm-bot, AWB and so On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 12:11 AM, Ryan Lane rlan...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Petr Bena

Re: [Wikitech-l] Developer Hub update

2013-02-08 Thread Petr Bena
Are you going to reference software that has nothing to do with mediawiki on mediawiki.org as well? if not, then keep the hub we have on meta... On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 7:54 PM, Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hi, in the past we have been discussing the need to update

Re: [Wikitech-l] Documentation talk, the second

2013-02-07 Thread Petr Bena
start importing stuff or we create a mess On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 10:55 PM, Antoine Musso hashar+...@free.fr wrote: Le 06/02/13 20:39, Petr Bena a écrit : Hi, this is a second time I am opening this - last time we decided to merge wikitech and labsconsole to make a documentation base

Re: [Wikitech-l] Documentation talk, the second

2013-02-07 Thread Petr Bena
...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 2:29 AM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: Everyone knows your phone is more powerful than half of production cluster, but now back to the business We should make a structure for this new documentation base we are going to create, I think

Re: [Wikitech-l] Merge Vector extension into core

2013-02-06 Thread Petr Bena
don't merge anything into core pls. rip the stuff out of core and make extensions from them, and finally, please make core a lightweight and faster On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 8:34 AM, Matma Rex matma@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 06 Feb 2013 04:31:13 +0100, Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org

[Wikitech-l] [IRC] new feature

2013-02-05 Thread Petr Bena
Hi, just wanted to inform you about new feature some of you might find useful. In case you are looking for someone and you want to be notified when they become online, you can use wm-bot for that (though it's in some wikimedia channels only, but all general dev channels are already being occupied

[Wikitech-l] Huggle is now in git

2013-01-18 Thread Petr Bena
Hi, I would like to remind even here that we have moved the source code to github this week. In case anyone is interesting in improving huggle or joining the project, you are welcome to do so: https://github.com/benapetr/huggle Please note that branch csharp is the branch containing latest

Re: [Wikitech-l] Huggle is now in git

2013-01-18 Thread Petr Bena
* in case anyone is interested in * common mistake done by me. One day I will hopefully master english :) On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 4:48 PM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I would like to remind even here that we have moved the source code to github this week. In case anyone

Re: [Wikitech-l] Huggle is now in git

2013-01-18 Thread Petr Bena
Update https://github.com/huggle/huggle this is a new url On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 5:13 PM, Bawolff Bawolff bawo...@gmail.com wrote: English is a useless language anyhow. There's not even a compilier for it! -bawolff On 2013-01-18 11:49 AM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: * in case

Re: [Wikitech-l] Google Summer of Code 2013

2013-01-17 Thread Petr Bena
hi, Can you explain the roles of mentors and admins? Also what is requirement for participants? I suppose it's for students? On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 8:32 PM, Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org wrote: Surprised? Me too! Please read / watch / discuss

Re: [Wikitech-l] How to contribute to sysadmin / devops

2013-01-07 Thread Petr Bena
From my point of view, this is something what will be possible in future. I thought that once we finish working on beta cluster, all deployment will be done there, and then once it is found working, it's merged with production. Now it works the other way - changes are done in production, and then

Re: [Wikitech-l] monitoring / control system for bots

2013-01-05 Thread Petr Bena
We already have that http://nagios.wmflabs.org/nagios3/ On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 3:48 PM, Daniel Schwen li...@schwen.de wrote: What we rather need is monitoring for the instances. My bots have not been the problem, so far the source for unreliable bot operation has been the underlying

Re: [Wikitech-l] monitoring / control system for bots

2013-01-02 Thread Petr Bena
This is not about bot status (+bot) but about its system status (UP / DOWN etc) On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Lars Aronsson l...@aronsson.se wrote: On 01/02/2013 03:29 AM, Matthew Flaschen wrote: He may have misspoke on the we part. However, for wikis with bot approval processes (e.g.

[Wikitech-l] monitoring / control system for bots

2012-12-27 Thread Petr Bena
Hi, Someone once suggested we create a control panel for bots. I think the first step would be to create a page where we could see overview of all bots we are running on projects. If we create some protocol for querying bot status we could create some central monitoring server which would either:

Re: [Wikitech-l] monitoring / control system for bots

2012-12-27 Thread Petr Bena
It would be first step to solve this: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34606 + it would make it easier for bot operators to keep track of status of their services as well for community to find out why certain service is no longer available. For example if archiving bot crashes, the

Re: [Wikitech-l] monitoring / control system for bots

2012-12-27 Thread Petr Bena
, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: It would be first step to solve this: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34606 + it would make it easier for bot operators to keep track of status of their services as well for community to find out why certain service is no longer available

Re: [Wikitech-l] monitoring / control system for bots

2012-12-27 Thread Petr Bena
to use it in case it would work and people would like it. On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 11:49 AM, Bináris wikipo...@gmail.com wrote: I see. Sorry for having misspelled your name. 2012/12/27 Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com In addition, we would have a reliable list of bots running on each wiki, far

Re: [Wikitech-l] monitoring / control system for bots

2012-12-27 Thread Petr Bena
It would be kind of same as nagios, just for bots, not servers On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 11:57 AM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: For beginning it's definitely not needed to be compulsory. Whether the communities will want to have this function reliable in future if it became a standard

Re: [Wikitech-l] Deploying to test2 before other wikis

2012-12-18 Thread Petr Bena
It would be cool if part of that policy was testing on beta cluster which is also supposed to be identicaly configured as production and is even closer to production because the MediaWiki space is cloned from production and on beta cluster we have replicated each production wiki with its custom

[Wikitech-l] [IRC] wm-bot maintenance

2012-11-08 Thread Petr Bena
Hi folks, I know some of you are tired of these wm-bot messages :) but I didn't send one regarding today's maintenance and now I feel sorry for that. I did a huge maintenance today replacing the old monolithic core with new lightweight core with features bundled as dynamic modules (which makes

Re: [Wikitech-l] Contributing as Wikimedia employees

2012-11-03 Thread Petr Bena
I think there is no need to make any walls between community and wmf. Main difference between volunteers and wmf employees is that they are paid for they work. I see no reason why someone should highlight that fact by using wmf e-mail or (WMF) in SUL (it appears as showing off to me more than

Re: [Wikitech-l] What do you want to learn?

2012-10-30 Thread Petr Bena
I want to learn with puppet, but there is no testing repository to use. Every change needs to be approved by ops and that usually takes several weeks :/ or it used to. On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 2:16 AM, Sumana Harihareswara suma...@wikimedia.org wrote: TL;DR summary: reply to tell me what you want

Re: [Wikitech-l] Welcome, Brad Jorsch!

2012-10-29 Thread Petr Bena
Congrats Anomie, I just want to mention that as a founder of beta cluster I can also offer some help, though I didn't do so much as Antoinne there :) Petr P.S. we talked about labs on hackaton, if you remember On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 7:17 PM, Rob Lanphier ro...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hi

Re: [Wikitech-l] customizable IRC feed for bugzilla

2012-10-15 Thread Petr Bena
), but there have been no commits there since June - is the code being maintained somewhere else now? Thanks! Arthur On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 7:04 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Petr Bena wrote: That means anyone should be able to create a custom irc feed for bugzilla and use

Re: [Wikitech-l] customizable IRC feed for bugzilla

2012-10-15 Thread Petr Bena
Ok I added both, but given that both aren't very active you probably won't see much activity from it :) On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 9:28 AM, Tomasz Finc tf...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 11:30 PM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: I can put it to #wikimedia-mobile, or you can do

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