[Wikitech-l] Re: Onboarding Process At Wikimedia

2024-04-10 Thread Andre Klapper
Hi and welcome Newton!

On Tue, 2024-04-09 at 16:50 +0300, Newton Kamau wrote:
> I have over 5 years of professional experience as a software
> developer, I would like to join this awesome team and make
> meaningful contributions . I have made progress as far as following
> the  participate instructions goes, I have the code setup locally and
> would love some help in using phabricator and making and pushing
> changes to the codebase. 
> 
> Is there someone who has experience and is willing to mentor me into
> doing this? I would highly appreciate and cannot wait to be part of
> the team. 

I'd recommend taking a look at https://developer.wikimedia.org/ which
for example links to the Gerrit tutorial (code review tool).

The Phabricator help page includes tutorial videos:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/Help

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[Wikitech-l] Re: Edit-a-thon scheduled on 2024-04-06

2024-03-26 Thread Andre Klapper
Hi, please move this conversation to the ticket in Phabricator as it's
not very relevant to the hundreds of subscribers on this list.

Thanks for your understanding!
andre

On Tue, 2024-03-26 at 08:28 -0300, Esteban Zarate wrote:
> The information was added yesterday by Maju Planas, staff member of
> WMAR managing the event, please don't forget this task, Regards!!

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[Wikitech-l] Re: API issue

2024-01-09 Thread Andre Klapper
On Wed, 2024-01-10 at 02:29 +, ovskmendov--- via Wikitech-l wrote:
> Whenever I access the API, I get "Wikimedia Error: Our servers are
> currently under maintenance or experiencing a technical problem."

Access how exactly?
Which of the APIs (Action API, REST API, etc)?
Via which API calls?
On which Wikimedia server(s)?
What's the full and complete error code?

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[Wikitech-l] Re: AI phabricator profile

2024-01-09 Thread Andre Klapper
On Tue, 2024-01-09 at 16:12 +0100, Martin Domdey wrote:
> how is it possible, that an AI knows about my Phabricator real name
> user profile?

Feel free to open a private window in your favorite web browser and go
to https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/p/aklapper/ (or your profile) and
check which information is displayed to all humans and non-humans.

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[Wikitech-l] Some Phabricator and Gerrit 2023 statistics

2024-01-02 Thread Andre Klapper
Hi everyone,

Sharing some Phabricator and Gerrit statistics from the past Gregorian
calendar year 2023. 

Big thanks to all Wikimedia technical contributors!

=== Phabricator 2023 ===

* 28095 tasks got created.
* 26988 tasks got closed.
* 3721 people were active in Phabricator.
* 2176 people created tasks.
* 868 people closed tasks.
* The 20 accounts who created the most tasks:
  phaultfinder  869
  403
  Jdlrobson 349
  Reedy 245
  RobH  244
  awight237
  Maintenance_bot   219
  dcaro 212
  Jdforrester-WMF   210
  Umherirrender 206
  kai.nissen202
  kostajh   199
  komla 195
  ppelberg  192
  rook  190
  matmarex  188
  MoritzMuehlenhoff 188
  taavi 179
  Dreamy_Jazz   177
  Aklapper  177
* The 20 accounts who closed the most tasks:
  Aklapper  1045
  taavi 998
  matmarex  708
  JArguello-WMF 505
  Jdlrobson 494
  XenoRyet  454
  Etonkovidova  447
  Jdforrester-WMF   425
  Umherirrender 405
  Pppery374
  Gehel 275
  rook  272
  Eileenmcnaughton  264
  kai.nissen264
  Peachey88 258
  aborrero  250
  Ladsgroup 249
  Reedy 247
  Yaron_Koren   243
  Jclark-ctr239

=== Gerrit 2023 ===

* 52815 changesets got created. [1]
* 102225 code reviews took place. [2]
* 577 people created patches. [3]
* The 20 accounts who submitted the most changesets: [4]
  Umherirrender 2479
  James Forrester   2057
  Robert Vogel  1429
  John Bond 1232
  Moritz Muehlenhoff1176
  Taavi Väänänen1001
  Hslater   942
  Bartosz Dziewoński877
  Marostegui876
  Sam Reed  834
  Thiemo Mättig 830
  Jon Robson795
  Timo Tijhof   772
  Daniel Vogel  767
  Ed Sanders715
  Daimona Eaytoy708
  Luca Toscano  694
  Dejan Savuljesku  680
  Eileen McNaughton 663
  Amir Sarabadani   626
* The 20 accounts who reviewed the most patchsets: [5]
  John Bond 4622
  Robert Vogel  3823
  Moritz Muehlenhoff3593
  James Forrester   3556
  DannyS712 2366
  Nikerabbit2231
  Luca Toscano  2100
  Daniel Vogel  2094
  Marostegui2069
  Umherirrender 1990
  Filippo Giunchedi 1862
  Taavi Väänänen1657
  Daniel Zahn   1596
  Bartosz Dziewoński1589
  Abijeet Patro 1559
  Jon Robson1552
  Timo Tijhof   1533
  Andrew Bogott 1504
  Ben Tullis1451
  Janis Meybohm 1417

If you find a bug in these numbers, please see
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Community_metrics

Cheers,
andre

[1] See "Gerrit  Changesets" on "Gerrit  Overview": 
https://wikimedia.biterg.io/goto/75c0ad9294bff8a7fe4a0c2a1c7cee62
[2] See "Total Changesets and Approvals  Approvals" on "Gerrit  Approvals": 
https://wikimedia.biterg.io/goto/d247957d88fd22293adc8e53901aa375
[3] See "Gerrit  Changeset Submitters" on "Gerrit  Overview": 
https://wikimedia.biterg.io/goto/75c0ad9294bff8a7fe4a0c2a1c7cee62
[4] See "Submitters" on "Gerrit  Overview": 
https://wikimedia.biterg.io/goto/75c0ad9294bff8a7fe4a0c2a1c7cee62
[5] See "Approvals by Reviewer" on "Gerrit  Approvals": 
https://wikimedia.biterg.io/goto/d247957d88fd22293adc8e53901aa375

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[Wikitech-l] Re: Contributing to Wikimedia

2023-12-11 Thread Andre Klapper
Hi and welcome,

On Tue, 2023-12-12 at 07:09 +, Aryann Dwivedi wrote:
> 
> Dear Sir/Madam,
> 
> I am Aryann Dwivedi, currently enrolled as an engineering student at
> NIT Nagpur. This marks my initial venture into the realm of open
> source contribution. Proficient in languages such as javascript,
> typescript, node,php, I have successfully executed several projects.
> Now, I am eager to channel my skills and contribute to your
> community.
> 
>  
> 
> In pursuit of this goal, I want to seek guidance and mentorship from
> an experienced individual who possesses expertise in the mentioned
> domains. I am enthusiastic about taking on a small issue or feature
> to work on under your mentorship.

Thanks for your interest! Please see https://developer.wikimedia.org/

Thanks,
andre

PS: Also see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Inclusive_language
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[Wikitech-l] Re: partial translation after update

2023-10-31 Thread Andre Klapper
On Tue, 2023-10-31 at 22:14 +0100, Peter Radisson wrote:
> After updates,

Please see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Communication
The topic is out of scope for the wikitech-l@ list.

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[Wikitech-l] Re: stopped working after upgrade

2023-10-31 Thread Andre Klapper
This is not about a Wikimedia wiki but a 3rd party installation so this
thread should be continued on the mediawiki-l@ mailing list instead.

On Tue, 2023-10-31 at 21:54 +0100, Peter Radisson wrote:
> 1. Problem:
> 
> 
> 
> Stopped working, instead code is shown. Other stuff
> like tables seems to work fine.
> 
> what went wrong ?

Is the Cite extension installed and is its right branch (REL1_40 for
MediaWiki 1.40) installed? The "Special:Version" page should tell you.

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[Wikitech-l] Re: GSoC Contribution 2024

2023-07-05 Thread Andre Klapper
Hi and welcome!

On Wed, 2023-07-05 at 12:57 +0530, Sehaj Singla wrote:
> Dear Sir/ Ma’am,
> I am Sehaj, a CSE student from Chandigarh University. I just entered
> my second year at university. I wish to make contributions and work
> with your organisation in 2024 for GSoC. I know Javascript, React,
> HTML, CSS, SQL, MongoDB. Kindly guide me further. 
> Thank you for your time.

Please see https://developer.wikimedia.org which also links to
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Outreach_programs

Thanks,
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[Wikitech-l] Re: gotointerwiki-external

2023-06-01 Thread Andre Klapper
Hi,

On Thu, 2023-06-01 at 14:04 +0200, Bináris wrote:
> Sorry for disturbing, but I did not find the answer in the docs.
> 
> I installed a MW  1.39.3 with an automated tool. Then I inserted a
> row into the interwiki table to make 'hu:' interwiki to recognize
> huwiki.
> 
> Now I write hu:anything into the search box, and get a message that I
> want to leave my wiki. Of course, I know, that's why I did it.
> What I could dig from translatewiki that the name of this message is
> 'gotointerwiki-external'.
> How could I switch this feature off and make my wiki just to go to
> the desired link?

https://codesearch.wmcloud.org/core/?q=gotointerwiki-external==.*json%24=
points to
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/g/mediawiki/core/+/7833f3a238cee8b758c9166b94fb55e7d3a87c85/includes/specials/SpecialGoToInterwiki.php
for code to potentially change locally, and
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T122209 for additional context.
It seems there is no setting for this.

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[Wikitech-l] Re: Proposal: namespace Archived for mediawiki.org

2023-05-31 Thread Andre Klapper
Thanks for bringing this up! Some comments below.

On Wed, 2023-05-31 at 12:11 +0200, Derk-Jan Hartman wrote:
> I'm proposing we introduce a new namespace on mediawiki.org.
> 
> The namespace name will be Archived (numerical id to be determined)
> and its purpose will be to hold pages like "Subversion" that have the
> template "historical" applied to it. These pages would move info that
> namespace and you would get Archived:Subversion,
> Archived:Manual:Small padlock icon, Archived:Help:Extension:WebFonts
> etc.
> 
> This will give us a place outside of the main content namespaces to
> keep information about configurations, manuals, extensions and skins
> that we want to keep, but where it will no longer pollute our set of
> currently relevant information. The namespace will not be part of
> $wgContentNamespaces and $wgNamespacesToBeSearchedDefault namespaces.
> Hopefully this will allow for a more searchable and better
> functioning mediawiki.org when it comes to documentation for new
> users, while preserving history in the spirit of wikis.
> 
> I've discussed this with various people at various points in time who
> all seemed to think this was a good idea, but we've never really had
> an open discussion about it that could result into action.

It is sometimes hard for me to find relevant information. Thus a while
ago I asked for deboosting search results on mediawiki.org that include
"Template:Historical": https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T274082

Still I'd love to have a way to exclude such pages by default.
As time passes by the percentage of obsolete pages will increase. Thus
relevant information become harder to find. I consider this a problem.

FYI, wikitech.wikimedia.org does have an "Obsolete" namespace (id 110;
talk id: 111). Though I do not know how it came to existence and how
regularly it is used (as moving pages requires special permissions).

IMHO a related issue is that authors and editors need to be more aware
of time. I've come across many pages stating "currently" or "next
July". Without going to the page history, readers cannot realize that
these strings were added years ago and that the page *is* outdated.

It may also make sense to show more visibly when a wiki page was last
edited and/or that there is a bigger chance that it might be outdated.
See https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T247987 for a vague idea.

Cheers,
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[Wikitech-l] Re: big spaces at Commons File pages

2023-05-30 Thread Andre Klapper
On Tue, 2023-05-30 at 19:06 +0200, Martin Domdey wrote:
> there's a big space on Commons file pages. 

See the issue tracker for bug reports:
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T337675

> Have only I this big space? 

You can find out yourself by using a private browser window.

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[Wikitech-l] Re: Phabricator Workboard Help

2023-04-28 Thread Andre Klapper
Hi,

On Fri, 2023-04-28 at 06:53 +0200, Martin Domdey wrote:
> But there's no "All tasks",
> see https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/archive/2/28/20230
> 428045221%21JPG_Test.jpg

There is on the "Workboard" panel below the blue global top panel. See
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/Project_management#Filtering_content_on_a_board

PS: Best place to bring up questions about using Phabricator is
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Phabricator/Help

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[Wikitech-l] Re: Reflecting on my listening tour

2023-04-14 Thread Andre Klapper
On Thu, 2023-04-13 at 20:06 -0700, bawolff wrote:
> > "I think there are lots of promising opportunities to incentivise
> > people to pay off technical debt and make our existing stack more
> > sustainable. Right now there are no incentives for engineers in
> > this regard."
> 
> Interesting. Personally to me, it can sometimes feel like we never
> stop talking about technical debt. While I think paying off technical
> debt is important, at times I feel like we've swung in the opposite
> direction where we are essentially rewriting things for the sake of
> rewriting things.

"Technical debt" spontaneously brings the following items to my little
mind. They should not be about rewriting but rather "maintenance":

 * librsvg for SVG rendering is a five year old version:
   https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T193352 /
   https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T265549
 * Graph extension on old Vega version 2.6.3: see subtasks of
   https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T292341
 * Scribunto extension on old Lua version 5.1 (last 5.1.x release was
   in 2012): https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T178146
 * 3D extension on a five year old three.js library in
   https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T277930#7636129
 * Removing the OpenStackManager extension from wikitech.wm.org:
   https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T161553
 * Removing WVUI from MediaWiki
   core: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T310244
 * Replacing jsduck with JSDoc3 across all Wikimedia code bases:
   https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T138401
 * Undeploy VipsScaler from Wikimedia wikis:
   https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T290759
 * https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151393 (a non-public task)

This is not a complete list. Plus there are also separate "waiting for
someone to make a decision" and "improving communicating & documenting
already-made decisions" categories which would be different lists.

Of course there might be valid reasons not to look into some of this
technical debt (other higher priorities, high risk, complexity, etc).

Cheers,
andre

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[Wikitech-l] Technical Community Newsletter: April 2023 Edition

2023-04-13 Thread Andre Klapper
Hi everyone,

The April 2023 edition of the Technical Community Newsletter is
available:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Technical_Community_Newsletter/2023/April

The newsletter is compiled by the Wikimedia Developer Advocacy Team.
It aims to share highlights, news, and information of interest from and
about the Wikimedia technical community.

The Wikimedia Technical Community is large and diverse - it's hard to
capture everything. We would love to hear your ideas for future
newsletters. Got something you would like to see or something you want
to highlight in the next quarterly newsletter?
Please add your suggestion to the talk page: 
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Technical_Community_Newsletter

If you'd like to keep up with updates and information, subscribe to the
Technical Community Newsletter:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Newsletter:Technical_Community_Newsletter

Thanks,
andre

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[Wikitech-l] Re: [Proposal] Disable setting the "Lowest" Priority value in Phabricator

2023-03-13 Thread Andre Klapper
On Fri, 2023-02-24 at 08:31 -0700, Brian Wolff wrote:
> 
> I feel this is a problem with phabricator being used as both a
> project management tool for teams and as a bug tracker, when those
> are different things. Certainly its reasonable for teams to have bugs
> they dont think is worth fixing and a way for them to ignore said
> bugs, but declining them hinders people who are trying to track what
> the known bugs are resulting in duplicated effort. Not to mention
> external contributors may want to fix these bugs and declining them
> hinders this. I personally think the best solution is to have
> separate work boards for team management vs mediawiki component.

I strongly agree and advertise having both a project/workboard for the
team (violet project tag) AND a codebase project tag (blue project tag)
for the software.
Scope and thus responsibilities of teams change over time.
A ticket may be still valid for a codebase though some team might not
steward or maintain this codebase anymore.

> Generally i find the priority field an endless source of drama. The
> way priority/severity gets conflated is problematic, the way it is
> global instead of per work board is problematic. The way non-devs
> think it is prescriptive instead of descriptive is very problematic.
> Sometimes i wonder if it should be removed entirely, although maybe
> that is too far.

Many years ago, restricting who can set/change the Priority field value
was discussed in https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T819 .

Over the years we have become more restrictive in who can change
certain aspects of tasks or projects in Phab due to vandalism, e.g. by
having Access-control lists (ACL) like the #Trusted-Contributors group
in Phabricator (and a similar concept in Gerrit).

Adding such restrictions often requires code changes in Phabricator
while it seems that WMF does not invest much effort into actively
fixing some of the shortcomings of its infrastructure software.

Thus some folks might instead prefer to use whatever tools folks are
already used to do or tools which presumably serve better folks' needs,
with the side effect of decreasing collaboration and transparency.

Cheers,
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[Wikitech-l] [Proposal] Disable setting the "Lowest" Priority value in Phabricator

2023-02-24 Thread Andre Klapper
Wikimedia Phabricator tasks have a "Priority" dropdown field (which is
not consistently used) with several discrete values, among them
"Lowest". See [1] for the full list of Priority field values.
Since [2], "Low" and "Lowest" priority share the same definition.

I propose to disable setting the "Lowest" Priority value in Phab tasks.

"Lowest priority" can sound demotivating / disrespectful ("there is
nothing that could be even less important"). However, bikeshedding
about changing the name of the value would ignore further observations:

 * About half of the people who are most active in setting initial
   Priority values do not ever set Priority to "Lowest"[3].
 * There is no significant difference between median age of open tasks
   with Low and with Lowest priority[4], thus nothing seems to get
   realistically differentiated here.
 * Personally I also assume Lowest priority is sometimes used instead
   of honestly declining a task (means: "this is not a good idea"[5]).
   But of course that is rather hard to prove.

If you have opinions and/or ideas how to interpret data differently,
please add them to https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T228759 to keep
them in a single place - either as a text comment, or via "Award Token"
to express support or disagreement without adding words.

Thanks,
andre

[1] 
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/Project_management#Priority_levels
[2] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T317533
[3] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T228759#6988320
[4] 
https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org/thread/XJAK2EEGXANOGI7LMQDYEZWS7WJ5JRMF/
[5] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Bug_management/Bug_report_life_cycle

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[Wikitech-l] Re: Can't claim on Phabricator

2023-02-13 Thread Andre Klapper
On Thu, 2023-02-02 at 17:43 +0100, Bináris wrote:
> 
> Jaime Crespo ezt írta (időpont: 2023. febr. 2., Cs, 17:10):
> > to claim or assign a task, you have to go to a particular task,
> > then at the end click on the "Add action..." list, then "Assign /
> > Claim" and write your account name or someone else's (it will
> > autocomplete).
> 
> Oh, that's pretty hidden in hell! As far as I remember, last time I
> was looking for it, it was on the right sidebar. At least claiming. 

Both is possible to assign a task in Phab: Either via "Edit Task" in
the sidebar, or via the "Add Action" dropdown above the comment field.

See also https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/Help

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[Wikitech-l] January 2023 Edition of the Technical Community Newsletter

2023-02-07 Thread Andre Klapper
Hej hej everyone,

The January 2023 edition of the Technical Community Newsletter is
available:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Technical_Community_Newsletter/2023/January

The newsletter is compiled by the Wikimedia Developer Advocacy Team. It
aims to share highlights, news, and information of interest from and
about the Wikimedia technical community.

The Wikimedia Technical Community is large and diverse, and we know we
can't capture everything perfectly. We would love to hear your ideas
for future newsletters. Got something you would like to see or
something you want to highlight in the next quarterly newsletter?
Add your suggestion to the talk page: 
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Technical_Community_Newsletter

If you'd like to keep up with updates and information, subscribe to the
Technical Community Newsletter:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Newsletter:Technical_Community_Newsletter

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[Wikitech-l] Re: Avoid invisible characters in page titles

2023-01-17 Thread Andre Klapper
Hi,

On Tue, 2023-01-17 at 12:03 +0100, Martin Domdey wrote:
> isn't it better to avoid invisible characters in page titles
> while creating the pages? 
> 
> Please look here, there has been problems with invisible characters
> working with it when parsing or page linking those page titles with
> invisible unicode
> characters: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer_Diskussion:Wurgl#L
> iste_der_Biografien/Ci

See also
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28technical%29#UTF-8_ZERO_WIDTH_SPACE_in_page_title

> Instead of this there will never be a problem when invisible
> characters within the page title name will be deleted when
> creating the page.
> 
> What do you think about it and what technical approaches do
> already exist? How are LTR and RTL marks dealt if creating pages with
> them?

See https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/maniphest/query/GDxAs4QdEDTG/#R
for related bugs, and a ticket about improving cleanupTitles.php.

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[Wikitech-l] Re: Unsubscribe from mail list

2023-01-11 Thread Andre Klapper
On Wed, 2023-01-11 at 01:04 +, irvingwash--- via Wikitech-l wrote:
> I think you should reply to me quickly.

Hi, this is a public community mailing list.
Posting to individuals about potential previous communication that may
(or may not) have taken place in private or third-party venues, in this
case by replying to unrelated year-old list threads, is not welcome.

Please take this elsewhere; it does not belong here.

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[Wikitech-l] Some Phabricator and Gerrit 2022 statistics

2023-01-09 Thread Andre Klapper
Hello, hello!

Sharing random numbers from the past Gregorian calendar year 2022.
Big thanks to all Wikimedia technical contributors! <3

=== Phabricator 2022 ===

* 27629 tasks got created.
* 24055 tasks got closed.
* 3636 people were active in Phabricator.
* 2135 people created tasks.
* 831 people closed tasks.
* The 20 people who created the most tasks:
komla  671
Reedy  496
ppelberg   340
Jdlrobson  311
TheresNoTime   278
RobH   243
kostajh236
Jdforrester-WMF236
kai.nissen 209
diegodlh   208
dcaro  208
Umherirrender  206
awight 202
Marostegui 196
ifried 195
MoritzMuehlenhoff  189
matmarex   184
gengh  180
Daimona178
Tgr172
* The 20 people who closed the most tasks:
Aklapper  1028
ppelberg   616
Jdforrester-WMF476
matmarex   428
Etonkovidova   419
Jopparn373
Jdlrobson  370
Krinkle361
Umherirrender  345
ovasileva  333
Reedy  330
taavi  311
Xqt299
Ladsgroup  296
bd808  287
Marostegui 270
Gehel  263
kai.nissen 252
dcaro  221
hashar 220

=== Gerrit 2022 ===

* 52147 changesets got created. [1]
* 98574 code reviews took place. [2]
* 562 people created patches. [3]
* The 20 people who submitted the most changesets: [4]
Umherirrender   2087
Sam Reed1843
Robert Vogel1711
Marostegui  1164
Jforrester  1125
Jbond   1027
Xqt  975
Bartosz Dziewoński   909
Zabe 893
Moritz Muehlenhoff   888
Jon Robson   851
Taavi804
Thiemo Kreuz 801
Ed Sanders   796
Ladsgroup780
Andrew Bogott702
Lucas Werkmeister689
Timo Tijhof  676
Kosta Harlan 644
Mglaser  591
* The 20 people who reviewed the most patchsets: [5]
Robert Vogel4848
Jbond   3841
Marostegui  2684
Moritz Muehlenhoff  2682
Jforrester  2579
Umherirrender   2269
Andrew Bogott   2196
DannyS712   1955
Filippo Giunchedi   1861
Timo Tijhof 1859
Nikerabbit  1784
Daniel Zahn 1692
Abijeet Patro   1582
Jon Robson  1574
Sam Reed1546
Ladsgroup   1518
Luca Toscano1513
Mglaser 1500
Xqt 1475
Bartosz Dziewoński  1459

If you find a bug in these numbers, please see
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Community_metrics

Cheerio,
andre

[1] See "Gerrit  Changesets" on "Gerrit  Overview": 
https://wikimedia.biterg.io/goto/8f0c69f9a6188d843f87afb1d4bd39ee
[2] See "Total Number of Code Reviews  Approvals" on "Gerrit  Approvals": 
https://wikimedia.biterg.io/goto/074b7823a84be62de083a6ebbfa4d39a
[3] See "Gerrit  Changeset Submitters" on "Gerrit  Overview": 
https://wikimedia.biterg.io/goto/8f0c69f9a6188d843f87afb1d4bd39ee
[4] See "Submitters" on "Gerrit  Overview": 
https://wikimedia.biterg.io/goto/8f0c69f9a6188d843f87afb1d4bd39ee
[5] See "Approvals by Reviewer" on "Gerrit  Approvals": 
https://wikimedia.biterg.io/goto/074b7823a84be62de083a6ebbfa4d39a

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[Wikitech-l] Re: Regarding Gsoc participation

2023-01-02 Thread Andre Klapper
Hi and welcome!

On Sun, 2023-01-01 at 15:07 +0530, Rudra Pratap Singh wrote:
> Warm Regards
> I am a 2nd year CSE student at Chandigarh University India and for
> gsoc 2023 i am interested in Wikimedia as an target organization and
> would like to have some guidance from the mentors and would like to
> contribute in organization and learn how I can contribute in the
> organisation and what are rules and regulations.
> Till now i have been working with HTML5 CSS3, javascript react.js,
> python, c ,c++ and worked in the fields like machine learning and
> frontend development and would like to know some related open source
> works under the organisation
> 
> I will be waiting for the kind response from you

Please see https://developer.wikimedia.org/

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[Wikitech-l] Re: Help me for how i can start contribution in wikimedia projects

2023-01-02 Thread Andre Klapper
Hi and welcome!

On Thu, 2022-12-29 at 17:44 +0530, Sumit wrote:
> Hey  Myself sumit. I would like to contribute to the project. can you
> help me getting started? Thank You

Please see https://developer.wikimedia.org/

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[Wikitech-l] Re: Concern person stopping others wiki

2022-10-29 Thread Andre Klapper
Hi,

On Sat, 2022-10-29 at 15:12 +0530, M.SaravanaKumar Malaiyaman wrote:
> This concern person deleting others' wiki.
> 
> Please take necessary action.

This list is for technical discussion of software development aspects.
Please discuss this social topic on Tamil Wikipedia instead.

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[Wikitech-l] Re: Request to post on mailing list.

2022-10-14 Thread Andre Klapper
Hi,

On Fri, 2022-10-14 at 20:31 +0530, Asif Rahaman wrote:
> I recently contacted Wikimedia and subscribe for the mailing list. I
> would like to post on your mailing list.

You just did. :)
https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org/

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[Wikitech-l] Re: How to specify version of MW that Jenkins should run?

2022-09-12 Thread Andre Klapper
On Mon, 2022-09-12 at 12:20 +0200, Sebastian Berlin wrote:
> I tried changing in extension.json to:
>  "requires": {
>  "MediaWiki": "1.35.*"

Wouldn't this be?:
 "MediaWiki": ">= 1.35.0"

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[Wikitech-l] Re: [breaking change] Upgrading to Elasticsarch 7.10 — breaking changes for Cloudelastic, API Feature Usage

2022-07-19 Thread Andre Klapper
On Tue, 2022-07-19 at 11:00 +0100, Cigaryno wrote:
> Is the ApiFeatureUsage extension going to work on newer versions of
> MediaWiki even if it will be undeployed from WMF wikis?

Assumption in short:
"Yes" if someone steps up and volunteers to maintain that code base.
If not, then probably "Not anymore at some unknown point in the future"
as code will bitrot.

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[Wikitech-l] Re: Neuer Baustein "AhG"

2022-07-02 Thread Andre Klapper
Hi Siegfried,

On Thu, 2022-06-30 at 12:41 +0200, Siegfried Schmitt wrote:
> in fact, the template AhG is only one part of the project
> Wikipedia:Ad-hoc-Gruppen.
> In Germany, it is difficult to find project managers for this
> project. Therefore,
> I have created a project WMDE:Ad-hoc-Gruppen and I am still trying
> hard in order
> to find a manager for this project.

Thanks for the additional info. That all sounds like de.wikipedia on-
wiki business and seems off-topic for this mailing list about general
technical development.

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[Wikitech-l] Re: Neuer Baustein "AhG"

2022-06-30 Thread Andre Klapper
On Wed, 2022-06-29 at 18:22 +0200, Siegfried Schmitt wrote:
> Der neue Baustein {{AhG}} soll anzeigen, an welchen Stellen in der
> Wikipedia gerade eine Ad-hoc-Gruppe aktiv ist.

Hi Siegfried,

Templates (Bausteine) are local on-wiki content. Local on-wiki content
is managed independently on each wiki, by each wiki community
themselves. A proposal for introducing such a template on a wiki would
need to be discussed on that wiki instead (I assume in this case it
would be the German language Wikipedia).

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[Wikitech-l] Re: Examples of projects using NLP

2022-06-21 Thread Andre Klapper
Hi Ilario,

On Tue, 2022-06-21 at 13:18 +0200, Ilario Valdelli wrote:
> Do you have examples of projects using NLP in Wikimedia communities.

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Abstract_Wikipedia comes to my mind.

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[Wikitech-l] [Reminder] Your Hackathon feedback is wanted (until May 29th)

2022-05-26 Thread Andre Klapper
Hi, this is a friendly reminder that we would love to hear from you
about your experience at last weekend's Hackathon. 
Please fill in the survey until Sunday, May 29th and help us improve.
See the links below.

Thanks a lot in advance!
andre

 Quoted Message 
From: Haley Lepp
Date: Sun, 22 May 2022 11:13:39 -0700

On behalf of the 2022 Wikimedia Hackathon Committee, we would like to
thank you for coming to the Wikimedia Hackathon! 

Please consider giving us feedback on the Hackathon and your
suggestions for improvement.

There are two ways to give feedback:
1. Fill out the Wikimedia Hackathon Survey
<https://wikimedia.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_cGbCKj4xyP0H3wi>.  For
more information on privacy and data-handling, see the survey privacy
statement 
<https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Hackathon_Post-Event_Survey_Privacy_Statement
>. The survey will remain open until May 29, 2022.
2. If you would like to share feedback but do not wish to take the
Qualtrics survey, you can leave feedback on
the Etherpad <https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Wikimedia_Hackathon_2022_Feedback
>.

Finally, check out
the badges 
<https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Hackathon_2022/How_to#Joining_a_session
> the committee made. You can put them on your userpages to show your
participation.

Thank you again for joining us! It was so much fun to meet everyone and
hack together.
See you at the Wikimania Hackathon in August!

Haley, on behalf of the
2022 Wikimedia Hackathon Team

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[Wikitech-l] Re: Is there still a maximum page size in effect?

2022-02-05 Thread Andre Klapper
On Sat, 2022-02-05 at 18:43 +0200, Strainu wrote:
> I am aware of the various limits in the NewPP report. I'm trying to
> determine if we currently we have some max page size (before or after
> processing). 
> 
> The documentation on mw.org and en.wp is a bit confusing on the
> subject and personal experimentation shows that substituting
> templates allows be to go past the 2MiB page size.

What does "personal experimentation" mean exactly? There might be
exceptions like https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T188852 but generally
speaking, as neither
https://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/InitialiseSettings.php.txt nor
https://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/CommonSettings.php.txt seem to change
the MediaWiki software default setting defined in 
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/source/mediawiki/browse/master/includes/DefaultSettings.php$2673
I'd assume that we're at 2MiB.

See also https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T189108 about requesting an
increase, and https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T181907#3835654
for some more background.

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[Wikitech-l] Re: Facing error in pushing the patch

2022-02-04 Thread Andre Klapper
Hi,

On Sat, 2022-02-05 at 11:57 +0530, Shreyaans Jain wrote:
> Hey everyone I was working on Videocuttool
> issue https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T297992 and now the issue is
> resolved but I am unable to push the patch. I have properly
> set the ssh key on both my system as well as gerrit and also did the
> steps many times but still facing the problem. It will be great if
> anyone can help me in it .

Please follow https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Gerrit/Tutorial

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[Wikitech-l] Re: Facing a Problem in issue #105

2022-02-04 Thread Andre Klapper
Hi,

On Sat, 2022-02-05 at 10:36 +0530, AMEY Gupta wrote:
> Hey I am facing a problem in issue #105  in ( afch-rewrite). I am
> following this approach for (avoiding empty comments) . At first I
> wrote a function to calculate the length of the text area and if the
> text area's length is 0 then I,ll disabled the button . but I am
> getting confused about how to get the button disabled .
> 
>  Screenshot (302)_LI.jpg
> 
>  Screenshot (303)_LI.jpg

Please always provide links and sufficient context.
Most people here do not know what "afch-rewrite" is.

If you have a specific question about
https://github.com/WPAFC/afch-rewrite/issues/105
you probably want to bring it up in that ticket.

See also
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/New_Developers#Some_general_communication_tips

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[Wikitech-l] Re: Facing a Problem in issue #105

2022-02-04 Thread Andre Klapper
On Fri, 2022-02-04 at 20:31 +0530, Ameygupta wrote:
> Hey I am facing a problem in issue #105 (Don.t enter empty comments)
> can anyone help me about it ?

Not without further context, I'm afraid. :) What and where is "issue
#105"? Please provide sufficient context, as this is a mailing list
with hundreds of members and about any kind of Wikimedia related
development (which means thousands of software projects).

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[Wikitech-l] Re: Uplifting the multimedia stack (was: Community Wishlist Survery)

2022-01-28 Thread Andre Klapper
On Tue, 2022-01-11 at 13:30 +, Inductiveload wrote:
> [5] Developer Advocacy is a team that exists, but at least in my
> personal experience, I have never actually encountered it, except for
> bug wrangling.

If you're interested in what that (my) team is doing, I recommend
checking out https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developer_Advocacy 

Spoiler: Improving Small Wiki Toolkits, working on a Developer Portal
and improving related technical docs, organizing Outreach Programs,
maintaining Community Metrics, sorting out the next Hackathon, helping
with the Coolest Tool Award (which happened two weeks ago), etc...

Hope that provides a bit of an impression? :)

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[Wikitech-l] Re: [Wikimedia-l] Uplifting the multimedia stack (was: Community Wishlist Survery)

2022-01-28 Thread Andre Klapper
On Sat, 2022-01-01 at 07:41 +0100, Amir Sarabadani wrote:
> There is "code stewardship program" and its goal is to find owners
> for components that don't have an owner (or undeploy them). Sometimes
> it's successful, sometimes it's not. I have been asking for a
> maintainer for FlaggedRevs for four years now, beta cluster is
> suffering from a similar situation, etc. etc. It takes time to find
> an owner for everything, to fill the gaps in places we don't have a
> team to handle those (e.g. Multimedia, you can't just hand over that
> to team responsible for security for example). More info at
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Code_stewardship_reviews
> 

My very personal impression is that the Code Stewardship Review process
currently lacks decision authority and senior leadership support within
the WMF. It's not an engineering problem but a business problem.
Decisions themselves can sometimes be easy. Making them happen not so.

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[Wikitech-l] Coolest Tool Award 2021: Tomorrow, 17:00 UTC!

2022-01-13 Thread Andre Klapper
Hi everyone!

A reminder that the Coolest Tool Award event
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Coolest_Tool_Award
will happen online tomorrow, Friday 14 January at 17:00 UTC.
See https://zonestamp.toolforge.org/1642179615 for your timezone.

Here is more information about the venues:
 * The event will be live streamed on Youtube in the MediaWiki channel:
   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdnwhDAdrxE
 * The following venues can be used for socializing:
- Youtube live stream chat:
  https://www.youtube.com/user/watchmediawiki
- Twitter #CoolestToolAward :
  https://twitter.com/search?q=%23CoolestToolAward=live
- #wmhack Telegram group : https://t.me/wmhack
- #wikimedia-hackathon on Libera IRC

We hope to see you there!

andre, for the Coolest Tool Academy 2021

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[Wikitech-l] Re: How to get started ?

2022-01-08 Thread Andre Klapper
Hi and welcome!

On Sat, 2022-01-08 at 19:09 +0530, Ameygupta wrote:
> Respected sir/madam
> My name is Amey Gupta , I am a 2nd year undergrad at IIIT Sonipat .
> but I am well aware of html , CSS , JavaScript and python . I new to
> (Wikimedia) open source contribution so can you pls guide me  on how
> to started ?
> Hoping to hear from you soon !
> Regards
> Amey gupta

Please see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/New_Developers

Thanks a lot,
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[Wikitech-l] Some Phabricator and Gerrit 2021 statistics

2022-01-01 Thread Andre Klapper
Well, hello.

Sharing random numbers from that past Gregorian calendar year 2021 with
you. Big thanks to all technical contributors! <3

=== Phabricator 2021 ===

* 27432 tasks got created.
* 24723 tasks got closed.
* 3746 people were active in Phabricator.
* 2171 people created tasks.
* 787 people closed tasks.
* The 20 people who created the most tasks:
ppelberg   426
Reedy  379
Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE 374
Legoktm355
Jdlrobson  336
Jdforrester-WMF324
RobH   304
Aklapper   271
Inductiveload  256
Addshore   244
dcaro  244
Majavah232
bd808  232
DVrandecic 231
cmassaro   215
kostajh215
kai.nissen 212
Krinkle200
Michael196
DannyS712  195
* The 20 people who closed the most tasks:
Aklapper   981
Addshore   672
Jdlrobson  583
Jdforrester-WMF580
Jopparn558
Etonkovidova   546
ppelberg   490
Urbanecm   466
Krinkle374
Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE 340
hashar 333
Reedy  332
Samwalton9 321
LGoto  314
Legoktm309
Xqt294
ovasileva  288
kai.nissen 268
Gehel  255
matmarex   251

=== Gerrit 2021 ===

* 54097 changesets got created. [1]
* 98771 code reviews took place. [2]
* 586 people created patches. [3]
* The 20 people who submitted the most changesets: [4]
Umherirrender 2609
Robert Vogel  1319
DannyS712 1265
Zabe  1251
Legoktm   1241
Jforrester1237
Jbond 1225
Reedy 1198
Urbanecm  1147
Pwirth1032
Lucas Werkmeister (WMDE)   966
Xqt920
Eileen 901
Ladsgroup  901
Thiemo Kreuz (WMDE)897
Andrew Bogott  745
Elukey 715
Marostegui 703
Muehlenhoff684
Dzahn  682
* The 20 people who reviewed the most patchsets: [5]
Jforrester4176
Jbond 4045
DannyS712 3855
Robert Vogel  3119
Umherirrender 2986
Kunal Mehta   2516
Moritz Muehlenhoff2231
Luca Toscano  2223
Daniel Zahn   2144
Patric Wirth  1823
Andrew Bogott 1811
Marostegui1713
Martin Urbanec1709
Filippo Giunchedi 1602
Ppchelko  1526
Andrew Otto   1482
Jon Robson1378
aborrero  1327
Timo Tijhof   1289
Giuseppe Lavagetto1252

If you find a bug in these numbers, please see
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Community_metrics

Cheerio,
andre

[1] See "Gerrit  Changesets" on "Gerrit  Overview": 
https://wikimedia.biterg.io/goto/c2b4d03d9afadd08b1e1a5df87071276
[2] See "Total Number of Code Reviews  Approvals" on "Gerrit  Approvals": 
https://wikimedia.biterg.io/goto/e055063561a4880db0a65c4727cdf919
[3] See "Gerrit  Changeset Submitters" on "Gerrit  Overview": 
https://wikimedia.biterg.io/goto/c2b4d03d9afadd08b1e1a5df87071276
[4] See "Submitters" on "Gerrit  Overview": 
https://wikimedia.biterg.io/goto/c2b4d03d9afadd08b1e1a5df87071276
[5] See "Approvals by Reviewer" on "Gerrit  Approvals": 
https://wikimedia.biterg.io/goto/e055063561a4880db0a65c4727cdf919

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[Wikitech-l] Re: Small Wiki Tools User Feedback Survey

2021-12-22 Thread Andre Klapper
Hi,

On Tue, 2021-12-21 at 08:28 +0100, td...@mail.com wrote:
>    for the survey I would suggest you to take
> a look to the following extension

As already pointed out, investigating a change of the workflow at this
stage of a survey is not feasible. (For more info, see
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Writing_an_extension_for_deployment for
steps that would be needed to get an extension deployed on servers).

This isn't the first time that the issue of relying on third-party
services for surveys has been brought up. I've boldly created
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T294343 for this broader topic.

Cheers,
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[Wikitech-l] Save the date! Coolest Tool Award 2021: Friday, January 14th, 17:00 UTC

2021-12-17 Thread Andre Klapper
Hi everyone!

The second edition of the Coolest Tool Award
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Coolest_Tool_Award
will happen online on Friday 14 January 2022 at 17:00 UTC!

See https://zonestamp.toolforge.org/1642179615 for your timezone.

The awarded tools will be showcased in a virtual event, with
broadcasted video and chat channels for socializing. 
We will send more details and links soon.

Save the date, and join us celebrating the great work volunteer
developers do for the Wikimedia communities.

We hope to see you there!

andre, for the Coolest Tool Academy 2021

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[Wikitech-l] Developer Portal status update

2021-12-16 Thread Andre Klapper
Hej hej,

as you may remember from previous[1] posts[2], we (Alex[3], Bryan[4],
Sarah[5], Tricia[6], and me[7]) are working on a developer portal for
technical documentation[8] and updating key technical documents.
The goal is to make it easier for everyone to find the help and
information you need about the technical side of MediaWiki software and
Wikimedia projects and to improve the overall quality and
discoverability of technical documentation.

I'm going to share what has happened over the last months (also see the
general schedule[9]).

Regarding the technical stack, we decided on a platform[10]. Its work-
in-progress codebase is in Gerrit[11] and there might be a demo server
soon[12].
This is the technical scaffold; actual content will be added when we
get closer to launching in a few months (see the corresponding task
graph[13] for work to sort out before launching).

We defined core audiences[14] and had nine user tests completed[15] so
far. The feedback helped iterate on the Developer Portal content layout
draft prototype[16] (which evolved from a unified to a multipage
approach).

We are also in the process of reviewing and improving many key
technical documentation pages (which will get linked from the developer
portal).
These updates and accuracy checks are based on a review checklist[17].
The checklist may also be helpful for anyone else interested in good
technical documentation.
For planning documentation review work, we use a Phabricator
workboard[18]; you can also find the list of key pages on the project
wiki page[19].

To get involved, sign up[20] to participate in user testing for the
developer portal. For questions and feedback, leave us a comment on the
project talk page[21].

All these efforts are part of the goal to have discoverable docs and
paths to entry[22].

Cheers,
andre

[1] 
https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/YIIXKY455DCOFIF63BARD2BJEGIC7YF3/
[2] 
https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/XBNIH2Q3WJG5ECZXVBKGNCIB6GJ4KHX4/
[3] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:APaskulin_(WMF)
[4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:BDavis_(WMF)
[5] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:SRodlund_(WMF)
[6] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:TBurmeister_(WMF)
[7] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:AKlapper_(WMF)
[8] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developer_Advocacy/Developer_Portal
[9] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developer_Advocacy/Developer_Portal#Timeline
[10] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T287175
[11] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/g/wikimedia/developer-portal/
[12] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T297800
[13] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T261510
[14] 
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developer_Advocacy/Developer_Portal#Core_audiences
[15] 
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developer_Advocacy/Developer_Portal/Call_for_feedback_and_testing
[16] https://apaskulin.github.io/wmf-dev-portal-draft/
[17] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Documentation/Review_template
[18] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/profile/5409/
[19] 
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developer_Advocacy/Developer_Portal#Key_landing_pages
[20] 
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developer_Advocacy/Developer_Portal/Call_for_feedback_and_testing#We_could_use_your_help!
[21] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Developer_Advocacy/Developer_Portal
[22] 
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Technology/Annual_Plans/ERF_OKR:_Tech_Community_Building

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[Wikitech-l] Re: Regarding the open source contributions

2021-12-15 Thread Andre Klapper
Hi and welcome Shivam!

On Thu, 2021-12-16 at 09:58 +0530, Shivam Purohit wrote:
>  Myself Shivam Purohit 1st year Undergrad At IIIT Nagpur.
> I want to contribute the Wikipedia through the open source projects.
> I really like the idea of free information you giving through your
> site, so to give back to community and learn new things in, I want to
> contribute.
> I am new to contributing and it will be really helpful if I get
> beginner friendly issues.

Please see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/New_Developers

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[Wikitech-l] Re: Contributing to Wikimedia Foundation (Where Can I find the projects?)

2021-12-02 Thread Andre Klapper
Hi and welcome!

On Fri, 2021-12-03 at 01:20 +0530, Sai Teja Anantha wrote:
> Hey, I am Sai Teja Anantha, an Undergraduate student from IIT
> Kharagpur. I am a newbie to open source contributions, and I am looking
> forward to contributing to the Wikimedia foundation Organization.
> I am looking for projects in this Organization. Where can I find the
> projects currently that are active in this Organization, please let me
> know.

Please check https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/New_Developers

Thanks a lot!
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[Wikitech-l] Re: Gsoc 2022 contribution

2021-11-30 Thread Andre Klapper
On Tue, 2021-11-30 at 13:20 +0100, Vi to wrote:
> Mine was self-irony about my mistake. To be clear, I apologize since
> I wasn't able to locate that page, thus I made an useless comment.

Ah, thanks for clarifying, and I am sorry then!
I lacked some music context here obviously! :)

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[Wikitech-l] Re: Gsoc 2022 contribution

2021-11-30 Thread Andre Klapper
Hi Vito,

On Mon, 2021-11-29 at 22:39 +0100, Vi to wrote:
> [directed by Robert B. Weide]
> *Michielini's "frolic" plays in background*

Ah, okay. Would you also consider answering my questions and not just
share your playlist?

Thanks,
andre

> Il giorno lun 29 nov 2021 alle ore 15:42 Andre Klapper
>  ha scritto:
> > On Mon, 2021-11-29 at 15:14 +0100, Vi to wrote:
> > > I think we should make an help page for people googling "GSoC
> > > Mediawiki" or similar.
> > 
> > Errm, did you try googling "mediawiki gsoc"? The first result is
> > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code .
> > 
> > What's a "help page", and what would it change (and why)?
> > 
> > For the records, there's also some info under "Summary" on
> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/postorius/lists/wikitech-
> > l.lists.wikimedia.org/
> > 
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[Wikitech-l] Re: Gsoc 2022 contribution

2021-11-29 Thread Andre Klapper
On Mon, 2021-11-29 at 15:14 +0100, Vi to wrote:
> I think we should make an help page for people googling "GSoC
> Mediawiki" or similar.

Errm, did you try googling "mediawiki gsoc"? The first result is
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code .

What's a "help page", and what would it change (and why)?

For the records, there's also some info under "Summary" on
https://lists.wikimedia.org/postorius/lists/wikitech-l.lists.wikimedia.org/

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[Wikitech-l] Re: Looking for Open source Project

2021-11-27 Thread Andre Klapper
Hi and welcome!

On Sat, 2021-11-27 at 14:02 +0530, Aaditya Prasad wrote:
> Hey , I am a second year computer science student and looking for
> some project to contribute to GSoc2022 as I actively take part in
> open source events (recently completed Hacktoberfest) and above all ,
> I am a true admirer of free education for all which your organization
> supports.
> Kindly reply to me if you have any ongoing project and other sources
> of information regarding it.


Please see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/New_Developers which is also
linked from
https://lists.wikimedia.org/postorius/lists/wikitech-l.lists.wikimedia.org/

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[Wikitech-l] Re: Start contributing and learning

2021-11-24 Thread Andre Klapper
Hi Ishan and welcome!

On Wed, 2021-11-24 at 15:03 +0530, Ishan Bhat wrote:
> Dear Sir/Madam, 
> 
> I am Ishan Bhat from India, and I am writing this mail in regard to
> learning how to contribute to your open source projects.
> 
> As I am just a beginner, a 12th grade student, I wish to understand and
> explore this domain, and with your wonderful projects that are already
> existing, like wikipedia and wikimedia commons, I hope you will be kind
> enough to share some experience and knowledge to a young and curious
> learner, like me. 

Please see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/New_Developers 

Thanks a lot!
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[Wikitech-l] Re: How to get started with contribution

2021-11-22 Thread Andre Klapper
Hi and welcome Kajal!

On Mon, 2021-11-22 at 17:05 +0530, Kajal Kumari wrote:
> Respected sir/madam ,
> I am Kajal Kumari, a computer science undergrad, I have just entered in
> my second year at Banasthali vidyapith. I am new to open source
> contributions but I am well aware of JAVA, HTML, CSS and JAVASCRIPT. I
> would love to contribute to your organization. Could you please tell me
> how to get started?

Please see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/New_Developers 

Thanks a lot!
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[Wikitech-l] Re: Regarding Contribution in your Organization

2021-10-26 Thread Andre Klapper
Hi Ayush and welcome!

On Tue, 2021-10-26 at 19:26 +0530, Ayush Gadre wrote:
> I would love to join your open source community and learn from your
> mentors. I'm looking forward to being accepted to your group to learn
> more about the projects. So, I hereby request you to please add me in
> your mailing list or on your channel.

Thanks for your interest! Please see
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/New_Developers

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[Wikitech-l] [Last Reminder] Coolest Tool Award: Two more days for your nominations

2021-10-25 Thread Andre Klapper
Hi everyone, 

Last reminder: You have 2 days left to submit your Coolest Tool Award
nominations. Please recommend your favorite tools!

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Coolest_Tool_Award

Thanks!

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[Wikitech-l] [Reminder] Nominate your favorite tool until October 27 for the Coolest Tool Award

2021-10-20 Thread Andre Klapper
Hi everyone!

Just a reminder that there is one week left to submit your Coolest Tool
Award nominations. It only takes a few minutes to fill the form in!

Please recommend your favorite tools by October 27nd:

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Coolest_Tool_Award

Thanks!
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[Wikitech-l] Re: ListFiles special page

2021-10-14 Thread Andre Klapper
Hi Sergey,

On Thu, 2021-10-14 at 18:16 +0300, Sergey Dorofeev wrote:
> I have got issue with ListFiles page in mediawiki 1.35.1
> text in middle of file name.
> I looked in DB and saw that img_name column is varbinary, but 
> pagers/ImageListPager.php tries to do case-insensitive select with 
> LOWERing both sides of strings. But LOWER does not work for varbinary
> So I think that following change will be reasonable:

Thanks for looking at the code! If you think that you found a software
bug, please feel free to report it in the issue tracker:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_report_a_bug
Feel also very welcome to upload the patch into Gerrit for review:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Gerrit/Tutorial

Again, thanks a lot!
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[Wikitech-l] Coolest Tool Award 2021: Call for nominations

2021-10-11 Thread Andre Klapper
Dear all,

It’s time for our third edition of the Coolest Tool Award! 

Tools play an essential role at Wikimedia, and so do the many volunteer
developers who experiment with new ideas, develop & maintain local &
global solutions and enhance the experience for Wikimedia communities.

We’d like to invite you all to nominate your favorite & most used tools
and help us celebrate the people who create them!

As no one can possibly know all the cool tools out there, we’re looking
for some help and inspiration: please point us to the tools that you
think are great - for any reason you can think of! 

Please go to https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Coolest_Tool_Award
to recommend tools by October 27, 2021. You can nominate as many tools
as you want by filling out the form multiple times.

Thank you very much for your ideas & recommendation(s)! 

The award is organized & selected by the Coolest Tool Academy 2021. We
plan to recognize the greatest tools in a variety of categories (for
examples, see last year’s categories). The award ceremony will take
place virtually again this year and we will provide more details soon
about the specific logistics and dates.

We will continue to spread the word over the next week, but if you get
the chance, please feel welcome to share this information with others
too!

Thanks :-)

Andre, for the Coolest Tool Academy 2021

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[Wikitech-l] Re: Contributions to Infra

2021-08-31 Thread Andre Klapper
On Tue, 2021-08-31 at 20:36 +0530, jinana boy wrote:
> Hi , can you tell me which is the active project for gsoc 2022 so that
> I can contribute in it also add more feature , fix bugs etc

Hi, please see the links which I provided in the reply to your other
email: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Outreach_programs

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[Wikitech-l] Re: Gsoc 2022 contribution help

2021-08-31 Thread Andre Klapper
Hi Sourav,
welcome and thanks for your interest!

On Tue, 2021-08-31 at 12:16 +0530, jinana boy wrote:
> Myself sourav I am beginner at open source also I want to know your
> active project idea list in order to make changes / add more feature
> into it but unable to find from where to start , so if you can guide me
> how to start contribute in your project it will be helpfull for me

Please see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Outreach_programs and
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/New_Developers .

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[Wikitech-l] Re: Contribution to Wikimedia

2021-08-18 Thread Andre Klapper
Hi Siddhi,

On Wed, 2021-08-18 at 18:17 +0530, Siddhi Bhanushali wrote:
> How can I contribute to this?

Please see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/New_Developers

Thanks!
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[Wikitech-l] Re: Wikimedia Github

2021-08-18 Thread Andre Klapper
Hi and welcome Siddhi!

On Wed, 2021-08-18 at 17:38 +0530, Siddhi Bhanushali wrote:
> Can I get github link of Wikimedia.

Please see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Gerrit/GitHub

For general info, see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/New_Developers

(PS: For future reference, please set an email subject line - thanks!)

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[Wikitech-l] Re: reviewer for extension

2021-08-13 Thread Andre Klapper
Hi,

On Fri, 2021-08-13 at 09:14 +0200, td...@mail.com wrote:
> Hello, I have just updated this extension
>  
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CIForms
>  
> and the related github repository.
> However, to update the code on gerrit here
>  
> https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/g/mediawiki/extensions/CIForms
>  
> I would need a code-reviewer. Anyone willing to help with this ?

Is this about
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/mediawiki/extensions/CIForms/+/663043
as that is the only open changeset listed under
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/q/project:mediawiki/extensions/CIForms ?

I wonder if it makes sense to change the repository in Gerrit from
"Merge review" to "Open push", assuming you are the sole developer?
That would allow you to directly push (if I understand correctly).

Such changes should likely go directly into Gerrit, without having to
fork a mirrored copy of the codebase on GitHub.

Cheers,
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[Wikitech-l] Re: Gadget AjQuickDelete

2021-08-08 Thread Andre Klapper
Hi,
On Sat, 2021-08-07 at 21:30 +0100, Dhaval S. Vyas wrote:
> I had imported gadget AJQuickDelete from commons to gu.wiki a few years
> back, which worked perfectly well until I updated it last month. Not it
> has disappeared from the navigation bar.
> 
> Can someone please help me by looking in to it?

Please see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Locating_broken_scripts
how you can do some initial debugging.

ext.gadget.QuickDelete and ext.gadget.AjaxQuickDelete show "Unknown
module: ext.gadget.libJQuery" which is defined as a dependency on
https://gu.wikipedia.org/wiki/મીડિયાવિકિ:Gadgets-definition

Cheers,
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PS: This might be a topic for https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech
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[Wikitech-l] Re: Wikidata API rate limits for newbies

2021-08-03 Thread Andre Klapper
On Tue, 2021-08-03 at 13:16 +, Baskauf, Steven James wrote:
> I have a script for writing to the Wikidata API that respects the rate
> limit of 50 edits per minute for bots without a bot flag. However, when
> that script was used by somebody else, she received the error "As an
> anti-abuse measure, you are limited from performing this action too
> many times in a short space of time, and you have exceeded this
> limit.\nPlease try again in a few minutes". I think it is because she
> is a "newbie" who is subjected to a slower rate (i.e. as in
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgRateLimits).
>  
> Questions:
> 1. Is there a newbie rate limit that is slower than the rate for
> "normal" registered users?
> 2. If so, what is that limit?

https://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/InitialiseSettings.php.txt under
'wgRateLimits' lists 8 edits per minute for a 'newbie' under 'edit'.

> 3. How many edits must a newbie user make before they are no longer
> considered a "newbie" (or is number of edits not the criterion for
> being considered a newbie)?

That link mentions "4 days to pass isNewbie()" as 'default'; plus a
'wgAutoConfirmCount' for 'wikidata' => 50

In general, a user could query their ratelimits via
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Userinfo

HTH,
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[Wikitech-l] Re: Developer Portal content draft: A future central place which links key technical documents

2021-07-01 Thread Andre Klapper
On Thu, 2021-05-06 at 14:41 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote:
> : Your feedback is wanted on 
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developer_Advocacy/Developer_Portal/Content_Draft

Thanks to everyone who provided feedback in the last two months.
The feedback has been included in the updated content draft.

You can find a high-level summary of the feedback received at
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developer_Advocacy/Developer_Portal#Feedback_from_broader_community_and_outcomes
and the next steps planned at
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developer_Advocacy/Developer_Portal#Timeline

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[Wikitech-l] [Reminder] Your feedback on the Developer Portal content draft

2021-05-21 Thread Andre Klapper
Your feedback on content for a central place which links key technical
documents is still very welcome until next Tuesday:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developer_Advocacy/Developer_Portal/Content_Draft

Or join our Hackathon session this Saturday at 18:00UTC:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Hackathon_2021/Schedule

For more information, see the initial email:
https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2021-May/094479.html

Thanks for your help to make finding our key tech docs easier!
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[Wikitech-l] Developer Portal content draft: A future central place which links key technical documents

2021-05-06 Thread Andre Klapper
: Your feedback is wanted on 
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developer_Advocacy/Developer_Portal/Content_Draft

Hi everyone,

last year[1] the Developer Advocacy team started to work on a single,
central entry point for developers and tech-minded people for
Wikimedia's technical documentation[2].

A central entry point ("developer portal") would cover common technical
use cases to allow existing and future technical contributors and
developers to find the information they need.
Each use case links to its most relevant documentation (i.e. to pages
on wikitech or mediawiki.org).

This is part of a larger initiative to implement an organization
strategy for key technical documents: Understand challenges about
finding and maintaining docs, identify key docs, and investigate ways
to improve our workflows around documentation.

So far we:

 * Researched and reviewed existing documentation venues and pages
 * Reviewed developer/documentation portals in the broader industry
 * Interviewed several engineering teams around technical documentation
   workflows, audiences, and key technical docs (the key themes from
   these conversations are available, see the link above)
 * Created an initial draft for the structure and content of the single
   entry point 

Now we would like to improve this initial content draft with your help.

1) Please take a look at the initial draft at
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developer_Advocacy/Developer_Portal/Content_Draft

2) Then, please help improve it by sharing your thoughts and feedback
until *May 25th* at
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developer_Advocacy/Developer_Portal/Content_Draft/Feedback

Note that this is only a draft how to structure content. 
It is not a design or layout proposal and it is not an implementation.
For additional future work, see also the Phabricator workboard[3].

Next steps include:

 * A session at the remote Hackathon (May 22-23; [4])
 * Incorporate content improvements, based on your feedback
 * Check the documents linked from the single entry point proposal for
   accuracy
 * Investigate requirements for the technical implementation
 * Investigate improvements of processes around technical documentation
   (structure, locations, navigation, stewardship, etc).

If you want to learn more about the project, please see 
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developer_Advocacy/Developer_Portal

Thanks to everybody who has provided their valuable input to get to
this stage, and thanks in advance to everyone who will!

Cheers,
andre

[1] https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2020-August/093773.html
[2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developer_Advocacy/Developer_Portal
[3] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/wikimedia-developer-portal/
[4] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Hackathon_2021

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Pywikibot login session period

2021-03-26 Thread Andre Klapper
Hi Shrini,

On Fri, 2021-03-26 at 02:05 +0530, Shrinivasan T wrote:
>  I am exploring pywikibot to write few bots.
> 
> How long this login session is stored?
> Is one time login enough?
> Will it ask to login after some time?

For Pywikibot, please see "Get help" on
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Pywikibot

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Introduction

2021-03-20 Thread Andre Klapper
Hi and welcome Rohit!

On Sat, 2021-03-20 at 16:37 +0530, Rohit Purkait wrote:
> I am Rohit Purkait, 1st year B.Tech undergraduate at Techno India Main.
> 
> I would like to contribute to Wikitech-I. I have working experience in
> HTML, CSS,  SASS, JavaScript and Node.js

Please see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/New_Developers - thanks! :)

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Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikidata] [Wikimedia-l] Idea of a new project: Wikifacts ?

2021-02-05 Thread Andre Klapper
On Fri, 2021-02-05 at 22:00 +, Adam Sobieski wrote:
> Thank you for the information about schema.org with respect
> toClaimReview.

Not sure why this was crossposted to wikitech-l@. Please see
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_new_projects

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Technical Decision Making Process Update and Change

2021-02-04 Thread Andre Klapper
On Thu, 2021-02-04 at 08:54 +1000, K. Peachey wrote:
> Are the Gerrit permission requests that techcom used to handle going
> to the new forum or another team?

To be defined. :) The Technical Engagement team is currently
investigating; see https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T273164

Cheers,
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Re: [Wikitech-l] GSoC 2021

2021-01-16 Thread Andre Klapper
Hi and welcome!

On Sun, 2021-01-17 at 03:29 +0530, Ayush Kumar wrote:
> Hello Everyone, I’m Ayush Kumar pursuing my Bachelor's degree in
> Computer Science and Engineering from JSSATE Noida, India. I am very
> enthusiastic to explore open source and I am trying to connect with
> open source organizations to learn new skills and contribute to
> organizations. I am currently working as a web developer and want to
> contribute to your organization. I'd be grateful if someone could
> guide me on how I can get started with contributing to your
> organization. I am also preparing for GSoC2021.

Please see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/New_Developers and
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Outreach_programs .

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[Wikitech-l] Some Phabricator and Gerrit 2020 statistics

2021-01-01 Thread Andre Klapper
Happy new Gregorian calendar year and welcome to 2021.

Let me share some random statistics and numbers from 2020 with you.
Big thanks to our many technical contributors! <3

=== Phabricator 2020 ===

* 29321 tasks got created.
* 26787 tasks got closed.
* 3958 people were active in Phabricator.
* 2349 people created tasks.
* 839 people closed tasks.
* The 20 people who created the most tasks:
DannyS712   729 
Reedy   585 
Jdlrobson   485 
ppelberg394 
Krinkle 302 
JosefineHellrothLarssonWMSE 278 
Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE  273 
Urbanecm263 
kai.nissen  258 
RobH253 
Alicia_Fagerving_WMSE   249 
Lokal_Profil239 
Marostegui  226 
Eric_Luth_WMSE  219 
Addshore217 
Tgr 212 
Samwalton9  209 
ayounsi 204 
jbolorinos-ctr  193 
Aklapper191 
* The 20 people who closed the most tasks:
Aklapper   1356 
Jopparn 654 
DannyS712   630 
Lokal_Profil556 
ppelberg484 
Reedy   482 
Urbanecm426 
Jdlrobson   410 
Krinkle 408 
kai.nissen  407 
Jdforrester-WMF 402 
bd808   402 
Dbrant  360 
Xqt 352 
Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE  302 
Addshore298 
Lydia_Pintscher 283 
Nuria   280 
Marostegui  261 
hashar  256 

=== Gerrit 2020 ===

* 57143 changesets got created. [1]
* 104374 code reviews took place. [2]
* 604 people created patches. [3]
* The 20 people who submitted the most changesets: [4]
DannyS712  2403
Umherirrender  2125
Reedy  1937
Jforrester 1682
Dzahn  1289
Robert Vogel   1223
Jbond  1220
Pwirth 1101
ItSpiderman1059
Andrew Bogott  1046
Elukey 1029
Xqt 956
Esanders910
Urbanecm904
Thiemo Kreuz (WMDE) 893
Marostegui  838
Lucas Werkmeister (WMDE)812
Legoktm 806
Jdlrobson   700
Zoranzoki21 695
* The 20 people who reviewed the most patchsets: [5]
Jforrester 5931
Daniel Zahn3945
DannyS712  3870
Jbond  3486
Luca Toscano   2900
Andrew Bogott  2534
Robert Vogel   2506
Moritz Muehlenhoff 2353
Umherirrender  2204
Ppchelko   2192
Marostegui 2117
Patric Wirth   1880
Timo Tijhof1809
Filippo Giunchedi  1797
Thiemo Kreuz   1707
ItSpiderman1700
Sam Reed   1637
Martin Urbanec 1595
Jon Robson 1571
Alexandros Kosiaris1524


No responsibility taken for correctness - software can have boogs. :P
If you find one, see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Community_metrics

Cheerio,
andre

[1] See "Gerrit  Changesets" on "Gerrit  Overview": 
https://wikimedia.biterg.io/goto/ddd6fcf94ec252f23830cdea4d683c62
[2] See "Total Number of Code Reviews  Approvals" on "Gerrit  Approvals": 
https://wikimedia.biterg.io/goto/731a957e7400c3c014eaf3eeb9fbdc7e
[3] See "Gerrit  Changeset Submitters" on "Gerrit  Overview": 
https://wikimedia.biterg.io/goto/ddd6fcf94ec252f23830cdea4d683c62
[4] See "Submitters" on "Gerrit  Overview": 
https://wikimedia.biterg.io/goto/ddd6fcf94ec252f23830cdea4d683c62
[5] See "Approvals by Reviewer" on "Gerrit  Approvals": 
https://wikimedia.biterg.io/goto/731a957e7400c3c014eaf3eeb9fbdc7e

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Re: [Wikitech-l] The watchlist queue does not work recently

2020-12-29 Thread Andre Klapper
On Tue, 2020-12-29 at 18:37 +, Tom Doles via Wikitech-l wrote:
Yeah, I also had to deal with such unhelpful responses before.

I'm sorry to hear that. The process of gathering sufficient info in
tickets can unfortunately sometimes be confusing, surprising, or
frustrating, given the many technical Wikimedia areas and complexity.

> Some advice to avoid this:

Customer service rule no. 1: listen to the customer. It's not helpful
to argue and I'd assume that's not what Andre's employer expects from
him.


There might be a misunderstanding:

Phabricator is an issue tracker where people interact in their many
different roles (readers, editors, developers, managers, translators,
document writers, designers, etc etc etc). Anyone can report Wikimedia
related technical issues there, by following
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_report_a_bug

If you are looking for a 'customer service' support venue, then you may
want to check https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Support_desk for
MediaWiki, or https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech for tech issues on
Wikimedia wikis, or contact the OTRS mail queues.


Regarding [part of] my work, https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Bugwrangler
tries to outline some duties. (As I was explicitly mentioned.)

Hope that helps a bit. :)

Cheers,
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Re: [Wikitech-l] The watchlist queue does not work recently

2020-12-29 Thread Andre Klapper
On Tue, 2020-12-29 at 21:24 +0200, Strainu wrote:
> 
> Pe marți, 29 decembrie 2020, Andre Klapper a scris:
> > 
> > No. It says "Full details of the issue, giving as much detail as
> > possible."
> > 
> 
> That's just... Confusing. I can totally understand why someone would
> feel discouraged from logging an issue. How about "Full details of
> the issue, giving all the information you currently have. If that is
> insufficient you will be asked for additional information along with
> guidance on how to obtain it."? 
> 
> An example of what "minimized steps" means might also be a good
> idea. 

Feel free to edit / improve the wiki page. :)

Thanks a lot!
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Re: [Wikitech-l] The watchlist queue does not work recently

2020-12-29 Thread Andre Klapper
On Tue, 2020-12-29 at 20:14 +0200, יגאל חיטרון wrote:
> Sure. As you said, this very link requires full reproduction steps.

No. It says "Full details of the issue, giving as much detail as possible."

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Re: [Wikitech-l] The watchlist queue does not work recently

2020-12-29 Thread Andre Klapper
On Tue, 2020-12-29 at 13:53 +0200, יגאל חיטרון wrote:
> I already tryed this approach a couple of times, and every time you
> said not to report if I have no full reproducing algorithm.

I don't think so. I can rather imagine that I asked to always follow
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_report_a_bug with all its bits
and pieces (how to structure bug reports, to include sufficient info
such as links and browser info, making sure no gadgets interfere, etc).

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Re: [Wikitech-l] The watchlist queue does not work recently

2020-12-29 Thread Andre Klapper
On Mon, 2020-12-28 at 22:44 +0200, יגאל חיטרון wrote:
> I know this. I've explained exactly why I can't file a ticket.
> Igal

I read that. I explained which link to follow to report this in the
correct place: in the issue tracker. Sometimes exact steps to reproduce
are not known [yet] and that can be fine initially - in that case the
reporter should provide the steps to reproduce that the reporter knows.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] The watchlist queue does not work recently

2020-12-28 Thread Andre Klapper
On Mon, 2020-12-28 at 19:01 +0200, יגאל חיטרון wrote:
> There is a serious problem in watchlist queue at the last hours.

Hi, please see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_report_a_bug (or
point people who experience the problem to that page).

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Community Wishlist Survey 2021

2020-12-15 Thread Andre Klapper
On Fri, 2020-12-11 at 15:36 +0530, Rohitesh Kumar Jain wrote:
> I have joined this community channel a few days ago only, 

Hi and welcome!

> I am curious to know what happens to the selected proposals? 

See https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey_2021

> Who works upon them and what happens to the proposals that get few
> votes only? 

I guess anyone is free to work on whatever they are interested in - the
code is public. :)

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Want to Contribute Need Help

2020-11-03 Thread Andre Klapper
Hi and welcome Puneet!

On Tue, 2020-11-03 at 23:27 +0530, Puneet Dwivedi wrote:
> Hello Puneet here,I am interested and  I want to contribute for the
> organization.Honestly new to the open source contribution. As I have
> good knowledge about the HTML CSS JAVASCRIPT and PHP as well. So
> please help me how I could contribute for organization.

Please see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/New_Developers

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Information regarding Gsoc

2020-10-25 Thread Andre Klapper
Hi and welcome to the Wikimedia community!

On Sun, 2020-10-25 at 12:56 +0530, Shirish Kumar wrote:
> I want to participate in GSOC 2021 at Wikimedia .
> How to contribute at Wikimedia

Please see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code and
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/New_Developers 

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikimedia Phabricator Tutorial Videos available on Commons

2020-10-01 Thread Andre Klapper
Hi,

On Wed, 2020-09-30 at 16:30 +0200, Zoran Dori wrote:
> > Could you please elaborate and provide context?
> > Which screenshots and where exactly?

> I thinked on
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/Help#Displaying_and_using_a_Space
> as an example, but I believe that we have more pages which needs
> updated screenshots.

Thanks! I updated some of them now. Help is welcome. :)

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikimedia Phabricator Tutorial Videos available on Commons

2020-09-30 Thread Andre Klapper
Hi Zoran,

On Wed, 2020-09-30 at 15:38 +0200, Zoran Dori wrote:
> I also think that this is great. 

Thanks! :)

> But, maybe we should have and updated screenshots?

Could you please elaborate and provide context? 
Which screenshots and where exactly?

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[Wikitech-l] Wikimedia Phabricator Tutorial Videos available on Commons

2020-09-30 Thread Andre Klapper
Hi everyone,

if you've also sometimes wondered about using Wikimedia Phabricator or
struggle a bit with it: I made some tutorial videos how to best use it
(including English subtitles). They are now linked from the top of 

  https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/Help

and can also be found at
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Phabricator_Tutorial_Series

Subtitle translations to other languages would be really welcome! :)

And if you think that something common and important is missing in
those videos, please share your thoughts for a revised edition in 
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T263480

Cheerio & thanks!,
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[Wikitech-l] [Heads-up] Creating a Wikimedia Developer Portal

2020-08-29 Thread Andre Klapper
Hi everyone,

do you usually find all the technical documentation you are looking
for? Yes? Great! For everyone else, this email is an early heads-up
announcement about the idea to create a Wikimedia Developer Portal. :P

For more info (that's currently only the problem definition, goal,
scope, and past research, hence "idea" and not yet "plan"):

https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developer_Advocacy/Developer_Portal

If you have thoughts and opinions, please share them on the wiki
discussion page! Please focus comments on the current sections on the
page, as it is not the time yet to discuss content categorization or
implementation details - that will happen later in the process.

More info to come when things are a bit more worked out.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Phabricator monthly statistics - 2020-07

2020-08-02 Thread Andre Klapper
On Sun, 2020-08-02 at 01:03 +0200, Zoran Dori wrote:
> Hello,
> I'm confused why I got this same mail twice, from same mailing list? 

See https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T258371

> See screenshot on this URL: https://snipboard.io/20IEMR.jpg

To exclude problems with local mail client configuration / personal
filters it's best to check the online archives instead:
https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2020-August/thread.html

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Request for checking two patches on Gerrit

2020-08-02 Thread Andre Klapper
Heja,

On Sun, 2020-08-02 at 01:05 +0200, Zoran Dori wrote:
> can you check last two patches from this URL:
> https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/q/status:open+owner:zorandori%2540gmail.com+extension+registration

That URL lists 17 patches and sorting might be different (what's
"last"?). Please be specific already in emails which repository it's
about. Most people won't spend time to click random links only to find
out that they have no idea about some codebase.

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[Wikitech-l] [FYI] Identifying candidates for Gerrit CR+2 permissions

2020-07-28 Thread Andre Klapper
I've been wondering for a while [1] about a way to get a list of quite
active reviewers in Wikimedia Gerrit who have not +2'ed any proposed
changes in Gerrit, implying that these developers don't have +2
permissions [2] and could be candidates to receive +2 permissions.

Last weekend I created a dashboard at 
https://wikimedia.biterg.io/app/kibana#/dashboard/ffd01840-cdf9-11ea-8358-4d35848e335d

It's not very performant but it works.

On the left you can filter on a specific reviewer (hover over the name
and select the "+" magnifier icon). After enough patience you can see
on the right the code repositories in which they have been reviewing
proposed patches in the timeframe defined in the upper right corner.

https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Community_metrics#List_of_the_most_active_reviewers_without_CR+2_actions
is the corresponding documentation.
Please use the discussion page if you have any comments or questions.

Thanks!
andre

[1] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T199385
[2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Gerrit/Privilege_policy

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Re: [Wikitech-l] New to project [was: Proposal to disable the discourse-mediawiki.wmflabs.org test instance ("Wikimedia Developer Support")]

2020-07-27 Thread Andre Klapper
Welcome Rahul.

On Mon, 2020-07-27 at 12:24 +0530, Rahul Pawar wrote:
> Hey I m new to the project.
> Is there something for me to do?
> I know python,CPP html CSS

Please see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/New_Developers

Cheers,
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PS: For future reference, please start a new thread for new questions,
instead of replying to unrelated threads. See the subject line. Thanks.

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[Wikitech-l] Proposal to disable the discourse-mediawiki.wmflabs.org test instance ("Wikimedia Developer Support")

2020-07-26 Thread Andre Klapper
: Make discourse-mediawiki.wmflabs.org read-only by end of
August. See and comment on https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T247010


Hi everyone,
 
In January 2018, an experimental instance of the Q platform
"Discourse" was set up for developer support at
https://discourse-mediawiki.wmflabs.org .
See https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T180854 .

Since its launch, the usage of this instance has declined:
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T247010#6270883
On average, there are two users who are engaged daily.

Other support venues which exist in parallel are much more active, such
as IRC, mailing lists, [[mw:Project:Support_desk]], [[meta:Tech]],
local technical village pumps, newsletters, Zulip for outreach
programs, or other third-party sites such as mwusers.org,
StackExchange.com, or Reddit.

Discontinuing the least frequented venue (which unfortunately is
Discourse though it seems to be a great communication platform) would
keep us from further fragmenting our conversations and efforts.

Planning, implementing, establishing and running a centralized
Wikimedia developer support venue on production infrastructure
(puppetization, data backups, uptime, etc) would require significant
technical and "social" capacity. If Discourse was to be further
evaluated, https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T155678 and its subtasks
list part of the remaining needed work.

I propose to make discourse-mediawiki.wmflabs.org read-only by the end
of August 2020. 

Please comment on https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T247010 if you have
thoughts to share instead of replying to this message.
Because keeping conversations in one place. ;)
 
Thanks a lot!
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Contribute to the Wikimedia Technical Blog!

2020-07-18 Thread Andre Klapper
On Sat, 2020-07-18 at 17:02 +0530, Rahul Pawar wrote:
> Ya read the post in link n I want to contribute. So who is the admin I want
> to consult about topic

https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_technical_blog_editorial_guidelines#Share_your_idea_for_your_blog_post_or_a_post_you_have_already_written

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Contribute to the Wikimedia Technical Blog!

2020-07-17 Thread Andre Klapper
Hi,

On Sat, 2020-07-18 at 02:45 +0530, Soham Parekh wrote:
> Are there specific topics or can we write about our GSoC experience
> as well?

Have you checked the link that I posted? If the wiki page is somehow
unclear, then please clarify what's unclear on its Discussion page at
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_technical_blog_editorial_guidelines

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Contribute to the Wikimedia Technical Blog!

2020-07-17 Thread Andre Klapper
Hi Rahul,

On Sat, 2020-07-18 at 00:30 +0530, Rahul Pawar wrote:
> Please give me details about what you are looking for posts. I would be
> glad to work with you and contribute

See 
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_technical_blog_editorial_guidelines#About_the_Tech_Blog

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Video on Wikipedia

2020-05-23 Thread Andre Klapper
On Sat, 2020-05-23 at 22:29 +0300, Strainu wrote:
> Is there a page where I can find a matrix or some other executive
> summary of what players we're using on what browsers?

https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:TimedMediaHandler#Client_support
in theory. In practice that seems to be about the Kaltura player but
not VideoJS? Ah, that page does not even provide a link to
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:TimedMediaHandler/VideoJS_Player
Keeping documentation up-to-date: Not always the main focus it seems.

Probably also depends on whether you are logged in and if you have
enabled "New video player" under "Preferences > Beta features".

Probably also depends on whether your web browser (version) supports
HTML5: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T100106

Probably also depends on which exact website you are on:
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T248418

> I've tried to push for more video to be used in Infoboxes just to see
> examples of why that is a terrible idea [1].
> [1] https://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fi%C8%99ier:IMG_20200523_183135.jpg

I don't know what "is a terrible idea" in the image. Please be explicit
in what you expect and what happens instead so we don't have to guess.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Contribute and help enhance our Wikimedia Foundation projects.

2020-05-10 Thread Andre Klapper
Hi,

On Sun, 2020-05-10 at 14:56 +0530, Soham Parekh wrote:
> Hey Joel! Firstly it's awesome that you express a desire to
> contribute to
> Wikimedia. A good place to start is by joining Zulip at
> https://wikimedia.zulipchat.com

In my understanding Zulip is used for Outreach programs only:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Outreach_programs

I'd recommend https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_contribute

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Re: [Wikitech-l] PolyGerrit

2020-04-27 Thread Andre Klapper
On Mon, 2020-04-27 at 23:21 +0200, Zoran Dori wrote:
> I think that we should upgrade Gerrit.

See https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T200739 and its many related
tasks that someone / we needs to sort out first... :)

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Remote hackathon (May 9 - 11, 2020)

2020-04-21 Thread Andre Klapper
Heja,

On Mon, 2020-04-20 at 21:03 +0200, Maarten Dammers wrote:
> The first weekend of May the Wikimedia Hackathon 2020 in Tirana was 
> supposed to happen. As an alternative, we're organizing a remote 
> hackathon. Please have a look at 
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Hackathon_2020/Remote_Hackathon 
> and sign up if you're interested in participating.
> 
> All of the sessions, projects, and initiatives are run by the 
> participants themselves and not overseen by a core organizing team.  All 
> ideas including technical projects and sessions, non-technical projects 
> and sessions, and social events/socal time are very welcome.

It should probably also be added that as a movement, we don't have yet
the experience to run remote events and we're all learning. :)
This initiative is not a fully planned hackathon, but hopefully a nice
opportunity to spend some social and hack time together.

I'd also like to explicitly point out that if you plan to work on
technical projects which will require deploying changes at some point,
please be mindful and make sure to read and follow 
https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Deployments/Covid-19 - let's not
create more work for fellow developers and keep (some) things stable.

Hope to see you there, even if you only join for a few hours!

Happy hacking!

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Re: [Wikitech-l] [pywikibot] Remote hackathon (May 9 - 11, 2020)

2020-04-21 Thread Andre Klapper
On Tue, 2020-04-21 at 11:34 +0100, RhinosF1 - wrote:
> Where would we sign up?
> 
> The registration form is still suited to the in person event.

https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Hackathon_2020/Registershould probably 
link to
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Hackathon_2020/Remote_Hackathon#Participants

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Request for +2'ing some patches

2020-04-15 Thread Andre Klapper
On Tue, 2020-04-14 at 15:19 +0200, Zoran Dori wrote:
> Hello,
> can someone review patches from list on
> https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/status:open+extension+registration+reviewer:"Zoranzoki21+%253Czorandori%2540gmail.com%253E;
> and if possible +2 these which haven't merge conflict.

A cleaner list would be to also filter on "is:mergeable AND
label:Verified>=1 AND label:Code-Review>=0"

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/status:open+AND+is:mergeable+AND+label:Verified%253E%253D1+AND+label:Code-Review%253E%253D0+extension+registration+reviewer:%22Zoranzoki21+%253Czorandori%2540gmail.com%253E%22

That leaves six items. All of them are non-deployed extensions.

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