Re: [Wikitech-l] [Analytics] Fwd: Page view stats we can believe in

2013-02-14 Thread Erik Zachte
: 'A mailing list for the Analytics Team at WMF and everybody who has an interest in Wikipedia and analytics.'; 'Wikimedia developers' Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] [Analytics] Fwd: Page view stats we can believe in On 02/14/2013 02:56 AM, Erik Zachte wrote: Lars, I think you are overdoing

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Analytics] Fwd: Page view stats we can believe in

2013-02-14 Thread Erik Zachte
.'; 'Wikimedia developers' Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] [Analytics] Fwd: Page view stats we can believe in On 02/14/2013 02:56 AM, Erik Zachte wrote: Lars, I think you are overdoing it. The reports are not nonsense, but have over time become more inaccurate than some other stats we present. Actually

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Analytics] Fwd: Page view stats we can believe in

2013-02-14 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Lars Aronsson, 14/02/2013 04:02: On 02/14/2013 02:56 AM, Erik Zachte wrote: Lars, I think you are overdoing it. The reports are not nonsense, but have over time become more inaccurate than some other stats we present. Actually if the reports would have mentioned 'pages served' rather than

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Analytics] Fwd: Page view stats we can believe in

2013-02-14 Thread Marco Fleckinger
Hi, On 02/14/2013 12:04 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: Why are those bots not using the API, by the way? One possible reason, I can imagine: Maybe because it's turned off on many private wikis. I saw spam on such ones as well. Obviously there is a framework, which doesn't need to use the

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Analytics] Fwd: Page view stats we can believe in

2013-02-13 Thread Lars Aronsson
Hi Erik, You're quite right numbers are inflated, and we've been over this before [1]. Below are some sampled data for da.wiktionary from webstatscollector [2] and squid log [3] Bot traffic is a substantial share of 'page views' (but not the majority as you suggest). We discussed this

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Analytics] Fwd: Page view stats we can believe in

2013-02-13 Thread Erik Zachte
Lars, I think you are overdoing it. The reports are not nonsense, but have over time become more inaccurate than some other stats we present. Actually if the reports would have mentioned 'pages served' rather than 'page views' they still would be spot on. Of course I also would have hoped

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Analytics] Fwd: Page view stats we can believe in

2013-02-13 Thread Lars Aronsson
On 02/14/2013 02:56 AM, Erik Zachte wrote: Lars, I think you are overdoing it. The reports are not nonsense, but have over time become more inaccurate than some other stats we present. Actually if the reports would have mentioned 'pages served' rather than 'page views' they still would be