Re: [Wikitech-l] 2016W40 ArchCom-RFC meeting: future of magic links

[C. Scott Ananian]

I just have anecdotal knowledge based on
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117165 -- people seem to use ISBNs in
citations often enough to complain when they are 'ed by Visual
Editor, but I don't remember ever having any complaint about s
around the RFC or PMID magic links.
 --scott

On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 11:12 AM, Chad  wrote:

> On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 11:52 PM Legoktm 
> wrote:
>
> > > 2.  Deprecation strategy for Wikimedia wikis (e.g. Wikipedia)
> >
> > Most of the migration can be done using a bot with some basic regexes,
> > but the key part will be adapting templates to generate links (e.g. ISBN
> > citation templates) instead of relying upon magic link functionality.
> >
> >
> Question: do we have any kinds of numbers yet on how widely these are
> used across WMF projects?
>
> It's info something we could probably get out of either Elasticsearch or
> the
> dumps probably :)
>
> -Chad
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Re: [Wikitech-l] 2016W40 ArchCom-RFC meeting: future of magic links

[Chad]

On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 11:52 PM Legoktm  wrote:

> > 2.  Deprecation strategy for Wikimedia wikis (e.g. Wikipedia)
>
> Most of the migration can be done using a bot with some basic regexes,
> but the key part will be adapting templates to generate links (e.g. ISBN
> citation templates) instead of relying upon magic link functionality.
>
>
Question: do we have any kinds of numbers yet on how widely these are
used across WMF projects?

It's info something we could probably get out of either Elasticsearch or the
dumps probably :)

-Chad
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Re: [Wikitech-l] 2016W40 ArchCom-RFC meeting: future of magic links

[Legoktm]

Hi,

On 10/04/2016 04:56 PM, Rob Lanphier wrote:
> The RFC has three components:
> 1.  Moving this functionality to an extension (via parser hook) in
> time for the MediaWiki 1.28 release

Errr, not exactly. Step 1 is to disable the magic link functionality by
default for the MediaWiki 1.28 release, and mark it as deprecated. We
would add a tracking category for each type of magic link if they are
still enabled. And regardless of magic link enabling status, we would
add a {{ISBN:...}} parser function to make a convenient link to
Special:Booksources. (RFC/PMID are replaced using interwiki links). At
this time nothing would be moving to an extension.

> 2.  Deprecation strategy for Wikimedia wikis (e.g. Wikipedia)

Most of the migration can be done using a bot with some basic regexes,
but the key part will be adapting templates to generate links (e.g. ISBN
citation templates) instead of relying upon magic link functionality.

> 3.  Disable magic links hooks a year later (in time for the next
> MediaWiki LTS release)

More specifically, removing all magic link functionality from MediaWiki
core. We would move the Booksources code and ISBN parser function to an
extension.

> Given that the implications of steps 2 and 3 are much broader than
> just the MediaWiki community, this won't likely result in a "final
> comment" period for anything other than step 1.  But maybe(?) we can
> agree to move forward with step 1.

Yes, I think having a decision about the time sensitive parts (for
MediaWiki 1.28) would be a good goal.

> Let's chat about that tomorrow.  Same time as always (Wednesday 21
> UTC, 14 PDT, 23 CEST) and place (#wikimedia-office).

Unfortunately I won't be able to attend due to a conflict with school,
but cscott has volunteered to represent me and the RfC tomorrow. :)

Thanks,
-- Legoktm

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