Re: [Wikitech-l] Backing out REL1_24

2014-09-27 Thread Mark A. Hershberger
Legoktm legoktm.wikipe...@gmail.com writes: On 9/22/14 1:10 PM, Mark A. Hershberger wrote: In deference to the concerns raised by James Forrester, Markus and I have decided not to back out the REL1_24 branch. Will you be creating the REL1_24 branches for extensions and skins, or would you

Re: [Wikitech-l] Backing out REL1_24

2014-09-27 Thread Mark A. Hershberger
m...@nichework.com (Mark A. Hershberger) writes: Legoktm legoktm.wikipe...@gmail.com writes: On 9/22/14 1:10 PM, Mark A. Hershberger wrote: In deference to the concerns raised by James Forrester, Markus and I have decided not to back out the REL1_24 branch. Will you be creating the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Backing out REL1_24

2014-09-26 Thread Legoktm
On 9/22/14 1:10 PM, Mark A. Hershberger wrote: In deference to the concerns raised by James Forrester, Markus and I have decided not to back out the REL1_24 branch. Will you be creating the REL1_24 branches for extensions and skins, or would you like me to do that? -- Legoktm

Re: [Wikitech-l] Backing out REL1_24

2014-09-22 Thread Bartosz DziewoƄski
How are you going to ensure that none of the changes that were already merged on REL1_24 branch will be lost, and that none of the changes merged on master that weren't meant for 1.24 will be included, and that all of the changes merged on master will still be kept on master after the new

Re: [Wikitech-l] Backing out REL1_24

2014-09-22 Thread Isarra Yos
On 21/09/14 22:41, Markus Glaser wrote: Hi Isarra, Why is this ahead of schedule? Two months before release seems pretty reasonable to me; ... You don't want to rush this stuff, especially when balancing with breaking changes in the next release. It's ahead of the planned release schedule

Re: [Wikitech-l] Backing out REL1_24

2014-09-22 Thread Mark A. Hershberger
In deference to the concerns raised by James Forrester, Markus and I have decided not to back out the REL1_24 branch. Less than 80 hours have passed since the branch was made, so there hasn't been time to make any major technical changes in the code base. That leaves the social concerns that

Re: [Wikitech-l] Backing out REL1_24

2014-09-22 Thread James Forrester
On 22 September 2014 13:10, Mark A. Hershberger m...@nichework.com wrote: In deference to the concerns raised by James Forrester, Markus and I have decided not to back out the REL1_24 branch. Less than 80 hours have passed since the branch was made, so there hasn't been time to make any

[Wikitech-l] Backing out REL1_24

2014-09-21 Thread Mark A . Hershberger
Dear Wikitech-l REL1_24 was branched and announced ahead of schedule[0]. Our schedule[1] clearly states that we will announce a branch one week before we make one in order to allow developers to put any necessary work into the branch and keep backports to a minimum. The current release is

Re: [Wikitech-l] Backing out REL1_24

2014-09-21 Thread Isarra Yos
On 21/09/14 20:42, Mark A. Hershberger wrote: Dear Wikitech-l REL1_24 was branched and announced ahead of schedule[0]. Our schedule[1] clearly states that we will announce a branch one week before we make one in order to allow developers to put any necessary work into the branch and keep

Re: [Wikitech-l] Backing out REL1_24

2014-09-21 Thread Markus Glaser
Hi Isarra, Why is this ahead of schedule? Two months before release seems pretty reasonable to me; You don't want to rush this stuff, especially when balancing with breaking changes in the next release. It's ahead of the planned release schedule [1] by a few weeks. The real issues is,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Backing out REL1_24

2014-09-21 Thread Legoktm
Hi, On 9/21/14, 1:42 PM, Mark A. Hershberger wrote: Dear Wikitech-l REL1_24 was branched and announced ahead of schedule[0]. Our schedule[1] clearly states that we will announce a branch one week before we make one in order to allow developers to put any necessary work into the branch

Re: [Wikitech-l] Backing out REL1_24

2014-09-21 Thread James Forrester
On 21 September 2014 20:08, Legoktm legoktm.wikipe...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, On 9/21/14, 1:42 PM, Mark A. Hershberger wrote: Dear Wikitech-l REL1_24 was branched and announced ahead of schedule[0]. Our schedule[1] clearly states that we will announce a branch one week before we make

Re: [Wikitech-l] Backing out REL1_24

2014-09-21 Thread Rob Lanphier
On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 3:41 PM, Markus Glaser gla...@hallowelt.biz wrote: Let me be clear about one thing: this is a matter of unclear responsibilites. I'm not blaming anyone personally for what they did. Let's clarify the process (maybe here on this list) and make _better_ mistakes tomorrow