Re: [Wikitech-l] Code of Conduct committee meeting at Wikimania
+1 on the thanks for the update. I have some ideas regarding modifications that I would like to propose to the CoC but I am already stretched among too many tasks, so I am holding these proposals. I do not want anarchy in technical spaces, and in general I think that having some version of a code of conduct is good. I am not sure whether Fae is referring to the chronological age of the Committee as an organization or to the ages of its human members, though I think that Fae is referring to the former. Regarding the latter, I'll make a few comments. I am not very concerned regarding the chronological age of committee members provided that they have reached the age of majority in their relevant countries. I am more interested in language skills, publicly reviewable experience and training in dispute resolution, understanding of Wikimedia technical processes, emotional temperaments, listening skills, reading comprehension, writing skills, research skills, demonstrated willingness to make unpopular decisions (unpopular with WMF and/or unpopular with a significant minority of community members), and degrees of affiliation with WMF and the community. Onward, Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) On Thu, Aug 29, 2019, 14:04 Fæ wrote: > Thanks for the update. It's great to see the CoC processes improving > transparency and potentially accountability to the community. > > It's worth noting how old the discussions are, with comments dating > back more than a year ago, especially in the context of how relatively > young the committee and the CoC is. Perhaps the members can discuss > with each other how improvements can be implemented and iterated more > manageably? > > Thanks, > Fae > > On Thu, 29 Aug 2019 at 21:25, Amir Sarabadani wrote: > > > > Hello, > > The CoC committee had a meeting with four members out of five (Lucie, > Tony, > > Tonina, and Amir were at Wikimania and MusikAnimal wasn't present). These > > notes are the public outcomes of the meeting. > > > > * The committee chose Amir as the chair (Amir requested to be the table > but > > it got rejected) > > * The committee is currently composing the anonymized report of its cases > > and will be published soon. > > * The committee soon will decide on the two amendments currently under > > discussion. Feel free to comment on these two: > > ** Public logging of bans: > > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:Uikcu1emvmw6e4z8 > > ** Modifications on the appeal process: > > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:Uay0vz6no8ayac3m > > * The committee is willing to introduce a new internal role which for > lack > > of better term, we call it secretary for now. The role's main > > responsibility is to help the committee on organizational bookkeeping. > Like > > reports, documentation of cases, etc. > > * At the end, the committee wants to remind people that its role is > > reactionary and we won't interfere when there's no report. If you see a > > behaviour you find unacceptable, stand up and send us a report and don't > > wait for the committee to jump in. > > > > Regards, > > Amir on behalf of the committee > > ___ > > Wikitech-l mailing list > > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > > > > -- > fae...@gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae > Personal and confidential, please do not circulate or re-quote. > > ___ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Code of Conduct committee meeting at Wikimania
Thanks for the update. It's great to see the CoC processes improving transparency and potentially accountability to the community. It's worth noting how old the discussions are, with comments dating back more than a year ago, especially in the context of how relatively young the committee and the CoC is. Perhaps the members can discuss with each other how improvements can be implemented and iterated more manageably? Thanks, Fae On Thu, 29 Aug 2019 at 21:25, Amir Sarabadani wrote: > > Hello, > The CoC committee had a meeting with four members out of five (Lucie, Tony, > Tonina, and Amir were at Wikimania and MusikAnimal wasn't present). These > notes are the public outcomes of the meeting. > > * The committee chose Amir as the chair (Amir requested to be the table but > it got rejected) > * The committee is currently composing the anonymized report of its cases > and will be published soon. > * The committee soon will decide on the two amendments currently under > discussion. Feel free to comment on these two: > ** Public logging of bans: > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:Uikcu1emvmw6e4z8 > ** Modifications on the appeal process: > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:Uay0vz6no8ayac3m > * The committee is willing to introduce a new internal role which for lack > of better term, we call it secretary for now. The role's main > responsibility is to help the committee on organizational bookkeeping. Like > reports, documentation of cases, etc. > * At the end, the committee wants to remind people that its role is > reactionary and we won't interfere when there's no report. If you see a > behaviour you find unacceptable, stand up and send us a report and don't > wait for the committee to jump in. > > Regards, > Amir on behalf of the committee > ___ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- fae...@gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae Personal and confidential, please do not circulate or re-quote. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
[Wikitech-l] Code of Conduct committee meeting at Wikimania
Hello, The CoC committee had a meeting with four members out of five (Lucie, Tony, Tonina, and Amir were at Wikimania and MusikAnimal wasn't present). These notes are the public outcomes of the meeting. * The committee chose Amir as the chair (Amir requested to be the table but it got rejected) * The committee is currently composing the anonymized report of its cases and will be published soon. * The committee soon will decide on the two amendments currently under discussion. Feel free to comment on these two: ** Public logging of bans: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:Uikcu1emvmw6e4z8 ** Modifications on the appeal process: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:Uay0vz6no8ayac3m * The committee is willing to introduce a new internal role which for lack of better term, we call it secretary for now. The role's main responsibility is to help the committee on organizational bookkeeping. Like reports, documentation of cases, etc. * At the end, the committee wants to remind people that its role is reactionary and we won't interfere when there's no report. If you see a behaviour you find unacceptable, stand up and send us a report and don't wait for the committee to jump in. Regards, Amir on behalf of the committee ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
