Re: [Wikitech-l] Inline bug report history in Bugzilla
On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 3:14 AM, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 1:26 AM, Željko Filipin zfili...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 2:05 AM, Isarra Yos zhoris...@gmail.com wrote: So yeah, helpful for the majority, I'd say. +1 I guess I'm in the minority then. That's really cluttered and gives me no useful information. Glad there's a way to turn it back off :D -Chad +2 ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Inline bug report history in Bugzilla
On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 2:05 AM, Isarra Yos zhoris...@gmail.com wrote: So yeah, helpful for the majority, I'd say. +1 Željko ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Inline bug report history in Bugzilla
On Fri, 2013-10-11 at 16:44 -0700, Quim Gil wrote: On 10/11/2013 03:37 PM, Andre Klapper wrote: I failed to make up my mind if it's helpful for the *majority* of Bugzilla users (reporters, testers, triagers, developers, managers) or if it might clutter the Comments view too much for some people, so I kept it as an opt-in setting. I'm happy to revise but don't know how I could find out. :) I think it's useful for some and instructive for the rest. Thanks everybody for the helpful feedback. Inline history functionality is enabled by default now for every user who is logged into Bugzilla. Bugzilla users can switch it off again by setting When viewing a bug, show all bug activity to Off on https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=settings Cheers, andre -- Andre Klapper | Wikimedia Bugwrangler http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/ ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Inline bug report history in Bugzilla
On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 1:26 AM, Željko Filipin zfili...@wikimedia.orgwrote: On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 2:05 AM, Isarra Yos zhoris...@gmail.com wrote: So yeah, helpful for the majority, I'd say. +1 I guess I'm in the minority then. That's really cluttered and gives me no useful information. Glad there's a way to turn it back off :D -Chad ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Inline bug report history in Bugzilla
On 30 September 2013 16:01, Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org wrote: if you have found yourself clicking the History link in Bugzilla tickets way too often (to check who has set the Priority, or who has changed the assignee and when), Bugzilla now has an opt-in to display such metadata changes inline, between the comments of the bug report. This is the BEST THING EVER, something I've wished was in Bugzillas for ages and had no idea it was a config option away. Thank you! - d. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Inline bug report history in Bugzilla
On 10/11/2013 03:37 PM, Andre Klapper wrote: I failed to make up my mind if it's helpful for the *majority* of Bugzilla users (reporters, testers, triagers, developers, managers) or if it might clutter the Comments view too much for some people, so I kept it as an opt-in setting. I'm happy to revise but don't know how I could find out. :) No idea about performance, but about the UI: I think it's useful for some and instructive for the rest. In the times of Twitter, Facebook, Tumblr etc people are quite used to navigate through these boxes. I mean, the ones surviving the upper part of a Bugzilla page with all those form fields. ;) -- Quim Gil Technical Contributor Coordinator @ Wikimedia Foundation http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Qgil ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Inline bug report history in Bugzilla
On 11/10/13 23:37, Andre Klapper wrote: Hi, sorry for my late answer. On Mon, 2013-09-30 at 08:47 -0700, James Forrester wrote: This is brilliant, and makes Bugzilla hugely more usable; could it be switched on for all users by default, or would that impair the server operation too much? I failed to make up my mind if it's helpful for the *majority* of Bugzilla users (reporters, testers, triagers, developers, managers) or if it might clutter the Comments view too much for some people, so I kept it as an opt-in setting. I'm happy to revise but don't know how I could find out. :) Same for how much it affects performance. However, the code has a threshold to not display changes inline for a bug report if there are more than 500 changes to the report. andre Definitely something that should be visible to everyone; without it, users are completely dependent on people saying what they've done in their comments to understand what's going on, and people often don't do that. So someone might only say why they did something without saying what it is (and why should they have to?), or change something without commenting at all, sometimes causing the change to go unnoticed entirely (even when it's important) or causing previous/subsequent comments to not make sense because of the missing context... If it is cluttering things, there's also a good chance there's something problematic going on with the bug anyhow, so people should see that so they can address it. So yeah, helpful for the majority, I'd say. -I ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Inline bug report history in Bugzilla
On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 5:35 AM, Isarra Yos zhoris...@gmail.com wrote: Definitely something that should be visible to everyone; without it, users are completely dependent on people saying what they've done in their comments to understand what's going on, and people often don't do that. So someone might only say why they did something without saying what it is (and why should they have to?), or change something without commenting at all, sometimes causing the change to go unnoticed entirely (even when it's important) or causing previous/subsequent comments to not make sense because of the missing context... If it is cluttering things, there's also a good chance there's something problematic going on with the bug anyhow, so people should see that so they can address it. So yeah, helpful for the majority, I'd say. +1 to Isarra -- Yuvi Panda T http://yuvi.in/blog ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
[Wikitech-l] Inline bug report history in Bugzilla
Hola, if you have found yourself clicking the History link in Bugzilla tickets way too often (to check who has set the Priority, or who has changed the assignee and when), Bugzilla now has an opt-in to display such metadata changes inline, between the comments of the bug report. You can enable this by going to https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=settings and setting When viewing a bug, show all bug activity to On. Cheers, andre -- Andre Klapper | Wikimedia Bugwrangler http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/ ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Inline bug report history in Bugzilla
wh nice feature On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 5:01 PM, Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hola, if you have found yourself clicking the History link in Bugzilla tickets way too often (to check who has set the Priority, or who has changed the assignee and when), Bugzilla now has an opt-in to display such metadata changes inline, between the comments of the bug report. You can enable this by going to https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=settings and setting When viewing a bug, show all bug activity to On. Cheers, andre -- Andre Klapper | Wikimedia Bugwrangler http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/ ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Inline bug report history in Bugzilla
Andre, This is brilliant, and makes Bugzilla hugely more usable; could it be switched on for all users by default, or would that impair the server operation too much? J. On 30 September 2013 08:01, Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hola, if you have found yourself clicking the History link in Bugzilla tickets way too often (to check who has set the Priority, or who has changed the assignee and when), Bugzilla now has an opt-in to display such metadata changes inline, between the comments of the bug report. You can enable this by going to https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=settings and setting When viewing a bug, show all bug activity to On. Cheers, andre -- Andre Klapper | Wikimedia Bugwrangler http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/ ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- James D. Forrester Product Manager, VisualEditor Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. jforres...@wikimedia.org | @jdforrester ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
